Some number of providers indicate they accept NDAs. Is there a standard form for these documents? I assume these agreements are pretty worthless since you would have to go to court to enforce a violation of the agreement and the court proceeds are public record. I would welcome any provider and hobbies thoughts on NDAs
I wouldn’t say they are worthless since the threat of being sued into oblivion is usually enough to discourage people from violating them. However, I would imagine for them to be legit both parties legal names would need to be on it which I’m sure both provider and hobbyist would be hesitant to divulge. It is also my understanding that they need to be worded very specifically in order to hold up in court, so something “you can’t tell anyone about our encounter” probably wouldn’t be enough.
I'm not even sure if a court will enforce a contract for non-disclosure of illegal services. Plus if you go to court, it will all become public knowledge, not only what she says you did. She likely won't even show up. Her assets will likely be mostly likely be hidden and cash anyway.
If you think you need a non-disclosure you shouldn't be in the hobby.
Most girls just say this for clout, very few if any have actually ever seen an NDA Let alone signed one for a celeb/famous client
lol. You're obviously unaware of how many pro athletes out there call the girls.
NDA for providers are usually kind of tricky because contracts that goes against public policy are usually void. However, with the right language and careful maneuvering it is possible to have it enforceable.
I think you nailed it. Legal documents have to be properly worded, and done just right. I don’t think standard forms would do. Also, we can see many instances where NDAs are violated in the news. So…..ymmv?
Exactly! I'm so proud to tell my mom she didn't waste her money on law school. Just need to figure out how to break it to her...
You can be proud that you decided on a more reputable, and admirable career. I once thought I wanted to be a lawyer, but after one trip through a courtroom, I decided I really wanted to be a cowboy or astronaut. One should play to one’s strengths, and have a clear conscience.
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Me too!!! 🙋🏼♀️👩🏼🎓
And @ladywhistledown is spot on. The wording is key and varys greatly from state to state. For ease of enforcement, they would need both parties "legal names." which may be problematic. Regarding subject matter which is against public policy, That is relatively easy to draft around. Of course, exchange of sexual services for money in nearly every jurisdiction in the United States would be an unenforceable contract, but your NDA is only going to cover speaking or communication to third parties about the sexual encounter itself regardless of nature. I would need to think a little more closely and maybe do some research to see whether recitations regarding the nature of the sexual encounter within the NDA would be dispositive - probably not, but also probably jurisdiction dependent.
The other thing to think about when creating any set of contractual or legal duties is the potential for recovery on any judgement to enforce them. Most girls in this industry don't have significant assets enough to make enforcement of the contract worthwhile. Well known adult performers and a few outlier classic providers aside, there's probably no benefit to the client to get an NDA other than peace of mind.
But for sure, it is a clout thing.
BTW - I accept and will draft NDA's. 🤣🤣🤣
But at some point in my life i learned contract law. If i recall correctly, the contract cant protect you if illegal services are involved. Its more of a clout thing as mentioned earlier.
If celebs or athletes are having these girls sign, these girls would need to show and copy their legal identification as well.
I know a few former pornstar ts that used to brag about fucking Charlie Sheen and claimed they signed ndas so they couldnt talk about it. That certainly didnt age well.
... part of the fantasyland to heighten the illusion of status.
... my take is that contracts involving consideration for the conduct of illegal acts or products are void, unenforceable. But if the contract simply involved conduct relating to providing an escort somewhere or modeling in private that's not illegal. Given the contract specified the conduct of services to be provided, dates, location and the contract's duration, and was supported by identification & signature, the plaintiff would still be required to prove he/she suffered damages that were caused solely or partially by the escort/model's participation in divulging the plaintiff's identity within the term of the contract. Then if judgment was for the plaintiff, there would still be the question of how deep the defendant's pockets were to make the whole ordeal worth pursuing, let alone the possibility that by taking legal action the defendant wouldn't be damaging him/herself even more than if the rumors were just allowed to blow over (pun intended). LOL