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Hyori 421 reads
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Kindustry people know my real ID. Being anonymous protects me from being beaten up and gives me the freedom to help you guys cut through all the BS from the morons out there who spread info they have no real knowledge of.

Think of me as your guardian angel:-)

rocboy781 reads

I am new here so please excuse me and my post if I am not adhering to the unwritten and understood rules and etiquettes of this message board....(seems like a lot of newbies get flamed on).  

I was wondering if anyone has ever used a K-girl as a reference for another non-K-girl provider (providers outside of the K-girl network).  From my short experience, k-girl bookers are difficult to get a response from if your number is not recognized, therefore I'm assuming it would be difficult for the non k-girl provider to verify my reference.

And for those who are trying to get into the K-girl scene......if i can do it, you can do it.

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BigPapasan620 reads

...anyone outside the circle?  According to the usual K-girl posters, you should avoid non K-girls and independents at all costs and stay within the K-cocoon.  Of course, if you're having trouble reaching the high pedestal these guys put the K-girls on, :-) , then you should experience the many flavors that are out there.

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Beemer310528 reads

As it stands, by his reviews he has only seen two so far. He has yet to see the likes of Kami, Hosi, Amber, Frida, Boa, Lita and Sexy Lohan.

The "high pedestal" that the girls are on is well deserved compared to SOME of the non k girls and independents that I have been PM'd about.

And your question is my question as well...why would he?


Beemer

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General Colon Bowel383 reads

A few years ago I tired numerous times to get my favorite booker to give me a reference for a non-k hooker.  It never happened and never will.

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hott_brie358 reads

I'm curious to know what is so special about the K-girls.  I'm a little naive to the whole k-girl scene.  I mean as compared to other independent providers, what is the difference.  Is it price?  Service? or something else.  Can you be specific about the service or price or is that not tolerated in an open forum?  Maybe this knowledge can help me step my game up in terms of providing better service, price, what have you.

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Harpman60331 reads


Don't you think you are too long in the tooth for this ? Check your previous posts.
It is not  worth neither the time or effort but even if we were to tell you it won't matter a bit because they will still eat you lunch and dinner. Give it a rest, I am sure business will pick up. 

Posted By: hott_brie
I'm curious to know what is so special about the K-girls.  I'm a little naive to the whole k-girl scene.  I mean as compared to other independent providers, what is the difference.  Is it price?  Service? or something else.  Can you be specific about the service or price or is that not tolerated in an open forum?  Maybe this knowledge can help me step my game up in terms of providing better service, price, what have you.

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hott_brie275 reads

First off, I want to thank Roger for his post to help clear things up a bit.  It was very helpful in understanding what the differences in service, price, etc. are.  It gives me some ideas of what to do or what not to do during my sessions.  Glad you could help.  

Harpman, my business is just fine, and it has nothing to do with k-girls.  I don't have anything against the k-girls.  I just asked a simple question just to see what if anything I could do differently during my sessions.  Now that I've been told, they definitely would have a hard time "eating me for lunch and dinner" as you said.  There is no need to be so hateful and negative.  If you prefer k-girls, that's fine.  I never said that I had anything against them unless they are here illegally.  But then, I have issues with ANYONE who comes to this country illegally.  That's a whole other political issue that I don't want to get into.



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Rodgerdaily294 reads

Price is listed on cvibe. Its about half the rate of similarly priced indie or other girls. Granted, sometimes you see an indie asian for higher prices and sometimes other ethnicities for similar prices to the kgirl averages.

Service, even with kgirls there is some ymmv, but typically its their attitude that from the moment you enter the door they are focused on you and making you comfortable and happy.  Some guys take advantage of their wanting to please nature and try to manipulate the girls to do things they dont want, which is a shame, and causes some girls to leave and not return.  I thnk for most of us, we show the girls respect by going with the flow and accepting their boundaeries, and not overstaying our allotted time.

In turn the girls will usually get in the shower and wash us and we are allowed to caress and play with them. They are always clean looking and smell nice everywhere.  Some guys really enjoy the rimming they recieve, it appears to be a standard LA kgirl item that i'm not into, but if you read the reviews you'll see a lot of guys complement if they get it, and complain if they dont.  A client can usually expect any kind of sexual fantasy except bbfs and greek.  And multiple orgasms as long as it fits within the time allotment.

At the end, the girl is gentle in removing the bag and cleans the gentleman with a nice clean warm cloth.  This is something I think a lot of american born providers could do to improve their services. My experiences with the home grown women are that when the deed is done they hand you a couple tissues and leave you to clean after yourself (actually thats more like gfe in real life). So the kgirl offers a gfe+ experience as she also helps dreas you and put your shoes on.  She pampers the gentleman.

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rocboy251 reads

I made another post answering your question.  On a side note....you are correct, I haven't seen or attempted to see any of the 'all stars' you mentioned yet.  (actually I take that back....when I first attempted just like everyone else....I got the door slammed in my face)  I'm just glad that I at least have a shot at seeing them in the future now.  =)

Posted By: Beemer310
As it stands, by his reviews he has only seen two so far. He has yet to see the likes of Kami, Hosi, Amber, Frida, Boa, Lita and Sexy Lohan.

The "high pedestal" that the girls are on is well deserved compared to SOME of the non k girls and independents that I have been PM'd about.

And your question is my question as well...why would he?


Beemer

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UripHiga207 reads

Well this is clearly the place I need to find help or guidance, I opened another thread but is not posting so I hope this posts faster.
I have been in the industry for a very long time, I been an "ON & OFF" member of TER since 2005. Tried to make an appt with Nuri and for the first time in so many years I did not pass screening.
I saw Nuru Nadia last week but she is not in the K network.
I am requesting here some guidance of where to start because it seems that the long TDL I have is all connected.
Thanks in advance

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Harpman60441 reads

Big Papa :
I have no doubt your comments are meant in good faith & humor . Some  of us love women period, but we have been burned once too many time  by the natives who are sometimes too old , use fake ads,have  bad attitude, too many rules , inadequate service , B&S, ROB, some have pimps and thugs, do not return emails or calls in a timely fashion, lack in hygienes ,  overpriced etc etc. We go were we are welcome and our $$ appreciated.

Very simple indeed , you may want to try it sometime,  you too may never turn back.  

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KGirlCrazy432 reads

no one is giving a straight answer to your very reasonable question.

K-bookers generally will not provide references to non-k bookers or non-k providers. That's just how they do business. They rarely communicate with anyone outside their network. It's an important way that they protect themselves. Anyone calling from an unrecognized phone number asking for a reference will most likely be ignored by any careful k-booker.

If you are looking to see an indy provider, it is best to use an indy reference. As they say, oil and water just don't mix.  :)

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Harpman60329 reads

Very accurate ,articulate and to the point.  

Posted By: KGirlCrazy
no one is giving a straight answer to your very reasonable question.

K-bookers generally will not provide references to non-k bookers or non-k providers. That's just how they do business. They rarely communicate with anyone outside their network. It's an important way that they protect themselves. Anyone calling from an unrecognized phone number asking for a reference will most likely be ignored by any careful k-booker.

If you are looking to see an indy provider, it is best to use an indy reference. As they say, oil and water just don't mix.  :)

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Rodgerdaily268 reads

To be fair I am not able to get thai groups in phx to verify me to a white group ( they were doing competitive pricing).  The white group was established enough.

I also couldnt use my LA references for other koreans in a different state.  I think many indies and groups operate the same way. Unless you have a good repore with the booker, then ask if they will verify for you.

I broke into the LA scene because I was on very good terms with a non korean who was acceptable to the booker I spoke with.

Bottom line, its business. The better your connections and "relationships", the more doors open up for you.

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Hyori331 reads

So just call and ask the kbooker if ok.  It worked for me so should work for you.

If you were a regular with a booker then no problem but at your newbie status you will need to make some calls..

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Hyori422 reads

Kindustry people know my real ID. Being anonymous protects me from being beaten up and gives me the freedom to help you guys cut through all the BS from the morons out there who spread info they have no real knowledge of.

Think of me as your guardian angel:-)

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Harpman60229 reads

The only drama is of the pretentious kind and you are it's origin. Besides ,  if you think it would protect you from those you slander and stop you what  you are due you are mistaken , there is a day of reckoning. I suggest that you stop ingesting whatever it is   you are inhaling and get your head out  from cloud cuckoo land. Your paranoia and  feeling self importance in nothing  more than a figment of you imagination,so still no $1200 red Alex McQ shirt. Talking about morons , what a Randy scouse git...  

Posted By: Hyori
Kindustry people know my real ID. Being anonymous protects me from being beaten up and gives me the freedom to help you guys cut through all the BS from the morons out there who spread info they have no real knowledge of.

Think of me as your guardian angel:-)

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mqueensland186 reads

Why would you get beaten up?  What exactly have you done to warrant that kind of behavior?  Confused...

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Beemer310196 reads

Now you have to wonder why he is afraid of getting beat up. He either got someone angry at him or he treats the girls badly and doesn't want his ID known because of that.. Why else would "kindustry" people want to beat him up..as he claims

It certainly isnt through the useless info he gives out on the boards. Once again Hyori does it again....or as harpman said, his fertile imagination is working again..too bad you can use only one alias now huh?

Keep at it buddy...you just don't know what you are getting yourself into.

-- Modified on 4/12/2012 8:01:03 AM

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Harpman60171 reads

You hit a home run with your conclusions. If he writes about his fallacies as if they are real , he would be  put on the BL at a stroke, and give him time , he may still end up there. You  should have dedicated your review of AMBER to him, on second thoughts maybe that is not such a good idea given that she has reportedly jilted him.

Posted By: Beemer310
Now you have to wonder why he is afraid of getting beat up. He either got someone angry at him or he treats the girls badly and doesn't want his ID known because of that.. Why else would "kindustry" people want to beat him up..as he claims

It certainly isnt through the useless info he gives out on the boards. Once again Hyori does it again....or as harpman said, his fertile imagination is working again..too bad you can use only one alias now huh?

Keep at it buddy...you just don't know what you are getting yourself into.

-- Modified on 4/12/2012 8:01:03 AM

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rocboy278 reads

FYI.....I only read a few of the responses near the top of my post so if my post seems incomplete or inadequate for everyones needs....my bad.  

I had a feeling most people would wonder why anyone would want to venture outside of the k girl scene.....the main reason is because I want to see this one provider.  I don't want to rub the bookers that I am kewl with in the wrong way since I am new.  I get the feeling that if I create even the slightest inconvenience to them, I might be BL.  I know what I have is golden and that's why I asked this question......don't want to lose my privileges with the k-girl scene for 1 non k-girl provider.  

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KGirlCrazy169 reads

And I feel the same way about it. That's why I keep the k-world contacts separate from the indy contacts. You just never know what is going to upset people. Some indys seem to hate the k-girls. And I would imagine some of the k-bookers aren't too fond of their indy critics. For me, that's good enough reason to keep them separate.

Screening by indy girls generally isn't as strict.  If you are willing to give up some personal info, such as real name, work, etc., then you should be able to see any number of indy girls without a reference.  Then you'll have a good indy reference and you can see anyone else you like.

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mqueensland173 reads

I would say indy girl screening is way more strict! I would never give out my work place to any provider.  My phone number, profession and name are enough.  That's all I've ever given the K-girl bookers.  But then, I did get in early so maybe I was subject to lower screening standards and don't have much of a problem now that I'm established. :-)

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Harpman60215 reads

I have said this before and i'll repeat it. In this hobby there is nothing more reckless , other than taking extreme risks with health, than providing personal information beyond a name , tel # and previous providers , although I am not averse to showing photo ID . Filling online forms at a providers site or joining one of the referral services is like holding a time bomb that can blow up at anytime - for me  the provider who is worth such a risk has not yet been boor. Irrespective of assurances any info submitted online can come back not just to haunt you but destroy your life. If you have doubt check the [website-removed-by-admin] were guys are outed for the stupidest excuse by our of control and vindictive providers who abuse a what is meant to keep them and their peers safe from potential predators.      

Posted By: mqueensland
I would say indy girl screening is way more strict! I would never give out my work place to any provider.  My phone number, profession and name are enough.  That's all I've ever given the K-girl bookers.  But then, I did get in early so maybe I was subject to lower screening standards and don't have much of a problem now that I'm established. :-)

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KGirlCrazy180 reads

I gave that info once, years ago, so I could get my first reference, and I've never had to do it again. For me, it was worth it to quickly get a foot in the door. For others, it might not be. It's an individual choice that everyone has to make for themselves.

And I don't work at that company anymore, so I don't give a shit if they find out. I'm also pretty sure there are a bunch of guys at that company who are just as active in the hobby, if not more so, than I am!  :)

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KGirlCrazy188 reads

way more strict? I don't think so. K-bookers will only take a reference from other k-bookers or k-providers. Indys will generally take a reference from any established provider. I've even had some indys approve me simply through the TER white list, with no other references required.

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Harpman60212 reads

While that is generally the rule with K-bookers it is not always the case , you only have to see the growing legions of K-doll patrons to know that there are considerable exceptions to the rule-it takes time and patience that are sooner than later rewarded.

Posted By: KGirlCrazy
way more strict? I don't think so. K-bookers will only take a reference from other k-bookers or k-providers. Indys will generally take a reference from any established provider. I've even had some indys approve me simply through the TER white list, with no other references required.

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