Politics and Religion

I think many people repeat lies so often they start to believe their own rhetoric
GaGambler 297 reads
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and I certainly agree, it's one thing to lie to the world, it's quite another to lie to yourself.

Yes, we all have our own built in biases, even if some of them are learned and not innate.

Take this board for example, I am willing to bet you are ready to call bullshit on any link posted by the likes of nuguy or FollowMe without even opening them. That's a bias, but it's a learned bias, something you didn't start off believing, but after a couple of hundred posts, all right wing propaganda, that's just what you expect from those posters. The same holds true for all of us, if I see a link posted by the likes of FG or Laffy, I automatically assume it will be "more of the same" from those guys. So I suppose I am guilty of this as well

pot/kettle320 reads

Simply put, Fox News has reached the heights that it has thanks to all the attention brought to it by its so-called enemies.  You libs can't stop talking about Fox News.  If you ignored it, like we conservatives ignore MSNBC, Fox News' ratings would surely take a hit.

But, you're not smart enough to do that . . . .

providing a service that keeps it's viewers well-informed! Seems you need a new knee-jerk response!  ;)

The best bet is to get your news from different sources and from different political persuasions.

Every major network, website, newspaper, etc has a liberal or conservative bent.

Getting views from both sides before an opinion is fully formed seems to be the best avenue to take if one ever desires to get to the truth of any given issue.

"Getting views from both sides before an opinion is fully formed seems to be the best avenue to take if one ever desires to get to the truth of any given issue." That, and not feeling compelled to have an opinion based only on what was focused on during the latest news cycle regarding the issue.

GaGambler302 reads

How many people here, from either side of the aisle, do you really think cares that much about the truth before leaping to a conclusion based on their own political predispositions and or biases

most people are looking for evidence to support what they believe already!  ;)

But, as Dostoyevsky points out, the origins of such behavior begin with self-deception and self-delusion.

 “Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.”
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

I guess this means the degree to which we reduce our self-deceptions and self-delusions determine the degree to which we seek truth on it's own terms, whether from the inside, or from the outside.  ;)

GaGambler298 reads

and I certainly agree, it's one thing to lie to the world, it's quite another to lie to yourself.

Yes, we all have our own built in biases, even if some of them are learned and not innate.

Take this board for example, I am willing to bet you are ready to call bullshit on any link posted by the likes of nuguy or FollowMe without even opening them. That's a bias, but it's a learned bias, something you didn't start off believing, but after a couple of hundred posts, all right wing propaganda, that's just what you expect from those posters. The same holds true for all of us, if I see a link posted by the likes of FG or Laffy, I automatically assume it will be "more of the same" from those guys. So I suppose I am guilty of this as well

pot/kettle323 reads

thanks all those libs who tune in just to get pissed off . . . .   ;-)

 

Posted By: mattradd
providing a service that keeps it's viewers well-informed! Seems you need a new knee-jerk response!  ;)

Roger Ailes cares about. I know I don't! You seem to!  ;)

how do you figure that Fox is “hurting” the Republican Party, much less “destroying” it as that silly  article asserts?

      I’d say Fox helps the GOP by animating its base and we see this in election results. Fox also provides a safe haven where Republicans can give interviews without facing the obvious tough questions real journalists would ask. Remember all the times the opinion hosts  interviewed Governor Perry and accepted his claim that his indictment was a “political indictment”?  Sorry no Democrats involved. Or how the opinion hosts accepted Ted Cruz’s false statements about Obamacare when they asked about his attempt to shut down the government? Funny how Obamacare cost "millions of jobs" yet those unemployment numbers keep going down.

      Or how about the way the opinion hosts accepted all the Republican talking heads who claimed that the five Gitmo detainees traded for Bergdahl would certainly return to the battlefield and kill Americans, or at least that the Taliban would start kidnapping Americans in huge numbers? (Where are those guys now, you ask? Still in Qatar where they have not hurt a soul. How many Americans were kidnapped? Um, zero as far as I know.  In short, they – and the Board righties who dogmatically adopted their position – were dead wrong. Turned out to be a pretty smart trade, since they were going to be released anyway. Saves a million a year per detainee and we got our guy back).

      So Fox is neither “brainwashing” viewers, nor hurting the GOP. They certainly influence their audience – we can see that right here in the opinions of the Board righties. But the problem is not Fox but the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine without which Fox would not exist in its present form.  This is usually justified by saying that the proliferation of cable channels, in addition to broadcast channels, make the Fairness Doctrine obsolete.

       But at some point Fox’s viewership numbers may get high enough that we need to take another look at this

Get back to me on that.  

To give you an idea, the major networks have about 35 million viewers at any given time and Fox has 3-4 million during OReilly so if anybody has a beef with the media, it's the Repubs.

It is funny though how much of a hardon libs have about Fox. I guess you would want ALL the networks to lean Left? Would that help Dem chances in the elections that you acknowledge that R's have dominated the past 6 years?

The Dems are ONE election loss from facing political oblivion and stupid OP's like this one gain traction with some libs here. I'll give you props for not being one of them.

Posted By: marikod
But at some point Fox’s viewership numbers may get high enough that we need to take another look at this.
He should know I don't know what to think each day until I listen to Rush. I'm simply useless until the afternoon.

It IS interesting though how he thinks the First Amendment has some sort of quantitative measurement assigned to it.

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