I think it's safe to say that all ladies arn't GFE. Sometimes I thinkit's over rated, espicially to those who you can never please. Is GFE a deal breaker when deciding to see a lady? What if a lady offered GFE at a higher rate, would you see her at her GFE rate or at her regular full service rate? Do you hink that GFE should be all inclusive even if the rate is higher? I ask this because I have realized that youjust can't kiss everyone, and with some bbbj is compleately out of the question.
Inquiring mind want's to know....

BBBJ is out of the question when poor hygene is apparent. It's more prevalent than one would ever think.

I'll bet that we each have our own definition. For me there are two specific activities that MUST be on the menu for me to have a good time. If either one is missing, I am disappointed, no matter how well everything else goes. If both are available, the rest hardly matters. The problem, of course, is that such specifications can not be discussed until the session is underway.

for me, every session should flow smoothly, and having any restrictions would kill the mood.  Especially, if it is something I am into doing.

I can see it now, he reaches in for a kiss and have to stop him and say... hold on buddy, that is not what you paid for, you took the deluxe, with a twist package, but kissing is part of the Super-sucker, tongue whacker getaway, would you like to super-size, only a buck 44 more?  lol

I think most guys want to forget that they paid you (I know I want to) and handing them a menu of GFE and just FS is not condusive to this.

xoxox
Anik

-- Modified on 9/3/2005 4:19:28 PM

But I would not think an 18yr old would be much of a GFE to begin with...your deal breaker appetite would not work as a cross reference in this case..one would need a lifetime to read all of the reviews...and by that time gfe would stand for grandmother friend experience.

-- Modified on 9/3/2005 4:30:45 PM

Kissing is important to me. If I think a provider isn't into kissing, I won't see her.

GFE should be all inclusive even if the rate is higher, but if you know there are guys you won't kiss, say so.  Don't offer to kiss for more.
That sounds a little too merchantile.

There is no one definition of GFE.  So when a provider adv for GFE and the client doesn't get it, it means nothing. One client's taste is different from another. If a provider matches the client's taste, then it's a GFE to him; otherwise, it's not.  It's wrong to narrowly define GFE by the phyisical acts of bbbj,daty or dfk because many true GF won't offer these acts with enthusiasm, if at all. You can probably get all these acts from AMPs for half the rate, but AMP experience is never a GFE to me because of the lanquage barrier and the lack of emotional connection.

I am quoting from the newbee glossary of another board:  "What it(GFE) means to each person is a little different, but to most guys it means a provider that makes the experience seem unrushed, enjoyable, fun, relaxing and more like a "real date than a quick commercial encounter. In practice, though, it seems to depend on chemistry, personality and mutual expectations, as YMMV ("your mileage may vary") for both the provider and client. A general description might be: a multiple hour session that facilitates the experience, mutual cuddling/foreplay, mutual kissing, mutual oral sex (covered or uncovered--depending), and involves either the illusion or reality of passion on the part of the provider. "

Now jeop, after reading those reviews of ME, you all ready KNOW the answer to that  question...lol

Despite the envelope I drop on the table by the door, I *expect* nothing from the lady except an hour of her time. If she kisses me it's because she wants to, not because I paid for it.

If she doesn't, well, lesson learned. If the chemistry is not there, why try to force it. That's not why I am here.

Do you think Ponz tainted your survey or the reply from her about hygene might have been something else?? Actually, he is the classic example according to others ya know. Should he have copied the recent comments made about him and posted here?

It’s about etiquette, to have waiting for a response before injecting satirical commentary. I however didn’t notice who’s response came first…

Hope he doesn’t feel stifled by the “Everything evolves around Ponz” joke – it was a joke right???? Or are you so irritated by him chiming in. Had you not chimed back, he small comment would have gone unnoticed by most.

Of course, I didn't chime in on this subject only so I could watch what others would say. So far, I live on the about the same Philosophy as Lex - you may pay, but unless they like what they see when you walk in the door, your not getting the same as the next or previous (another classic example of definitions – ymmv).

You already know this don't you - LOL, just wanted them to explain why????

It was just a few years ago I started in this hobby and when I hear the use of GFE my first thoughts we how I hoped they didn’t do it – meant I wasn’t getting lucky until the 2nd, 3rd or later date (if ever). As far as I was concerned, all those I’ve see have given more of a PSE. I mean how may of my GF’s would tolerate let alone wanted an hour or more of what I get now?

Damn, Hope I haven’t tainted your survey with my comments – my apologies…

That is the funniest thing I have ever heard!!! As long as it doesnt have bumps, abrasions or look like it has some kind of desease it is lickable!

Or did you mean wierd like bends to the left or up or to the right? Thats cute.....Now you gotta make sure your *peter* is normal looking to pass a test??? Naaaaahhhh

Personally though I dont do well when there is alot of pre-c*m present. I tried to swa@@ow my boyfriends awhile ago and ended up puking all over him......Ever since I have this thing with alot of pre000.  
Sounds dumb but hey, better to be honest than puke all over ya;-D

I pride myself on my GFE status. I believe it speaks to more than do I DFK. GFE for me comes with conversation, sweetness, chatting on the phone and more things that are subjective and personal. Anybody can kiss anyone else. But do her kisses make you feel heat in your pants and heart? Do you get butterflies in your stomach when you know she is coming to see you? When she cums are you glad? Do you want to hold her hand? Do you get weak or smile to yourself when she pouts and makes that cute face when she is upset?
If yes, then she is a TRUE GFE, because she inspires more than Mr. Johnson.


-- Modified on 9/4/2005 2:12:36 PM

Yes, that fits my definition of GFE, but dangerous. She can make you emotionally attached to her, butterfly flying anticipating her coming, or can't stop thinking about her when she's not around.

-- Modified on 9/4/2005 5:15:28 PM

That is why you have to switch and not see the same provider all the time. Providers will play music to give you mind f*ck. Sometimes even after you have been with them the experience stays in your mind and cannot be erased. Providers know this and use these techniques to keep you cumming back.

The providers can also get hooked on clients also. If she and the client click in a special way expect her to call you back or send you email.

I need to stop typing this stuff its making me hard thinking about it.

Vanica, no one should doubt your service as being anything less
than GFE! along with the attributes that you list, you have
forgotten to mention how my heart begins to beat stronger
and my body heats up when I am expecting to spend time with you!
and to think that you have that effect on me, after only one
date! O! take me! if your heart desires!
Lucky for me, I don't reside in the D.C. area, or I would be
prime emotional fodder to become emotionally attached to you!
Kiss
Trooper

I dont care what it looks like, big, small, short fat. Honestly I guess thats why I (and some girls I know too) would rather have some chit-chat before we move to 1st base so we can get a bit relaxed with each other.

Weather you are fat, skinny, tall or short doesnt matter. If we click than the rest comes naturally.

Also it's best not to see alot of *friends*. I know a couple of girls who try to see as many as they can because of the $$$ and in the long run all they really do is burn themselves out and it's not fun anymore.....

It's not supposed to feel like an *OBLIGATION* that you have to be a GFE or else. Either your genuinely a kisser ect. or your not....Not any fun at all if you have to FORCE yourself to be what your not....