He reminded me of the great food to be had in Bellaire, I still don't know how a white wine spritzer drinking, round eyed, white boy ever found his way down to that part of town, but the food is great down there, and there are plenty of Vietnamese hotties down there as well.
he NRA held its annual convention in Houston this weekend.
I did not attend this year, and my efforts to have raw sewage pumped into the facility apparently went unnoticed by those in attendance, which is not all that surprising concerning the list of speakers.
NRA vice president I.M. Fulschitt was there to point out that the Boston Marathon lockdown would have been different if everyone in Boston had been armed as he has recommended. NRA celebrity spokesman M.E. Scheissopf reminded the crowd that the government is trying to "take our guns" and that he would "never comply."
Thank god even Fox News canceled him.
And that idiot Ted Nugent was there, even played a few riffs from his one hit "Journey to what is left of my mind."
But the most noteworthy bad idea to come of the convention is the Armed Citizen Project, the brainchild of a young grad student. He has raised money to buy shotguns to distribute to residents of a mid to high crime neighborhood in Houston to prove that having good senior citizens, and single women and mothers, armed with guns is the proper deterrent to career criminals with guns. Supposedly, the newly armed will be given some training and back ground checks.
How did he get liability insurance for this bonehead project, you ask? Well, he'd didn't ,he's going bare.
On the other hand, the grad student is going to keep careful data as to this project, which is a very good thing.
So we will get an actual test of the NRA theory. Will crime go down as Mein, Willy, and others on this Board have predicted? Or will the only person getting buckshot in the rear end be me, the next time I dine at Crawfish and Noodles, along with a few pizza deliverymen and insurance salesmen?
It's a really bad idea, right? Who's with me on this
I am not with you marikod. Liberals make me ill.
By the way. It's not a theory. The best armed neighborhoods of responsible citizens are the safest. When only the criminals are armed and the law abiding citizens disarmed or left defenseless by bureaucrats we can see the results, especially DC and Chicago.
So feel free to cower under a desk or hide under a bed when they come for you or your family. I will protect mine while you scramble to call 911.
down the street in Houston, Panthera12, just remember she has a pump action shotgun next to the milk bottle, so maybe it's best that you don't approach her.
Of course, I recognize that they are going to give her some training, but given that Texas is trying to cut state- approved training for concealed carry permits to 4 hours, how much do you think she will get from this underfunded project? ("This is the trigger. This the barrel. Don't point the barrel toward white people.")
In the meantime, I want you to go back and watch my favorite "Dirty Harry" movie,
where Clint is on the training course trying to shoot cardboard bad guys with his Magnum until he plugs a mother with a baby carriage by mistake.
Yeah i'm sure this is a good idea.
I believe that I stated once before that most people who have these permits have been handling weapons long before these programs started. Most of the programs are essentially useless anyhow. It's like the safe driving courses. Most of it is common sense.
I wouldn't expect you to understand marikod. You are infatuated more with Dirty Harry movies then facts and reality.
So what exactly would marikod advocate? 8 hours? 24 hours? A month?
and just what is a white ambulance chaser like you doing down in Bellair? You do know there used to be a bounty on people with round eyes down there, don't you?
As for the "Armed Citizen Project" I am all for it. The last time I remember a community arming all of it's law abiding citizens was in Homestead back in 1992, when hurricane Andrew came rolling through. Rather than trust their lives and property to LE and a bunch of weekend warriors AKA the national guard, none of which actually had a stake in what was going on, the community of Homestead armed itself, policed its' own streets and was not subject to anywhere near the looting and other crime that typically follows a disater like this.
Hey, if it worked in Florida, (which it did), why not Texas, Maybe some of these gang bangers will think twice before terrorizing this neighborhood when they realize that rather than going to jail where they can be united with all their gang banging hermanos, they are more likely to end up with a load of double odd buckshot in their culos. Who knows, maybe they will try to find easier pickings, like maybe the white suburban neighborhoods, where all the white wine spritzer drinking crowd don't believe in the 2nd amendment and will make for easy pickings? lmao
and please don't tell me you actually have been to Crawfish and Noodles, I know they don't serve white wine spritzers there. lol
Here to deal with the heat.
I would not oppose arming in a hurricane Andrew situation where LE is not around. But Houston is a very different story.
and I ask again, WTF are you doing down in Bellaire? That area is for "Chinks and Dinks" not gimpy old white boys. lol
and if you think their food is hot, you definitely don't want to try my crawfish, I used a paste I make out of Habenero peppers iwth Tabasco sauce as the liquid. It makes cayenne pepper taste like a a sweet bell pepper in comparison.
As for arming in Houston, the fifth ward has looked like a hurricane disaster area for decades. Damn right the citizens should arm themselves to fight back.
Only 1.54 million on the scovil scale. We ordered a bottle one time and I swear it was like someone had tossed a tear gas grenade into the house.
and if you think their food is hot, you definitely don't want to try my crawfish, I used a paste I make out of Habenero peppers iwth Tabasco sauce as the liquid. It makes cayenne pepper taste like a a sweet bell pepper in comparison.
As for arming in Houston, the fifth ward has looked like a hurricane disaster area for decades. Damn right the citizens should arm themselves to fight back.
I actually eat and enjoy the spices that I am talking about, can you honestly say the same?
The only people that I don't have to tone my boil down for so far have been mexicans and Thais. All of the Thai girls I have dated are amazed that I can eat their food without gasping for air.
Keep in mind, I grew up with beaners, so I have had a lifetime to get used to spicy foods. Now are you sure that you want to throw any more chips into the pot?
Looting was big problem in South Florida after Andrew
It was a big problem when the victims were relying on the weekend warrior national guard to keep them safe, but once they armed themselves, looting no longer was a problem in those areas.
but I am not comfortable with the idea of distributing the guns.
Why not use the money to offer fee classes and perhaps just discount the guns. But people should have more skin in the game than just applying for a free firearm, so they take it more seriously...
When I was 18, my dad gave me a car. I wrecked it at 20. The next car I bought with my own money, I valued it a lot more than the previous one.
Palin who said that "Freedom was destroying itself," whatever that means, and Cruz who addressed the crowd as "an army." The more militant the talk from the NRA the more it takes them out of the mainstream, and viewed by more and more people as becoming radicalized. And, the more they rail against Obama taking their guns away, the more they just sound like a part of the Republican party. There are a lot of NRA members who are more moderate than what the NRA leadership is sounding.
As far as the research, I'd be interested in what is found out about each individual gun; if it was used, and how. Was it used to deter a crime, was it used in a commission of a crime or was it use in an accidental shooting. Even if crime does go down in that area, will the researcher be honest enough to factor in other possible explanations for it diminishing? I doubt it, since he's proved he's already biased in his research.
As far as shotguns; it so beats assault rifles or high capacity handguns. You don't hear of too many times where a crime or accident happened with a shotgun. I can imagine that intruders will think twice when trying to enter a home in that area. And, so will estranged, angry boyfriends or husbands. However, it's too early to tell what will happen with those guns in the hands of angry boyfriends or husbands. And, I'm sure it gives the peace officers in that area pause.
who was last seen warning us about death panels. But she was there along with gov perry whose marksmanship is apparently better than his knowledge of fed agencies.
I agree as to arming the citizenry shotguns as opposed to AR 15s but I imagine this was dictated by cost rather than common sense.
who make GOP look party of stupid..
I feel like I have been slimed just listening to Rick Perry speak.
Having Palin on your side of an argument is like having TrannyBoy back you up in a debate, the very fact he agrees with you makes you want to reconsider your position.
is that I fear our fully militarized police forces far more than the occasional criminally minded individual.
One can realistically defend themselves from a criminal; but with the police you can only whimper and bleed while they demonstrate their vigorous and well practiced abuse of police power on you. And did you ever hear of "The Blue Wall"?
Most armed muggers and thieves have a tendency to become violent with
uncooperative , weaker , smaller or elderly prey .
History will change when the thief takes the senior's shotgun away .
Easily led seniors , not accustomed to fire arms in their life , will end
up dead, when they think twice .
Although it will work sometime , it's a risky move .
I vote bad idea arming innocent unarmed seniors , good idea disarming muggers and thieves .
As an attorney protecting the innocent , what's your take on sweeping the streets with non invasive technology , confiscating unauthorized weaponry and prosecuting offenders to the full extent of the law ?
The truth is they'll probably confiscate the guns and release the criminals. There are so many firearms crimes not prosecuted today its dumb to even have the laws on the books. Look into it a bit. 1 in 1000 failed federal background check results in charges, many times felons who applied to buy a gun are never even questioned about their application to purchase.
but I personally feel safer with a firearm in my home. Giving them out to people with little training and little firearms experience is dangerous at best. The threat that any home in america having firearms is a deturrent to home invasions and rapes though. Even the DOJ estimates firearms are used in self defense 1.6 million times yearly. If only 1 in 1000 times that they were used prevented a rape or murder thats still a large number (impossible to prove). If you factor in the fact that most firearms crimes are felons shooting fellow criminals I'm not as concerned about it as you are.
The NRA held its annual convention in Houston this weekend.
I did not attend this year, and my efforts to have raw sewage pumped into the facility apparently went unnoticed by those in attendance, which is not all that surprising concerning the list of speakers.
NRA vice president I.M. Fulschitt was there to point out that the Boston Marathon lockdown would have been different if everyone in Boston had been armed as he has recommended. NRA celebrity spokesman M.E. Scheissopf reminded the crowd that the government is trying to "take our guns" and that he would "never comply."
Thank god even Fox News canceled him.
And that idiot Ted Nugent was there, even played a few riffs from his one hit "Journey to what is left of my mind."
But the most noteworthy bad idea to come of the convention is the Armed Citizen Project, the brainchild of a young grad student. He has raised money to buy shotguns to distribute to residents of a mid to high crime neighborhood in Houston to prove that having good senior citizens, and single women and mothers, armed with guns is the proper deterrent to career criminals with guns. Supposedly, the newly armed will be given some training and back ground checks.
How did he get liability insurance for this bonehead project, you ask? Well, he'd didn't ,he's going bare.
On the other hand, the grad student is going to keep careful data as to this project, which is a very good thing.
So we will get an actual test of the NRA theory. Will crime go down as Mein, Willy, and others on this Board have predicted? Or will the only person getting buckshot in the rear end be me, the next time I dine at Crawfish and Noodles, along with a few pizza deliverymen and insurance salesmen?
It's a really bad idea, right? Who's with me on this?
Mari, how did you find this obscure online source? Do you have it bookmarked? Also, and seriously asking, do you live in a red state or blue state? I know you're anti-gun. I know you like to be a bit sarcastic in your posts. But do you really care if this no-name neighborhood, in Texas no less, arms themselves with shotguns.
Are you worried that somehow this neighborhood arming campaign will catch on and become the norm in your liberal elitist enclave?
Personally mari, I really don't give a shit that some podunk town in Texas decided to take neighborhood watch to a steroid level.
What I'm about to say is going sound a bit strange. See mari, I don't own a gun. I don't want one. I actually acquired a small arsenal as a result of inheritance, but immediately sold them all. But I'm OK with the NRA. Some of their rhetoric is a bit nauseating, as well as some of their members.
To me, the value of the NRA, and their conservative views neutralize the shit on the other side. Just as the left has a disdain and deep hatred for the NRA and Tea Party, there are those on the right that have that same disdain and hatred for various issues that the progressive movement champions.
I'll give you one example. I had a conversation with a couple of liberal feminist women. I told them I was generally supportive of Planned Parenthood, but I also told them of my stance that the govt should not be funding them to the tune of 1/3 of their annual operating budget. Mari, they started foaming at the mouth. For a second I thought Ron Jeremy jacked off from across the room and it hit them in the mouth. They went ballistic. I can't describe the anger and hatred they had for me at that moment. It was white hot hatred.
To me it's an equalizer. I want both extremes to have the same firepower, preferably aimed at each other. Civility and moderation exists, but unfortunately it's been drowned out by the extremes on both sides. So as a result, nothing gets done, which is acceptable to me.
So to answer your question mari, no I'm not with you on this. You'll have to have one less pitchfork.
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of NRA rhetoric. And, yes, we should be concerned that this moronic "solution" to too many guns on the street - more guns on the street - is catching on- in fact, it is moving your way. Tucson is the next city to be armed.
Let's see, what do we think of when we consider our fine senior citizens? They have fading eyesight, they fall down a lot, and they have trouble remembering things like - did I leave the house with the shot gun loaded? You really have no problem with arming these guys?
Nonetheless, I'd like to meet these "liberal feminist women" - as opposed to your liberal feminist male friends - to whom you frequently allude. They wouldn't make me pay for it, right? A very refreshing attitude I must say.
BTW you have till May 15 to win an AR-!5 from the Armed Citizen Project to add to your inherited arsenal. Frankly, with the planned release of Strike Two prisoners in your state, LA may be the one place where this project has some merit.
Are you worried that somehow this neighborhood arming campaign will catch on and become the norm in your liberal elitist enclave?
Personally mari, I really don't give a shit that some podunk town in Texas decided to take neighborhood watch to a steroid level.
What I'm about to say is going sound a bit strange. See mari, I don't own a gun. I don't want one. I actually acquired a small arsenal as a result of inheritance, but immediately sold them all. But I'm OK with the NRA. Some of their rhetoric is a bit nauseating, as well as some of their members.
To me, the value of the NRA, and their conservative views neutralize the shit on the other side. Just as the left has a disdain and deep hatred for the NRA and Tea Party, there are those on the right that have that same disdain and hatred for various issues that the progressive movement champions.
I'll give you one example. I had a conversation with a couple of liberal feminist women. I told them I was generally supportive of Planned Parenthood, but I also told them of my stance that the govt should not be funding them to the tune of 1/3 of their annual operating budget. Mari, they started foaming at the mouth. For a second I thought Ron Jeremy jacked off from across the room and it hit them in the mouth. They went ballistic. I can't describe the anger and hatred they had for me at that moment. It was white hot hatred.
To me it's an equalizer. I want both extremes to have the same firepower, preferably aimed at each other. Civility and moderation exists, but unfortunately it's been drowned out by the extremes on both sides. So as a result, nothing gets done, which is acceptable to me.
So to answer your question mari, no I'm not with you on this. You'll have to have one less pitchfork.
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Why even argue about shotguns? They are legal and they should be and there is no way they should be regulated in any way. Not to mention this entire project is going nowhere anyway. So thanks, mari, for wasting the tiny amount of oxygen on this board.
He reminded me of the great food to be had in Bellaire, I still don't know how a white wine spritzer drinking, round eyed, white boy ever found his way down to that part of town, but the food is great down there, and there are plenty of Vietnamese hotties down there as well.
was steaming but I don't think she was on the menu. And frankly I don't even remember them having a wine list at that place.
The local P4P talent in the area are mainly a mix of Thai and Korean ladies, some of them quite hot I might add, and very reasonable anywhere from $160 in the parlors to $250 in the regular incalls
There are however a slew of Vietnamese night clubs up the street going towards outer loop 8. There are loads of Vietnamese hotties, but you have to get them the old fashioned way, probably unlikely for a gimpy old white guy. and to tell the truth much too much work even for me. I could probably score a different forty year old every night of the week, but that's why I am a whore monger, I don't want to fuck women old enough to be a "first wife"
I don't remember for sure, but I think the wine list at Crawfish and Noodles was "Red or White" and that was about it. Sorry no Krug to be found there.
If you like "real" Chinese food, Bellaire is the place in Houston, there are dozens of good ones all up and down the street. Don't try the Korean food there though, it's a strictly Chinese and Vietnamese part of town, what little Korean food you'll find, sucks from what I have heard.
Areas with high gun ownership and especially carry zones are more crime free than those with restrictive fun laws.
Why are people so ignorant they can't figure out that criminals do not tend to obey the law.
Have discussed many times. Too many factors bear on the issue and you cannot prove causation between low crime and high carry or vice versa.
Hell, the numbers are real easy to interpret. To try to claim there are "outside" factors just because the results go against PC reasoning is just a blatant lie.
That their website cites "studies" showing crime violence is reduced where more citizens are armed.
But the anti-gun sites have "studies" saying just the opposite.
look up "peer reviewed" Snowman and get back to me.
Low income and gun crime do follow, as well as unemployment...
Following last year’s dismal Economic Freedom Report, the CATO Institute’s Richard W. Rahn pointed out that the President is characteristically ignoring the facts and Republicans are also not saying or doing much about reversing the downward trend. The results here aren’t just about slower economic growth and less freedom. There are other consequences to consider like gun violence.
Harry Moroz over at Next American City and Richard Florida of The Atlantic, having both analyzed data provided by the Centers for Disease Control from 2006-2008, came to similar conclusions when looking at the impact of inner cities on gun deaths.
Florida wrote, “…the consistency of our findings across metro and state levels strongly suggest that gun violence is not just the product of troubled or deranged individuals, as is commonly portrayed, but is both associated with and embedded within the economic and social context of places… we find strikingly consistent associations between gun violence and key markers of socio-economic disadvantage — poverty, income, education, class, and race. Of course, center cities bear the heaviest concentrations of such socio-economic disadvantage and we are likely to find even stronger associations and more magnified patterns there, as Moroz does for unemployment.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbasile/2013/02/27/the-best-gun-control-measure-is-always-a-job/