Gents
112 providers have been reviewed this month alone (excluding people who have only had one review). And while the almost always shilled women are wonderful, there are only about a dozen of them.
I have experienced our broader talents, so evidently have you since you are reviewing.
Variety is the spice of life. Share
Shills (generally) are ridiculously lame.
Christmas-Time: Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
Friday-Time: John the Brown-Nosed Hobbyist.
At least you two have been good enough to shill for your chosen favorites, so you have LOTS of room to gripe.....your contributions and positivity are greatly appreciated......
Crap... my nose has gotten pretty deep... has any of the brown lodged in-between my teeth too 
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I always look at their links .... For pics 
But most importantly I appreciate all the shills! Anyone that takes time out of their busy Friday to say, "Hey this provider is awesome, you should try her out" deserves a high five!!! (Regardless of who they are or who they shill for)
Be the change you want to see.
I have no interest in the sport of shilling on Fridays.
"(Hobby Shills) have no reason to live." Note: Modified take on Randy Newman's song "Short People."
The majority of shills end with an "eom" tag. Thus, there is nothing to actually read.
If comments (negative or positive) are added to a shill thread, they are usually removed by the moderators.
So you don't shill. And it appears you don't review.
What kind of site would it be if everyone followed your example?
I just hope we would still be free to criticize
You are free to do anything you want to do in the hobby.
My opinion that shills present little value reflects my feelings on the matter.
Reviews present varying issues for myself.
Example: I met a highly-reviewed traveling provider in Minneapolis in 2009. I was shocked at how different her body was in-person compared to her carefully presented images. The numerical leader in reviews on The Erotic Review had seen her a couple of months prior to my visit. I contacted him via private message to discuss how he could present a positive review when the visual presentation was so different than the actual product presented for a session. He agreed with my visual assessment. However, he was pleased that she had great natural breasts. He took a very high-road approach to crafting his review.
Philosophical Question: Would a tell-all review by myself benefit the situation for other hobbyists?
Note: The disjoint in my preconceived image of the provider and her actual state was so great that I had to stare at her facial features for several moments in order to determine if she was who I was so supposed to be meeting. I had located a non-blurred facial image prior to the meeting. After several intense moments of staring, she was indeed the same lady.
Note: Rather than write a devastating review, I handled the matter in a different fashion. The provider in question formally traveled with another provider that I had met. The two women had had a falling-out and were no longer friendly. I communicated my concerns to the other provider about her former friend. One way or another the visually-challenged provider was shamed into supplying updated images. I certainly cannot take all of the credit. The visually-challenged provider has been retired for some period of time. The other provider is still going strong.
Hold on just a minute.
First, I'm new here and new to the hobby. The shill thread was a great place for me to start "shopping". Oh, I could have gone through every single review for every provider, but when I saw that a provider was listed in the shill thread multiple times, I took it as a good indication that I should investigate further. I used the shill thread and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. It may be old news to you and you may consider it worthless. If thats the case, don't read the thread.
Second, you call it brown nosing. Maybe it is. Big deal. I see it as a way for clients to send a little shout-out and a little free advertising to their favorites. What is wrong with that? It seems to me that, at some level, alot of hobbiest want some form of emotional connection to their favorite provider, and its not like you can just call them up on the phone. Throwing a little "provider X is my favorite" (one day a week) is a small way to do that. If that is something that you can't stomach, don't read the thread.
I don't want to start a e-fight, I just wanted to show my support for a thread that I found useful, a harmless way to let a provider know that a client values the time the spend with them, and maybe (just maybe) the ladies get some form of joy or satisfaction from seeing their name on the thread. After all, what woman doesn't like to get compliments.
Christmas-Time: Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
Friday-Time: John the Brown-Nosed Hobbyist.
And a useful reminder that what is well known to those of us who have been around for a while isn't necessarily so for the newcomers who are regularly arriving.
You seem to have things figured out here already. Good luck and have fun.
You make an interesting observation about the emotional connection sought by hobbyists.
Could emotional connections extend to other areas of a provider's life?
Could a hobbyist have business and financial interests tied to their admiration of a provider?
Could such interests drive a hobbyist to do what it takes to help a provider advance her business via shills?
Story: I was a new hobbyist that did not fully appreciate the complex interactions between providers and hobbyists in the Minneapolis area. I became friends with a couple of veteran hobbyists. We would meet at local bars in order to socialize and share information prior to my planned visits with providers. One of the hobbyists kept encouraging me to meet one of his special Minneapolis lady friends. I was influenced enough by him to drop my previous plans to meet an agency girl and see his friend. In the due course of time, I was informed that my encouraging friend had many connections to the provider's business. For example, he had signed the lease for her in-call apartment near downtown Minneapolis. She paid the rent via her earnings. He got a tax advantage by asserting that he used the apartment for his own business meetings. Transparency (in shills and reviews) will always be a challenge.
....The only transparency we need is that the reviews are not faked (that's TERs job to monitor) and that guys have seen the provider he shills for. Beyond that we all have agendas here, even the shill posting rules reflect that. I have had many arrangements such as the one you describe and having a vested interest in seeing a provider succeed is a quality many of us share for self serving reasons including the fact that we want her to stick around because we enjoy seeing her...duh. But not Ted, he is some kind of hobby "purist". My hero. LMAO
Hey Ted, you know the first rule of holes, right? When in one, STOP digging. You have made your opinion known, yes even well known, now go away and get laid...please.
Could emotional connections extend to other areas of a provider's life?
Could a hobbyist have business and financial interests tied to their admiration of a provider?
Could such interests drive a hobbyist to do what it takes to help a provider advance her business via shills?
Story: I was a new hobbyist that did not fully appreciate the complex interactions between providers and hobbyists in the Minneapolis area. I became friends with a couple of veteran hobbyists. We would meet at local bars in order to socialize and share information prior to my planned visits with providers. One of the hobbyists kept encouraging me to meet one of his special Minneapolis lady friends. I was influenced enough by him to drop my previous plans to meet an agency girl and see his friend. In the due course of time, I was informed that my encouraging friend had many connections to the provider's business. For example, he had signed the lease for her in-call apartment near downtown Minneapolis. She paid the rent via her earnings. He got a tax advantage by asserting that he used the apartment for his own business meetings. Transparency (in shills and reviews) will always be a challenge.
In your case this hobbyist made a sustained effort to persuade you to see this provider. That doesn't resemble what goes on with the Friday shill thread at all.
but I actually will have a shill for a name you don't see too often on here next time around. I hope to see one from you too.
Is for the guys who complain about them to start contributing all the new ladies they see.
According to TER "A Shill Thread is a thread that is started with a post that is praise, thanks, or a recommendation for a certain provider for reasons of self-interest, personal benefit, or out of friendship or loyalty" it's not all about showcasing new talents although that can be a benefit.
Shill on boys, with that many new reviews the shill thread should be a whole lot longer than it is.
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Who doesn't love a deal?
I know I do. I don't hobby often, but when I do, I'm often swayed by a one hour special. Such activity, if widespread, may lead to new 'friendships', and thus, the resulting reviews and shills extolling the virtues of the provider.
EZ
.........to bring some variety to the shills by introducing the "First Friday" shill, which was intended to highlight new providers on the first Friday of each month. It had some limited success, but I was surprised at the number of negative comments I received, and so dropped the idea after a few months.
See the link below. (Interesting fact: Poppy is recommended in that thread...as a new provider!)
I still think it was a good idea.....
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I also recall early on when Shill Friday began there was much more participation & fresh skin to crawl into. It was a nice mix of the new & established & I found myself actually waiting with anticipation through the week for Friday to Cum.
It was exciting to watch new gals come aboard & see their biz take off from there. Now I do have to admit Shill Friday (for me) is just another day here. CHMON BOYZ! Sharing is caring.
Mwah!!!!
yeah it was a good thought. New talent is just so rare around here that to have a specific thread just for newer providers as you proposed would be a vast wasteland. A shill thread is just fine with the ones that are in there all the time and hopefully some random new talent.
We cant shill about talent that is not out there for us to shill about
We cant shill about talent that is not out there for us to shill about.
Again I reiterate it comes down to a lack of participation on the discussion board that has turned Shill Friday into just another day in Mn TER land.
Many of our established ladies got their boost that shot their business to the heavens. Bridget, Poppy, Mindy ect. I also noticed Miliani Delecruz mentioned in the thread OG posted. I have met her & lemme tell ya she is one hawt tamale in every way.
More participation is a win win for providers & hobbyists alike. Hopefully this conversation will act to encourage more gents to share their diamonds in the rough this coming friday. I know I'll be watching with great excitement. Please don't disappoint me. Purdy please?! Hehe!
I thought that was a great idea too.
See the link below. (Interesting fact: Poppy is recommended in that thread...as a new provider!)
I still think it was a good idea.....
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The bottom line is that each TER member is free to post shills if they follow the rules;
You want to shill for a new girl, just do it.
You want to shill for a regular you like, then do that.
You don't like shills and/or think they are lame, DON'T READ THEM.
But please DON'T keep bringing this subject up time after time. And here is a thought to some of you who bash the rest of us about our posting but post no reviews and no shills; TER would die if all the members were like you.
The vast majority of hobbyists do not post reviews. I believe I read a figure that perhaps only 10 percent of a provider's unique (i.e., non-repeat clients) encounters are documented via reviews. Thus, I guess you can feel special that you are one of the ten percenters holding The Erotic Review sturdy for all users.
..but I just spent the weekend with one of the hottest women I know, so yeah, I'm feeling REAL good. How about some attribution for the numbers you "read"? Gee, that would be nice, cause I was talking about about TER members not all mongers on the planet and the TER number is higher, in fact TER will share it with you if you ask nicely. Of course you never let the facts get in the way of a pejorative, opinionated post. Hey, great job on the 2009 thing. Let me see if I got it; 5 years ago you got a gal to change her pictures. Wow, what a great moment in hobby history. All along I have thought you were an asshat and it turns out you are my hobby hero.
Have a nice night. 
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Wasn't that 2009 (no, I guess it was 2012) when you were planning to sink the entire Minnesota hobby ship on one of the local lakes?
We all have short memories.
In any event, if I remember correctly, my numbers came from information posted by the "Love Goddess" on "The Erotic Highway" Discussion Board.
Have you posted reviews of all of your unique encounters? Why not?
Note: Why would I (or any other hobbyist) care if you thought I was an asshat or your hobby hero? You are just a name on the computer screen. You have no bearing on my life (civilian or hobby)
Teddy, wrong again. I must have a bearing on your hobby life since you see the need to justify yourself, unless your response here means that your TER account has been hacked, LMAO. Yeah, that was me who tried to organize a boat cruise M&G for the MN hobby. Somebody snitched and so it was just smaller and private, you weren't invited and we had fun.
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It's a nice round number that sounds good when you throw it out, but if you look at cases, it just doesn't hold up.
A delicate flower gracing this board just got her 100th review. Using your number that means she must have had 1000 unique, non-repeat clients in her career. There is really no question that she came brand-new to the hobby almost exactly two years ago - 730 days. So using your number again, and assuming no weekends off, no holidays, no time off for illness or, you know, that time of the month, she would have to have seen 1.36 (rounded down) new, non-repeating clients each and every day of her short career in order to garner 100 reviews. And that doesn't even allow for the many, many guys who brag in the review that they have seen her repeatedly. Or who attest to her responsiveness, professionalism and enthusiasm in ways that flatly preclude any claim that she is "high volume."
It's not at all uncommon for providers, especially newer ones, to receive five reviews or more every month, many months in a row. You really think they all saw 50 unique, non-repeating clients every month????
Nice round number. No validity whatsoever.
(And look! See how I snuck a nice, fullsome shill into the thread without shame or embarrassment? Don't hate me.)
Just for fun, ok!!? My first review was July 2011. And I'm at 200 now as of a few weeks ago.
Oh AND to be FAIR I have literally taken OFF A FULL ..... Hmmmm , roughly 22 weeks total
I can't wait to see what you come up with. Provided you see this and then are wiling to
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July 1, 2011 to April 1, 2014 is just about 1005 days. Less 154 days of OFF time leaves 901 days. If we accept the turboted 10% review frequency rule, that means you have seen 2000 clients since your first review, or 2.2 (rounded down) new, non-repeating clients each and every day you were available to work. Whew!
Actually, though, that's pretty darned impressive. You have received one new review every four and a half working days since you started. I hereby award you the "Makes Friends Easily" award for 2014, babe.
Don't you know you aren't supposed to do stuff like that?
Turns out 154 from 1005 leaves 851, not 901. Who knew? So you'd have had to see 2.35 new clients every day to hit 2000.
And you've received a new review every four and a quarter working days. You busy girl.
I actually started in this playing field MID-APRIL 2011.
First person to WRITE about it was in July.
To keep the statistics accurate the Numbers MUST be re-calculated.
The statisticians here Thank You in advance.
come on. you know you want to.
I'm waiting with bated breath.
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Ides of April to the end of June adds 76 days = 927 total working days. So to reach 2000 clients you'd have needed 2.15 new ones per day.
You have averaged one new review every 4.6 days working days during your career.
Numbers are so much less mysterious than women. But still fun sometimes
Damn Portia, with numbers like that and not taking any days off, you would have had to charge some clients an OT rate per the labor laws. You may want to see if you can back charge those that were on Over Time.
You have averaged one new review every 4.6 days working days during your career.
Numbers are so much less mysterious than women. But still fun sometimes.
She got 1800 reviews in the past couple of days?!
But you check every Friday, don't you?
gone unnoticed.