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I really have no idea how anyone can say torture or EI doesn't work.
JackDunphy 190 reads
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Human beings react to different stimuli. Some are motivated and repond well to positive reinforcement, some won't. Some will give up accurate info in a heart beat when pressured/tortured, others won't give up shit. To make blanket statements like "torture doesnt work" is either knee jerk political in nature or a fundamental lack of understanding the human race.

Alan Dershowitz has commented on this on numerous occasions and lists many examples of torture working in history. He said the French Resistance gave up friends and family at the hands of the Nazis and that the British Navy would torture German captured submariners who gave them accurate info on account of it.

Now we don't want some PFC in the army haphazardly torturing anyone on the battle field. It should be done by professionals from a direct order from the POTUS in only the rarest of cases, with court approval, if there is time.

If there is not enough time for judicial review, then the POTUS should make his case to the American people after the fact, and it then becomes a political matter and a potential ground for impeachment.  

There was virtually zero interest from Obama Inc to go after Bush. I mean how could they when Obama's own people and other Dem appointees were telling him it works??

bigguy301335 reads

CIA Director John Brennan told NBC News in an exclusive interview that his agency will not engage in harsh "enhanced interrogation" practices, including waterboarding, which critics call torture — even if ordered to by a future president.

"I will not agree to carry out some of these tactics and techniques I've heard bandied about because this institution needs to endure," Brennan said.

In the "ticking time bomb" scenario, they will water board because they know it has, and can, work.

bigguy30220 reads

Posted By: JackDunphy
In the "ticking time bomb" scenario, they will water board because they know it has, and can, work.

as a device to obtain information.  

         The extent to which waterboarding, or other forms of torture  “work,” depends on the subject and the degree of pain inflicted. So it is ridiculous to say that “waterboarding doesn’t work” as a blanket statement. But what we need to do is to make torture “legal” – or subject to standards - in the ticking bomb type of case where the government meets a very igh standard that the suspect has critical information, rather than Bush admin' s preference that the CIA engage in a fishing expedition and do it secretly and illegally a la the Bush CIA

bigguy30254 reads

Posted By: JackDunphy
In the "ticking time bomb" scenario, they will water board because they know it has, and can, work.

brooks5157 reads

even the lib creators of the flick agreed that waterboarding led directly to finding Bin Laden.  it REALLY pissed Obama since he gave his pals access to classified info to make the film - remember?

Obama is secretly glad they made KSM and his 2 pals sniff a bit of Perrier

Obama now just blows them up without gaining valuable humint.  he might release more from GITMO than he kills

at the time Brennan was part of the waterboarding brigade himself

libs need to wake the fuck up and smell the cordite

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stucaboy281 reads

Ask anyone who has gone throught survival training. It is mainly used by the boy scouts and some college frat houses.
Real torture takes place outside our boarders in "Black-States".

Posted By: bigguy30
CIA Director John Brennan told NBC News in an exclusive interview that his agency will not engage in harsh "enhanced interrogation" practices, including waterboarding, which critics call torture — even if ordered to by a future president.  
   
 "I will not agree to carry out some of these tactics and techniques I've heard bandied about because this institution needs to endure," Brennan said.

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