2. She'll want to see recent photos of you before a first date. Send her a few selfies, don't send anything indiscreet.
3. On Date #1, be polite & conservative. She's trying to figure out if you're a pervert or a gentleman.
4. The sole objective of Date #1 is to get to Date #2. A college SB isn't a hooker, she doesn't fuck anonymous strangers. P4P isn't a problem for her, but she's way more selective than a provider. She has to feel comfortable with you first.
5. If she's interested, she'll text you for Date #2. When she does, things will happen really fast. Good luck. --
or those of you who've tried the sugar bowl, that first date with an SB is always unpredictable. To be fair, most of the SBs I've met have been polite & friendly. But there are those "special first dates" where you wonder: what will happen next? Here are a few that have been memorable for me.
Mystery Date: The SB who shows up for a first date doesn't look like her photos. Guys in the hobby are familiar with this scenario. One SB warned me by text that she needed "3 to 4 hours of preparation to look like my photos". I canceled immediately, because I look like my photos all-the-time.
"American Idol Audition" Date: where an SB sings for you during a first date. Incredibly, this has happened *twice*. The first SB sang Adele's "Rolling in the Deep" (SB had a surprisingly lovely voice). The second SB also had a pretty voice, but I wasn't familiar with the song, lol. Note: when an SB does this, she's throwing her panties at you. An arrangement with serious fucking is there if you want it.
Casual Insult Date: when you wish "Triumph the Insult Comic Dog" was by your side. One mildly pretty SB told me, "I've never been with a guy your age, so I'm not sure how this will work". I wanted to reply with "My last SB was much hotter than you, so I'm not sure how this will work either". Instead, I took a last sip of coffee and asked our server for the check.
Kama Sutra Date: where an SB, with zero prompting, describes in great detail her favorite sexual technique. This is usually followed by her angry question, "Why are you laughing, what's so funny?" --
I think she was 34 and I was 48, she mentioned that I was 14 years older than her, I simply replied how old that made HER as I almost never dated anyone not at least 20 years younger than me.
As I am sure you could guess, we didn't date much longer after that. I found a more "age appropriate" woman of about 26. lol
doubt there's any reliable data on age distribution for SBs and providers, since that data would be self-reported. But based on personal experience, SBs are way younger. The average age of P411 providers I've met is around 30. The Backpage girls appear to be younger ( based on their ads), but I don't shop there.
The average SB is at least 10 years younger, close to 20. In the last couple of years, college girls have absolutely taken over my sugar site. College girls will fuck you for cash, it's really astonishing. And for those who think SBs are simply providers: they're definitely P4P, but they're *not* providers in the way an average TER client would think. A college SB wouldn't have a clue if you mentioned the "two call system" or "BBBJ". You would get a blank stare. Here's the text exchange of the first time my college SB met me BCD:
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Z: I'm at the Comfort Inn on Main, Room 221.
SB: Should I go to the front desk and tell them I'm there to see you.
Z: no babe, don't do that. just walk through the lobby, the elevator will be on your left.
SB: won't the hotel people be suspicious?
Z: Absolutely not, people walk in & out of there all the time. They won't care.
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Try to imagine such an exchange with a provider, lol. But getting back to the age thing: for an older guy, it helps if you still have a full head of hair & are in reasonably good shape. I've been lucky there (my guess is you are as well). It's rare that age even comes up. I'm honest about my age & always send an SB recent photos before a first date. --z
I find no shortage of hookers in the 20 something range, but I agree the average TER hooker must be around forty, or so it seems. I have zero interest in fucking forty year old, not even for free, like you I can get all the "cougars" or even MILFs that I want. Horny 40 year olds are everywhere.
As for the woman that pointed out our "age difference" in all fairness she was Asian and didn't look more than about 25, but at the time I could easily pass for mid thirties so I guess she thought I actually was about her age until I told her otherwise, and by "dating" I do mean that I was not paying her, I did meet her as a client, but we started going strictly OTC after I had known her for about a month, but sometimes it really is simpler to just pay, as long as you are paying you don't have to listen to any bullshit, not that I listen to much even when not paying, just saying...
...and as far as I can tell it hasn't affected my ability to find and bed SB's. I'm pretty up front about ( as well as being married and age 56) it so it may have contributed to some of the dates that never happened, but almost every girl says no biggie. I do stay in shape -- that's in my control. So far I'm loving the SB world.
What are the best sugar baby sites
1. Start by messaging a few SBs on your site, offer her $$ for a lunch date. That shows you're not a time-waster.
2. She'll want to see recent photos of you before a first date. Send her a few selfies, don't send anything indiscreet.
3. On Date #1, be polite & conservative. She's trying to figure out if you're a pervert or a gentleman.
4. The sole objective of Date #1 is to get to Date #2. A college SB isn't a hooker, she doesn't fuck anonymous strangers. P4P isn't a problem for her, but she's way more selective than a provider. She has to feel comfortable with you first.
5. If she's interested, she'll text you for Date #2. When she does, things will happen really fast. Good luck. --
What are some good an sites
Be a gentleman
Be well-groomed
Read her profile carefully
Avoid explicit language
Set things up in advance
If you need to cancel, let her know ASAP
Cash in an envelope
The TER FAQ will serve you well in any P4P situation. Your SB will appreciate all of the above. --z
For those of you who've tried the sugar bowl, that first date with an SB is always unpredictable. To be fair, most of the SBs I've met have been polite & friendly. But there are those "special first dates" where you wonder: what will happen next? Here are a few that have been memorable for me.
Mystery Date: The SB who shows up for a first date doesn't look like her photos. Guys in the hobby are familiar with this scenario. One SB warned me by text that she needed "3 to 4 hours of preparation to look like my photos". I canceled immediately, because I look like my photos all-the-time.
"American Idol Audition" Date: where an SB sings for you during a first date. Incredibly, this has happened *twice*. The first SB sang Adele's "Rolling in the Deep" (SB had a surprisingly lovely voice). The second SB also had a pretty voice, but I wasn't familiar with the song, lol. Note: when an SB does this, she's throwing her panties at you. An arrangement with serious fucking is there if you want it.
Casual Insult Date: when you wish "Triumph the Insult Comic Dog" was by your side. One mildly pretty SB told me, "I've never been with a guy your age, so I'm not sure how this will work". I wanted to reply with "My last SB was much hotter than you, so I'm not sure how this will work either". Instead, I took a last sip of coffee and asked our server for the check.
Kama Sutra Date: where an SB, with zero prompting, describes in great detail her favorite sexual technique. This is usually followed by her angry question, "Why are you laughing, what's so funny?" --z
Fair warning to those of you who wish to dabble in the SD/SB field:
In the past couple of years I have seen increasing expose of SDs and SBs on The Dirty . com, which is a vicious gossip websites mostly about nobodies who can not defend themselves. I have seen reports by those SBs who had been wronged by their (allegedly) BS'ing SDs. So Gentlmen, if you are married and high profile, be very very careful as to whom you share your time, $ and bodies with.
For full disclosure purposes, I have had a few stints on sugar sites with good results, but there is a good more deal of leg work involved which is extremely time prohibitive in my case.
PS. To the guy who keeps asking about the "good" SD sites, just use Google for crying out loud! We can't mention other sites on here which are a part of this continuum. That would be against TER's rules!