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Geez, TJ, I wasn't even responding to you...
fasteddie51 975 reads
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Look, I think we got off on the wrong foot.  My post wasn't a shot at you.  Marikod made a statement, I researched the resolution and agreed that I thought his point was valid.  

I DID read the links you posted.  and while I don't agree with their conclusions, I didn't even say you were wrong... as a matter of fact, I give you props for admitting to the fact that climate change may be real, regardless of whether it is natural or man-made.

Tell you what... let's start over, you and me.  You don't call me names, don't call me a "lefty", which I'm really not, (in fact, RWU thinks I'm a closet conservative - lol), don't refer to my weight or diabetes, and I won't call you stupid.  Seriously, I really appreciate your passion... left or right, if more people had your verve for political discourse, we'd all be better off... So I'm extending an olive branch... let's agree to disagree and keep it on a civil level of intellignt debate and discourse.

What do you say?  Let's start over.  

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tjrevisted3845 reads

Only of the people's oppinions I care about, so eddie, your ''expertise'' is not needed here..LOL
Please look into this be4 getting back to me with what you think this means..Their are PLENTY of ''lefty's'' on this board whos oppinions I respect, willy, poopa (thats my pet name for you) lol- and of course''my friend'' Marikod, I just ask you start researching with an open mind, AND YES I COPY AND PASTED THE PART IN QUOTATIONS..Notice the date and The name of the treaty "CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES APPROVED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE UNITED NATIONS ON 10 DECEMBER 1976"......
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''This title alone tells us conclusively that scientists of at least several nations who have a history of being hostile to one another now possess scientific knowledge that can control damaging weather to the point of being able to use such weather as hostile, destructive weapons. Exactly which countries possess this damaging capability is not clear; however, we know that, in this 20th Century, Western Capitalism has been nose-to-nose with Eastern Russian Communism. Therefore, we can only conclude that both Russia and America possess this technology.


What kind of damaging weather might be useful as military weapons? I think the following list might be possible candidates.
1. Earthquakes -- This phenomenon might be the most terrifying, since people cannot live without foundation. Entire city structures are based upon buildings having dependable foundations. Therefore, since the New World Order Plan envisions eliminating cities, we might expect that earthquakes would be a preferred weapon of choice. Severe earthquakes might result in the wholesale evacuation of cities.
2. Hurricanes and/or Typhoons -- Wind has proven to be such a devastating force that, once again, it might force large-scale evacuation of cities if the incidence of hurricanes were to become so regular as to render a city location untenable.
3. Flooding -- Rampaging waters are a huge force that threatens entire regions of the country. Since the goal is to force farmers out of business, or to return the most fertile farmlands back to "Nature" [which New Agers call 'Rewilding'], floods would be a most useful weapon. Flooding can also force farmers to miss an entire planting and growing season, thus reducing the amount of food available to a population. Most people think of a lack of food being caused by drought, when the reality is that flooding at the wrong time of the year can produce an equal loss of food production.

4. Drought -- Lack of water is more devastating to farming than flooding. Since the population growth of the past 60 years would not have been possible had it not been for the growth in food production, we might expect that drought might be a useful tool in persuading people of the need to drastically reduce population growth.


In both flooding and drought, we have the potential of totally devastating a people's way of life.

Remember that the overall goal of the New World Order Plan is to reduce the world's population by two-thirds, and to set aside over 50% of America and other nations that would not off limits to humans for using or residing. These same people, i.e., Gore, Clinton, Bush now have control both over the amount of emergency stocks of food and of Weather Control capabilities!

5. Tsunami Waves -- If someone would want to force people away from living on the coastline of any nation, consistent tsunami waves would be the ideal tool. This huge wave is totally devastating and terribly frightening.
6. Volcanoes -- Erupting volcanoes can also dramatically change the landscape of the region in which it is located. Nearby cities can, and have been, eliminated.
7. Tornadoes -- We have experienced such an increase in devastating tornado activity, one has to really wonder why.
8. Severe Heat over a long period of time -- Of course, this capability produces the Drought of which we speak, above, and probably should have been mentioned in conjunction with it. However, our nation is currently in the grip of unprecedented heat this summer. How many consecutive days of 100+ degree weather does it take for fertile and productive farmland to be turned into wasteland? Does anyone know? Are we about to find out?

Now, let us return back to this United Nations' treaty prohibiting the hostile, or military, use of Weather Modification capabilities.1. The provisions of this Convention shall not hinder the use of environmental modification techniques for peaceful purposes and shall be without prejudice to the generally recognized principles and applicable rules of international law concerning such use.-

The first page of this report simply sets forth the framework into which the treaty fits, and is generally not exciting. However, a couple of points jump out at you when you read it carefully.

A. Paragraph 1, beginning with the word "Guided" -- "Guided by the interest of consolidating peace, and wishing to contribute to the cause of halting the arms race, and of bringing about general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control ..." Were you aware that the entire world, including the United States, was engaged in "general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control"? Not only is general disarmament of independent nations of the world a New World Order goal, but the turning over of weapons, materiel, and men to the United Nations is a long term goal! ''
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PS- I DO BELIEVE THIS TREATY PROVES THE TECHNOLOGY IS HERE and has been for quite some time (deffinitly long enough to have mastered weather control),which means I was wrong and ''climate change'' is a real problem, AND IS MAN MADE..:( .... ---> THIS TREATY DOES SAY IT IS OK TO MODIFY WEATHER FOR PEACEFULL PURPOSES such as disarmerment and depopulation!!! IT JUST SAYS ''HOSTILE'' weather control is not allowed..WDF?? ARTICLE 111 CLEARLY STATES THIS.. I thought this was VERY INTERESTING, considering ALLLLLL the floods and devistation weve had since ''The big O'' has been in office..GA WAS THE DRYEST STATE THE COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN LAST YEAR, this year were flooded..The floods in the midwest displaced more people than Katrina, with no news play or mention of ALL the deviststaion..



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Hard to believe that technology exists to weaponize the weather, although I have noticed that it's usually raining whenever Rightwingunderground posts something but I have my own theory as to that one.

       Triggering a volcano or earthquake or hurricane would seem beyond anyone's ability. As far as I know, efforts to cause rain by seeding clouds have been inconsistent and debatable although the Chinese claim some success here.

     Far more likely that we are inadvertently changing the weather by carbon emissions etc.

tjrevisted1789 reads

It is hard to believe, thats why I never posted links about the info I did have on it marikod..


But our storms are ALL STRENGTHINGING and we now have 60% more SERIOUS storms, than we had in the 70's..

- I soooooo want to believe that govt is good, cause them being as bad as I see and think they are is scarey...No evidence supports storms weakening, all the evidence I foundf and see with my own 2 eyes, looks like this technology is bneing used against us...But your ALWAYS positive and trusting attitutde says to me, YOU'RE A TOTAL SWEETHEART!!! And because you're sooooo sweet, its hard for you to see bad..


Thankyou for your oppinion though, friend...I appreciate it, and am trying to think they are using this technology in good ways, I just dont see that with my own 2 eyes...


xoxo, Your friend Talula :0


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Here's a link to the actual resolution itself.  It's basically a general resolutions toward disarmament and peace, and seems to be trying to cover all of the basics and contingencies, weather included.

It states:

Recognizing that scientific and technical advances may open new possibilities with respect to modification of the environment...

I think MAY is the operative word here.

tjrevisted1425 reads

Look at it again...WTF


Come on boi, catch up slow poke..YOU DONT EVEN LOOK AT THE SHIT AND LINKS I PROVIDE, AND THEN DEBATE ME..Eddie YOU DONT HAVE AN OPNE MIND, youre soooo closed minded, you cant have a debate about things you dont believe in AND THATS HOW YOU STAY DUMB, AND YOUR MIND AND EARS CLOSED--->SHEEP, they made you think this shit cant happen, they shaped your mind...AND YOU ARE WHO THEY WANT YOU TO BE..DAMN I WANT I WANT TO CALL YOU A NAME...Cause you irritate THE FUCK OUTTA ME WITH YOUR GAMES AND CLOSE MINDEDNESS- and how you act because of it

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tjrevisted978 reads

ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS..Everyother cause would be considerd ''HOSTILE''...



PS- OBAMA LOVE RATTIEFIENG TREATY'S, are we clear on this?

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Look, I think we got off on the wrong foot.  My post wasn't a shot at you.  Marikod made a statement, I researched the resolution and agreed that I thought his point was valid.  

I DID read the links you posted.  and while I don't agree with their conclusions, I didn't even say you were wrong... as a matter of fact, I give you props for admitting to the fact that climate change may be real, regardless of whether it is natural or man-made.

Tell you what... let's start over, you and me.  You don't call me names, don't call me a "lefty", which I'm really not, (in fact, RWU thinks I'm a closet conservative - lol), don't refer to my weight or diabetes, and I won't call you stupid.  Seriously, I really appreciate your passion... left or right, if more people had your verve for political discourse, we'd all be better off... So I'm extending an olive branch... let's agree to disagree and keep it on a civil level of intellignt debate and discourse.

What do you say?  Let's start over.  

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To the best of my knowledge, there was some experiments done with controlling weather back in the 60's and 70's. Much of the experiments were used to try to stop hurricanes. As best as I can remember, chemicals were dropped on a hurricane, with the hope that it would dissapate. The result was that it didn't do anything.

I have serious doubts that this technology exists. The only one I could see that could possibly be man made would be floods or maybe tsunamis. We could possibly do this with sub-sonic frequencies, but it would have to be one hell of an elaborate set up.

You might wanna see if you can track down more of the technology on this TJ. I good place to look would be The Project Censored Yearbook. check out their website to read more about them. projectcensored.org. I seem to remember them reporting about the HAARP project in (I believe) Alaska. Do a google search of HAARP and Project Censored, and you might find some scary stuff.

If we assume there is a New World Order, then I don't think they would be in favor of wiping out two thirds of the population. It really would be against their interests.

Let me explain. Throughout European (Western) history, the existance of a middle class has been quite rare. The first time it happen to a significant degree was right after the Black Plague. How are these two events connected?

Well the Black Plague wiped out anywhere between 25% to 50% of Europe. And as a result, there was a shortage of workers. With a shortage of workers, wages skyrocketed, so much so that people began to have leisure time. This leisure time led directly to the Renaissance.

So wiping out a large number of the population would be a bad idea for the people at the top controlling things. To control people you need them to be poor and desperate. If they have plenty of money and leisure time, they tend to question your authority. Not good for the people in power.

tjrevisted745 reads

I know about HAARP, I never posted a thread about it, but may now that I found this treaty..

I actually found out about the treaty in a book about HAARP...here are some sites about it..

http://data4science.net/essays.php?EssayID=832
http://data4science.net/essays.php?EssayID=834

This is an essay by a guy who write the book, it was picked up by this website, the author clearly states in the book he DOES NOT support all the research on this site, but science, good science should never be 100% agreed upon..

(these links are about hurricane hannah, on the second link, you can clearly see the storm is strengthing, by weather minipulation..)

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tjrevisted893 reads

And a electro magnetic charge of the air and clouds from antenna fields/MICROWAVE TOWERS, and is controlled by these attena's, it also heats up the stratusphere, causing huge storms...THIS IS VERY BASIC KNOWLEDGE ON HARRP..Research it or google it if you want to know more..PLEASE :)


Just wanted some of you who didnt know what harrp is to know

PS- If you dont think your being sprayed, JUST START LOOKING AT THE SKY!!! You'll see it especially here in ATL, and probably really bad in the mid west too!!



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tjrevisted1209 reads

With the treaty, AND HARRP...

AND ALL THE STORMS AND HYPE ABOUT WEATHER, YOU STILL THINK iM MAKIN SHIT UP-YOU ARE THE BLINDEST DUMBEST MOST IGNORANT PEICE OF SHIT THEIR IS ON TER EDDIE, POSSIBLY IN AMERICA


Go on with you sheep self, BaaaaaaHHH- CraZY SHIT IS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD WE LIVE IN EDDIE..And you dont even know it, YOU HAVE NO CLUE...You arethe sheep..


BUT DO YOU THINK YOU LOOK COOL TREATING ME THE WAY YOU DO??? YEA, REAL COOL ASSHOLE, do realize people are waking up to the truth, AND YOU MAY BE THE ONE THAT LOOKS STUPID, FOR HOW YOU RESPOND TO ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL MY GOD DAMN POSTS

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_Puck_1073 reads

You should be aware that even here, beyond the bounds of polite discourse, multiple handles are NOT permitted in a single thread.

Recalibrate and try again!

_Puck_911 reads

Actually, I once met Art - and I can't honestly say he believed that tinfoil hat stuff - so perhaps I'm being unfair to him.

I'm uninterested in any comparison between us, though.

Truly.

fasteddie512065 reads

Sorry, but it's not me!

tjrevisted2220 reads

''Well the Black Plague wiped out anywhere between 25% to 50% of Europe. And as a result, there was a shortage of workers. With a shortage of workers, wages skyrocketed, so much so that people began to have leisure time. This leisure time led directly to the Renaissance.''

 the UN is calling for a 90% reduction...90%, think about it at 90% population reduction, if it is achieved would leave 10%, their is a 5% ''elite'' that owns everything, at 5% and 10% their would be a few slaves for every elitist AND all their family, and an EASIER NUMBER TO CONTROL...

any more than 10% would need a functioning society, or total support, if the black plague had killed 90% I bet the out come on the future/us would have been VERY different..Just had this thought, which I geuss means I was thinking BOUT you, and just wanted to make this point to you




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