With agencies, its fine because the booker holds no personal agenda but with indies, its vice versa. With agencies, all you have to do is be a nice and professional guy, go in, be nice, and go home. With Indies, the lines sometimes get cross and they treat you like your in a personal relationship with them. I don't need that shit.
Before I continue, I will not PM anyone for who she is. I doubt she will continue working here on TER. Met her about 2 months ago and despite my whitelistings and provider references, she wanted employment information. My first mistake. I don't usually give out employment information but made an exception. Things progressed and I invited her to my house. My second mistake. She's been over several times. Without going into too much details but she wanted my damn fucking life and the money I had. I Told her she's crazy and she threatened me and tries to blackmail me. She sent a few threatening text messages saying she'll call my workplace and have cops come to my neighborhood. Such a crazy women. I'm always prepared for these silly ass scenarios. First off, you can't live in a neighborhood like mine without surveillance and the signs are posted in the front entrance of the neighborhood. Secondly, she doesn't know my real name despite me giving her my hobby name and my employment information. At my workplace, I go by a nickname, and that's how she verified me. She said she took a piece of my mail when I wasn't looking. Such bullshit. I keep my mail at a specific place and would know if any mail is missing. Remember, you've met her as a prostitute and that's who she is. Sorry to put it like that and I don't like to generalize things. Also, in the civie world, shit can escalate quickly too. I've got some crazy stories about some civie girls too. Not just escorts. But how you met them first is who they usually are. Don't try to change that. Get in, get it done, and be on your way. Don't ever establish any kind of relationship with an escort. Keep it professional and clean. Get in, take care of your business, and get the fuck out until you want to see her next time. You think you know her and think you have something going on with a prostitute? You better think twice about that. Just because she's been nice to you doesn't mean she won't turn on your fucking ass for a few dollars and other bullshit things. Same goes with civie girls. Civie girls can be a real bitch to deal with too. Fuck them, forget get, and be on your way until you want some pussy again. If it doesn't deal with pussy, then get the fuck out. If you want to start a relationship, then this is no place to start one.We all want love dear .
Just what you to not be Vilent and I hope the girls treat you hot and cold it's all hot . Remember your married silly , . Kisss alway huge for good measure . Balance you sexual emotions
She could be in a lot of trouble and will regret if she acts on it.
But it can be hard to find a local that is what you want and is available in a convenient area. I've had several over the years and the lines have never been crossed. I understand you're upset with this girl and you're venting, but you're also generalizing.
Sorry to hear your experience with this particular independent was so insane. I'm sure it is across the board however... you'll find the occasional crazy agency girl too won't you? But for your sake, I'll knock on wood and hope that won't happen, hah. I also hope you'll find a good indie girl that will help erase this bad memory from your mind and restore your faith in us. : P
So, what happens when she shows up at your place of work. Should you drive to work, how do you know she won't mess with your car.
Thanks for posting, though. Just a good reminder for me not to cross that line of giving out too much personal information. Made that mistake before and almost cost me everything. Although, sometimes the provider just looks so good its tempting. Thinking with little head instead of bigger head.
Good luck with it and hope thats the end of the drama for you Dollar
If this woman really wanted your money and was threatening you then something is wrong with her. Many ladies today may want employment verification because anyone can say they are so and so from TER and then end up being Mr.popo. It's a tough game the hobby and providing and we are just trying our best to remain safe.
When we ask for such information it is just to verify that you are safe to see and honestly we all have a lot to lose here! I ask for refs and numbers and if that fails then I want more information. I personally care about my life and my well being and don't want any headaches. I also don't blur the lines. I am not looking for a financial doner or for a husband in this. 
Just some fun and it has provided me financial stability. Awesome I think!
Get mad at whoever you are talking about but don't lump us all in!
I am fine with giving out my name and let them check it against my ID because the ladies need that to feel safe.
Your mistake is that you got too close too fast.
With that big grin in the title I have a hard time really believing this is a "true story", but in case it is:
--You were dumb. You were not comfortable giving out certain info but you did anyway. Bad on you.
--You were dumb a second time when you brought her to your home without knowing her better.
--You are really dumb if you think that she doesn't know your real name--if she knows your address and work info, getting your name is easy.
--Since you brought her to your home I assume you are not married--if you are you are dumb beyond any help unless it was a trio. And in that case the blackmail aspect as far as family would be long gone, wouldn't it?
--From what you said she already blackmailed you. She is in a world of hurt. You are in lesser hurt. Grow a spine and tell her you will press charges if you ever hear from her again, and put up with the weird looks you will get from neighbors (low odds, and in the scheme of things you need to decide what is really important to you).
--So she sends the cops into your neighborhood. So what? Unless of course you have 5 acres of funny green stuff in your backyard or something. Let her send them.
None of this justifies her doing what you describe--it's absolutely wrong. But so are you.
How you meet someone does not determine who they are. Had you met her at the grocery store or a bus stop or a church social she is who she is. One could make the same argument that since she met you as a John, that means you must be an inherently dishonorable person seeking to find a stable of women to pimp. That would be as much of a valid conclusion as your generalization.
If this is real (questionable) and you are as concerned/upset as you pretend to be (also doubtful based upon the grinning face) then here is the prevention:
--Stop being stupid and giving out info you aren't comfortable giving out.
--Rent a hotel.
--AND QUIT SHOPPING OFF THE DOLLAR MENU.
This can't be real. Can it? You asked people not to pm you for the name of provider. I can understand that it's impossible to come up with the name of a fictional provider. LMAO.
To each there own . Love ya any way kiss.
I don't provide employment info or any other identifiable information...period. I dont book via email either. It's just plain stupid to do so. You have no idea what any provider or agency would do with the info and furthermore...email communications are always the least private or protected. LE in may state can obtain it without even a warrant. If a provider chooses not to see me...so be it, another one will.
A very similar thing happened to me.
I'll acknowledge now that I made a lot of foolish mistakes. So before I get any comments on my mistakes I acknowledge that some of this is on me.
A bit differently how it happened but essentially I took her in when she had no place to go. She was evicted from her place she was renting. She came and stayed in my house, I drove her around everywhere. Paid for almost everything. Food, booze, gas. I was the one who made her website. She never appreciated a goddamn thing I did for her. She even decided to get a pet, a cat which cost 600 dollars when at the time she still owed me 800. This cat which stayed at my home and I took care of it for a couple months. For a few months this went on. She even "borrowed" money from me to get hotels to work. At first she did pay back a small amount of it. But then she stopped paying me back. She had so many excuses.
Then one day she leaves and doesn't answer calls, texts, or emails. Of course I'm pissed off and I tried getting in contact several times. 2 months go by and one day at 4 AM I get a call saying her roommate got violent and was knocking shit around and she needed somebody to pick her up because she didn't want to stay there with him. So I drive an hour to pick her up at her new apartment and come back to my place. For the subsequent two weeks it's back to me driving her places. One evening at near midnight while at my house she says she needs to go all the way back to her apartment to let in her roommate who locked himself out. The same guy who she can't be alone with in the same place she had me drive an hour there and an hour back just to let in this moron.
Another two weeks later she says she is moving out of her apartment and needs a new place to live and she needed to work so she again hits me up for money. Begging and begging saying she's got nowhere else to turn. I'm pretty wary at this point, she had me go down to the hotel pay it in person and refused to even meet me in person. She said she would have the money for me within 2 days. 2 days later I ask for it and I get the answer "tomorrow". This happens for the next 5 days. For a week she keeps telling me tomorrow. I never get the money back.
I've been incredibly patient and I have been pretty understanding regarding her situation. She continued to lie to me and I decided that I was done with her lies and bullshit earlier this week. I contacted her and asked her where my money was again. This week she finally said she was going to block my number. After 5 months and she still hasn't paid me back I get that response after all of the things I did for her.
At this point she still owes me over $1100 from paying for her hotels so she could work. The number is way higher if you factor in all the food,booze driving and stays at my house. Which I wasn't even asking for.
I never received any off the time clock or anything like that if anyone is thinking that. I never received any repayment. In fact I even offered to accept repayment in appointment hours instead of the money which she said okay to but then obviously reneged on because she is a liar.
I know I made a lot of mistakes. We all play the fool sometime huh? Fooled me twice, shame on me.
Anyone who thinks this isn't real or I'm making this up I have thousands of texts and emails to prove what I'm saying. Luckily at least I have receipts for all the things I paid for so it wasn't cash transactions as she had actually even asked for.
You know who you are, I know you'll read this. I want my goddamn money back. And come get the rest of your shit out of my house.
I'm giving you another 30 days to send me my money before I explore and initiate legal proceedings against you. I have the evidence to prove my claim and I will win. You have the same amount of time to retrieve the remainder of your property before I consider it as abandoned and will either destroy or sell.
Don't PM me asking who it is, I don't have vip so I don't have PMs right now if you read my first paragraph you can probably figure out who it is.
Dude....you could give her another 45-90 days, it wont matter a bit...the money is gone and you aint getting it back. All you can do is let it go,lesson learned and move on...or maybe you could give all her contact and location info to a guy name " Dexter" and let him handle it.
Even if I never get it back I definitely plan on filing my suit. I know she already has piss poor credit. Another civil judgment will destroy whatever credit she has left. I hope she enjoys having zero credit.
Yeah, I got hustled pretty good.
I change my mind. In the interest of not letting this happen to anyone else. Anyone wants to know who this thief is can email me since I don't have PMs. [email protected]
Oh is that you hiding behind an alias? Either way I don't care. It doesn't matter if it's only $10 or $100 or $1000 , it's MY HARD EARNED MONEY. A small claims lawsuit costs less than 50 bucks to file. Why wouldn't I?
Also, $1100 was only what I was asking for in return because I was being forgiving. That was only the money that I spent on hotels so that she could "work". Whoever had appointments on my dime I hope you guys enjoyed it. However as I mentioned previously, the actual amount of time and money spent on this undeserving and ungrateful human being, is probably at least twice that number.
I get it. I probably won't ever see a dime back from this thief. But if I'm going to make damn sure she doesn't ever profit off my hard work or anyone else's ever again. If she even loses one customer thanks to my warnings then I'm satisfied.
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Oh get this. Today she sends me an email saying "Glad I didn't send you the $ I had last night. You're fucking weird." Yeah right. As if the 5 months I've been waiting for it wasn't enough time I'm supposed to believe last night she was ready to finally pay me back? Give me a fucking break. And I'm weird? I'm not the one who took somebody's hard earned money after they spent a lot of money and time helping you when you didn't even have a place to live you ungrateful thief.
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I'll acknowledge now that I made a lot of foolish mistakes. So before I get any comments on my mistakes I acknowledge that some of this is on me.
A bit differently how it happened but essentially I took her in when she had no place to go. She was evicted from her place she was renting. She came and stayed in my house, I drove her around everywhere. Paid for almost everything. Food, booze, gas. I was the one who made her website. She never appreciated a goddamn thing I did for her. She even decided to get a pet, a cat which cost 600 dollars when at the time she still owed me 800. This cat which stayed at my home and I took care of it for a couple months. For a few months this went on. She even "borrowed" money from me to get hotels to work. At first she did pay back a small amount of it. But then she stopped paying me back. She had so many excuses.
Then one day she leaves and doesn't answer calls, texts, or emails. Of course I'm pissed off and I tried getting in contact several times. 2 months go by and one day at 4 AM I get a call saying her roommate got violent and was knocking shit around and she needed somebody to pick her up because she didn't want to stay there with him. So I drive an hour to pick her up at her new apartment and come back to my place. For the subsequent two weeks it's back to me driving her places. One evening at near midnight while at my house she says she needs to go all the way back to her apartment to let in her roommate who locked himself out. The same guy who she can't be alone with in the same place she had me drive an hour there and an hour back just to let in this moron.
Another two weeks later she says she is moving out of her apartment and needs a new place to live and she needed to work so she again hits me up for money. Begging and begging saying she's got nowhere else to turn. I'm pretty wary at this point, she had me go down to the hotel pay it in person and refused to even meet me in person. She said she would have the money for me within 2 days. 2 days later I ask for it and I get the answer "tomorrow". This happens for the next 5 days. For a week she keeps telling me tomorrow. I never get the money back.
I've been incredibly patient and I have been pretty understanding regarding her situation. She continued to lie to me and I decided that I was done with her lies and bullshit earlier this week. I contacted her and asked her where my money was again. This week she finally said she was going to block my number. After 5 months and she still hasn't paid me back I get that response after all of the things I did for her.
At this point she still owes me over $1100 from paying for her hotels so she could work. The number is way higher if you factor in all the food,booze driving and stays at my house. Which I wasn't even asking for.
I never received any off the time clock or anything like that if anyone is thinking that. I never received any repayment. In fact I even offered to accept repayment in appointment hours instead of the money which she said okay to but then obviously reneged on because she is a liar.
I know I made a lot of mistakes. We all play the fool sometime huh? Fooled me twice, shame on me.
Anyone who thinks this isn't real or I'm making this up I have thousands of texts and emails to prove what I'm saying. Luckily at least I have receipts for all the things I paid for so it wasn't cash transactions as she had actually even asked for.
You know who you are, I know you'll read this. I want my goddamn money back. And come get the rest of your shit out of my house.
I'm giving you another 30 days to send me my money before I explore and initiate legal proceedings against you. I have the evidence to prove my claim and I will win. You have the same amount of time to retrieve the remainder of your property before I consider it as abandoned and will either destroy or sell.
Don't PM me asking who it is, I don't have vip so I don't have PMs right now if you read my first paragraph you can probably figure out who it is.
man....if i loan my mother money she know to pamper me at least in the kitchen or something.
if you don't tolerate certain behavior from your mother....don't let another woman do it to you.
you gotta lay out ground rules if you gonna get involved with a hustler/professional. you gotta be tough with her so to speak.
Do any of you guys even know if the things he is saying about the poor girl are TRUE? Or if he has some other reasons he is avidly trying to ruin her reputation in this on and offline community? I'm just saying, you 'gentlemen' tend to gang up on a girl or idea of what girls are because of what *some* are capable of and the guys just all chime in because that all of these ideals having to do with how they would feel or react if they'd been wronged.. Maybe a part of you has an axe to going for some girl who did something at one point in your past or current situation and you just all out believe whatever one man has ranted, the stories that have been spun.. Realize every single one of us are real people and there are basically three sides to every story. Aren't there? There's his, there's hers... And somewhere between the two there's the truth. Also remember that if it sounds so wild that you choose to get all up in arms about it, that maybe, just maybe it isn't completely valid. To me, it seems a little like sour grapes from a one time client and there might be other reasons for the animosity that eventually ensued. The animosity which this guy decided to vindictively act out over a somewht public forum/online possibly to hurt her or her name, possibly so she doesn't see other guys? Who knows. Buddy, we get that you're trying to hurt the girl but seriously, go find something else to do with your energy. I don't think your anger and bitterness is healthy for anyone here. You're going to make people here paranoid or aggressive. You guys sound like you're about to lynch someone. Put the torches down and relax. Just something to consider you guys- all I'm saying.