I just saw this hottie on a modeling web site and was blown away, just love the shape of her body, just have to sit back and wait to see if she even does HC, let alone provide down the road, but figured I'd share a Pic of her

B-Pop

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BigPoppa,
I have nothing but respect for you, so please don't take this comment personally. Your taste here is impecable. The issue has come up on the boards before as to who is and who is not a PORN STAR.
Now this girls picture is spectacular. given the opportunity, i wouldn't hesitate to make my appointment with her.
BUT....beyond these pictures, she hasn't done any movies. In fact, her profile on ladirectmodels indicates she on shoots solo stills and video. No g/g, no b/g, not even toys!
So as much I want her (and I certainly do), I wouldn't call her a porn star.
Any thoughts from the board?????

I agree.  She is gorgeous but if she has never had the male "member" inside at some point on film she imho cannot be called a porn star.

I know all these things, and I wasn't saying she was a PORN STAR in the classic sense or definition, I'm just hoping beyond hope that she starts doing HC boy/girl or providing on so many diffrent levels, lol

B-Pop

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Maybe a better term for a lady without a body of work would be "adult talent"...

But personally, I don't have a big objection to someone calling a provider who's in the adult industry a pornstar regardless of how many videos she has or hasn't done as long as she doesn't charge Porn Star rates (note the caps)... It's when a girl's done a couple of gonzo vid's and suddenly is touring with an agency at $1500/hr that I take exception to.

For example, and no offense to the lady, but a former “regular” provider who's only recently done a couple of porn vids is touring at $1450/hr.  Her website states that her old “GFE friends” are "grandfathered" in at $550/hr. Now, her reviews are all stellar; 9's and 10's - BBBJCIM, DATY, the whole nine yards - this isn't about performance or how hot she looks, but sorry, in my opinion having two videos listed on www.rame.net doesn’t justify a $900 price increase, not to mention a few hundred more if you want to videotape the meeting.

Ok, what do we call legitimate adult talent that charges regular rates instead of agency rates.......I'd call her sweetheart, darling, and anything else she wanted to be called.
BigPoppa, you do have a great eye for talent!!! Long may you continue and thrive!

So whats the magic number Eddie?, how many videos must you do befor you are recognized as a porn star? maybe the number is 19, thats how many titles your good friend Kathy Willets has listed on www.rame.net and at over a thousand an hour she certainly charges porn star rates. I think any lady who has performed in a commercial adult video and has done boy/girl or girl/girl has the right to be called a porn star.

as always

HAPPY HUNTING

Another thing to consider talking semantics:  What makes them a 'Star'?

There's 1000's of SAG members, very few of which I consider 'stars'.  Why should porn hold a different standard?

Is it really fair to compare a 1-2 movie actress with Brianna, Jenna, Racquel, or Ashlyn by using the same term to describe all 5?

In the past, strippers got jealous that a lone PS could come into their clubs and make $5000 a weekend dancing.  So the strippers suddenly started using a camcorder and saying they 'have a porno movie' to get more money.

Many young escorts are trying to do the same thing.  Most of us clients are smart enough to avoid the same trap twice.

"I knew Traci Lords. Traci was my friend. And you Madam, you are no Traci Lords."  I'm sure someone on this board can back me up on this....

Keeping it Safe, Sane, and Consenual - Kosh

Just my 2 cents after 10 yrs in adult plus another 2 owning a socal escort agecy back in the late 90's

I tend to agree with Ed there is a difference between a star like ( Jenna Fine, Alexandra Quinn, Holly Body, Layla Jade, Brittany Andrews, Tiffany Mynx's ect. ) to a woman of todays porn standards.

Honestly I don't see the point in spending 1000+ on any piece of ass. In reality non of the woman in todays porn that are jsut starting or even been in for a yr really deserve the porn star label. Now some one like Jesse Jane or a few others come very close to these levels of today porn world.

I honestly have a problem calling any one in porn that doesn't suck a cock or do boy/girl a porn star. Seems to me to defeat the purpose.

I know quit a few ladies that have gotten into porn as of late for no other reason then to do 20 movies max probably and then get listed on a E2K and list for 1000+
One prime example is Amber Peach. How the fuck does she get away with doing this?? according to Rame.net shes been in a whopping 14 movies most not more then a BJ scene.

To me as the men that pay these prices and in reality control the prices. We need to look at our selves as the ones that are stupid enough to let the small head do our thinking. If we boycotted alot of these sites for a bit and really only spent 1000 on the girls that really deserved it for putting in there time in adult and really have made a name for themselves. We would then control what these basic no name girls are getting . I personally would never spend 400 to see Amber Peach. I am one of the first to shot her and shes not worth the money. great face rest leaves something to be desired. But I also think there are alot of these ladies that after 20-50 movies deserve to be at 600 or so. I think anything more then that is excessive. When you consider that 600-1000 is average for a boy/girl thats going out for dvd or the web.

Some one like Kathy Willets is an exception to the rule she made her name back in the day getting real news PR cant beat that and she was smart enough to jump on the band wagon.

In conclusion I honestly dont think there are many woman the really deserve the $1000 mark. I would guess its probably less the 100-200 woman if that. The majority of porn Ladies to day are far from it. very far from it.

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How about Cynthia Pendragon? She is model material, done some good scenes. Don't think she's a provider.