At what point should a donation be converted from Jacksons to Franklins? (i.e. $20s to $100s)
I'd say at around $1,000 because that's about the limit of a standard size envelope to stuff $20s into it.
generally get $50's not $20's or $100's.
Swim
Unless some banks are finally stocking their ATMs with Grants and Franklins, you pretty much have to write out a check to cash and wait in line at the bank and let them wonder why you are taking out so much cash in big notes. It just creeps me out a bit and of course it's pretty inconvenient compared to just hitting the ATM with no lines and no fuss.
I take several grand out in cash at my bank all the time, and can't imagine being given the third degree over it. The only reaction if any I get from any of the tellers is something on the order of "big weekend coming up?, have fun"
I carry only 100's with me. I only use 100's in P4P.
Even here in ChiTown the 7-11 has no issue with my paying for product with 100's.
Cashing a check is quite easy. And like you, for a few thousand at a time as well. I've never given this a second thought...and never will.
Oddly enough I've never used an ATM. I have the debit card just that I prefer to see the hotties that work in the bank.
And who uses an envelope to pay a gal? Dumbest thing ever suggested!
So some folks use envelopes and some don't. Big deal. Suggesting that using an envelope is the dumbest thing ever, now that's pretty dumb! 
Now some folks think putting their cash in an envelope magically protects them from getting arrested. I agree that attitude is dumb, but sois the attitude that thinks having your cash not in an envelope magically protects you from arrest. Lol
Personally, I use an envelope most of the time. Why? It's convenient to carry cash in envelopes. When I get cash from the bank teller, she usually puts it in an envelope. In my profession I sometimes get paid in cash by some of my clients. Many times the cash is in an envelope. When I travel, I usually have some cash in my wallet and several envelopes with cash for spending money, gambling money, or hobby money.
Bottom line: envelope or no envelope, no big deal. Never understand why some folks make a big deal out of it either way.
If you go back a few years, on this and especially the GD board, many hookers were DEMANDING that there donations be put in an envelope, supposedly for safety reasons, and additionally according to many of them because it made them feel less like a whore (I paraphrase of course) and many of them insisted that to not do so was a huge sign of disrespect, and so on and so on.
What I found hugely ironic is how many of the manginas and whiteknights also got on their high horse and insisted that any man who did not comply with this idiotic demand was a misogynist at best and a dangerous, disrespectful pig at worst.
Back when this debate first came up, probably a good 8 years ago, I was about the only guy here voting for a bit of common sense. An envelope offers ZERO protection, and for a hooker to DEMAND it's use, while not the dumbest thing I have ever heard of, is still pretty dumb.
Remember those famous words "I will beg for pussy, I will pay for pussy, but I will NOT beg to pay for pussy" Words to live by. lol
BTWI do sometimes use envelopes for cash, well at least I did back in my casino days, but to me "one envelope" equaled $10,000. If I brought five envelopes with me to a casino, that meant I was bringing $50,000. I still think of anything less than a grand in cash as pocket change, but each to their own. It's no biggie to me either, until some woman who watches too much Law and Order on TV starts demanding it.
Really??
You sure about that?
A number of high end providers require guys to place their money inside an envelope and leave at the designated spot (i.e., night stand, or next to the TV) where the provider wants.
If that is dumb to you, that's your problem.
The Forest Waits
And who uses an envelope to pay a gal? Dumbest thing ever suggested!
The attitude about envelopes has changed considerably here over the past few years, with common sense finally winning out.
If a hooker won't take my money sans envelope, than I will simply keep my money, problem solved.
Requests and suggestions are one thing, demands are quite another. Any man who gives into the "demands" of a hooker who wants him to jump through endless hoops before taking his money, will get exactly what he deserves.
Guys like you are why this board NEEDS guys like me, Jack and CPA. Without us, newbies would think that they would out of necessity have to jump through endless hoops in order to get one of these Goddesses to grace them with an hour or two of their time, for which they are already richly compensated.
For anyone who doesn't already know better, an envelope gives you about the same protection against arrest as any other "LE check" ZERO, NONE, ZILCH, NADA. It is a myth, most likely invented by some hooker who got her legal training by watching law and order.
If you want to use an envelope...by all means do so. But as GaG has pointed out it offers absolutely ZERO protection as to LE. Now if like PS or xyz comment they like to keep it all together and find it easier that way...no problem whatsoever.
But to think that some gal "has" to have her fees hidden from view to "enhance" the experience...nonsense on that noise IMHO.
I also don't simply place my bucks on a nightstand...I will hand it to her and make sure that she sees that I've correctly placed the amounts we agreed upon in her possession. This is a business deal...and I like to make sure that business is taken care of.
In most instances I see the envelope crap as dumb...if you don't...good for you.
Somehow I see you as the type of dude that will go on a wild goose chase because some gal wants to toy with you. And you'd do it...no questions asked!
You sure about that?
A number of high end providers require guys to place their money inside an envelope and leave at the designated spot (i.e., night stand, or next to the TV) where the provider wants.
If that is dumb to you, that's your problem.
The Forest Waits
And who uses an envelope to pay a gal? Dumbest thing ever suggested!
... and I'll do it the provider's way. It's called being respectful to the provider's wishes. Not a hard concept to grasp.
Either way, we get what we want.
Again...
Like I told GaGambler...
Putting money into an envelope, it's a very simple thing to do and it only takes a few seconds to do it.
Oh... it has NOTHING to do with 'money inside an envelope' will protect against LE check or whatever.
It has to do with being organized and not having to worry about money falling out or being misplaced.
If you don't understand that, that's your problem.
The Forest Waits
But to think that some gal "has" to have her fees hidden from view to "enhance" the experience...nonsense on that noise IMHO.
I also don't simply place my bucks on a nightstand...I will hand it to her and make sure that she sees that I've correctly placed the amounts we agreed upon in her possession. This is a business deal...and I like to make sure that business is taken care of.
In most instances I see the envelope crap as dumb...if you don't...good for you.
Somehow I see you as the type of dude that will go on a wild goose chase because some gal wants to toy with you. And you'd do it...no questions asked!
You sure about that?
A number of high end providers require guys to place their money inside an envelope and leave at the designated spot (i.e., night stand, or next to the TV) where the provider wants.
If that is dumb to you, that's your problem.
The Forest Waits
And who uses an envelope to pay a gal? Dumbest thing ever suggested!
For carrying "large amounts of cash."
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It wasn't funny at the time, but I had a friend who had a huge issue in Nassau, The Bahamas for attempting to bring $10,005 dollars back home with him, a trifling $5 over the legal limit. They threatened to confiscate the entire amount for him not declaring it.
I have no issues carrying a suitcase of cash on a domestic flight, but you won't catch me with more than ten grand on me when traveling internationally.
I do it all the time and have no issue. Also since when is a few hundred "so much cash?" Amother thing, there are many ATMs that give out 50s. If I can find them in Hawaii, they have to exist in the northeast.
...had any "wonder what they're thinking" moments.
About the ATM's and 50's, I've never found one in my area that gives 50's. I wish I could.
he ATMs at the Costcos here dispense 50s. There are a few other places I have heard of, but I have used the Costco ones. Normally I just go into a bank if it's normal banking hours, but the Costco ATM comes in handy on Saturdays and Sundays.
I have seen ATMs in Vegas casinos that dispense 100s
I also pay my rent in cash, so I am constantly making withdrawals in the 100's of dollars. I use 50's for rent as well as play.
Never been questioned about either w/d.
Swim
Just tell them your going out of town.... Its really NONE of their business.
I generally use Franklins for anything at 200 or more. It's always a lot easier to count less bills.
Easier to discretely check.
20's, some 50's and the rest in 100's. Providers sometimes need ready cash and it is difficult if she only has benjamins to use for a valet, incidentals at a convenience store, etc.
Why do you risk carrying about that much money?
Aside from the fact that it's for the session.
The only time that I carry large amount of money is going straight from the ATM to the provider.
I'm not going to carry hundreds or thousands of dollars for days on end. Rarely, you'll find more than $5 in my wallet. I pay for everything by bank or credit card these days.
I'm sure you have heard (via the news) people losing their envelopes with large amounts stuffed in them. A good hearted Samaritan might return the envelope, but let's be realistic, most people won't return the money.
I wouldn't know how to hide $1,000 in $20s in my pant pocket. It probably won't fit. Convert them to $100s and you're all set.
The Forest Waits
I'd say at around $1,000 because that's about the limit of a standard size envelope to stuff $20s into it.
I'm sure every provider is different, but I like all Benji's with the less than 100 being in Jackson's. I'm much less likely to spend a 100 dollar bill than 20's. I have huge saving goals, so any little thing that helps me save and not spend is nice. It just seems to go so quick when it's 20's.
Also, I'm still kind of awkward about counting the donation. Like, when am I supposed to do it, what if neither one of us has to use the bathroom? If it's not in an envelope and it's Benjamin's, I can count it just by glancing at it. I would feel really rude counting it in front of him.
I'd say at around $1,000 because that's about the limit of a standard size envelope to stuff $20s into it.
something like, "The gentleman needs to place the envelope on the table inside the front door and then go and wash his hands." Most guys can read and follow instructions.
but I find an envelope cumbersome in casual attire. I precount the donation & keep it together in my key pocket with a large paper clip. I've never had it refused or questioned. My key pocket changes with the seasons... WHY my key pocket? On a first date the donation is placed First but after we are acquainted I generally make myself at home... specifically I prefer dressing without my pockets full (how I drop things with risk of loss). I started because a special lady (thanks Joi) had a chair placed to receive my clothes. I placed my pocket junk on the dresser next to it. First thing down is the donation with other stuff over it. When redressing, the donation is silently left behind.
One MILF, I hadn't seen in a while, was fine with it the first time but on a subsequent date swooped in to collect her donation before I finished filling my pockets. Likely she'd been stiffed by guys in the interval so I understood. Unfortunately the circumstances were less than desirable so I wasn't going back anyway... perhaps she sensed that??
I still do this will ALL my Favorites... (repeat appointments) & I think it adds to the GFE atmosphere. I do not watch the donation once left. Sometimes in the back & forth of dressing & bathrooms I notice the donation is gone... or sometimes not... It is of no concern to me because once I step away, it is no longer mine.