"I'm not a prostitute."
It comes up quite often during chatter about meeting. Maybe my no-nonsense, let's get it out there approach draws that response. But, as experienced guys know, there's too many kitties and not enough time. I typically say something to the effect that a gentleman doesn't like mixing intimacy with compensation any more than a lady. Or, I say, look if we meet, and decide to play, I'd be happy to help with the cell phone bill. I had a recent (older and foxy SB) say she was a shoe addict. Prada and Gucci. I said, I'd think about buying her a left one or a right one....Her, "I am not a prostitute"
Me, "That's good, because I am not looking for a prostitute, you aren't a woman who hates sex though, right?"
Her, "Oh no, of course not"
Me, "Don't worry, I will never offer you money in return for sex, but I hope that if we "click" things just progress naturally, don't you?"
Her, "I am so wet right now"
One of the first rules of sales, when hearing an objection. Isolate the objection, agree with it and then overcome it. Asking leading questions is a great way to guide the conversation. The goal is not to "win the argument" the goal is to get laid.
This is excellent, practical advice! You are wise in the ways of women Sir, and salesmanship as well!
I believe that the real answer might not be what a gentleman wants to get into every time it comes up. Rather, you have to judge the person you're talking to and address them holistically, or pragmatically, if you will.
But, really, the MO for a prostitute is in fact different from what is happening on a site like SA, where a different sort of "screening" is taking place, on both sides. We all know what differences exist. I would highlight the fact that a deeper "connection" is available, whether pursued or not, than with an escort. I endorse what Coach has written about this aspect on other threads this summer.
Some women might want to consider these distinctions, and others not. In the end, the cash nexus is still there, and it's the rationale why I've read the public (in magazines, blogs, etc.) SB narratives with the bottom line that "we're still sex workers".
FWIW, the fact that GF and spousal relationships always have a money component makes these very blurry lines in my opinion. Social acceptability of blurred lines is changing, or not so much?
Would the woman have sex with you if she wasn't being paid?
If the answer is no, then...
She is having sex with you for money!
Spin that any way you want in order to get your deal done...
Most millennials dont like face to face confrontations. So I always have the conversation about money and sex via text. When we do meet its to see if one of us is mot somebody they could have sex with.
This is exactly right.
You have to remember who you're talking to. Millennials are hooking up with tinder constantly. Millennial women don't have the weird shame-y take on enjoying sex that previous generations had. "Friends with benefits" are a real, and somewhat normal, thing. "Netflix and Chill" is 2017's "Want to come up for some coffee?".
My M-O has been be very upfront about the FWB aspect of the arrangement. They'll read between the lines and understand that unless FWB includes benefits, aka bedroom shenanigans, there's no money for them to make. I've put it plainly as "I don't pay to have just friends" or "I'm not going to pay you to eat a dinner I also paid for".
however, it strikes me that a good response might be something like: That's fine, but do generous men make you feel sexy?
It's all nuance.
That one was actually pretty good. lol
I copyrighted "Go Fuck Yourself!!!" several years back as you might recall, (you being the non lawyer who did the paperwork) for all the good it did me. I still haven't received a single dime in royalty payments. Quite the contrary, all my demands for payment have been met with same three word response "Go Fuck Yourself!!!" lol
I hope you have a better lawyer than I did. lol
It reminds me that your bill is way past due.
I might have to send it to collection if I can find some outfit dumb enough to take it on.
(still not a bill collector)
I'll tell you what, you can have a HUNDRED percent of all the royalties I have collected since 100% of nothing is still nothing.
Maybe you can find a collection agency that will work on contingency too. Then we can all laugh on our way to the poor house together. lol
I will concede you did a great job defending me against Priapussy, but you still failed miserably in the countersuit, once again 100% of nothing is nothing, which I am pretty sure is also Pri's net worth.
although not knowing the lady in question, one could always slowly rehash the stuff SA puts out on their blog: (1) that you are, of course, not paying for sex, but merely financing the "relationship," (2) because she has a job or other interests, there's no way she could be into prostitution as a business, and finally (3) she is obviously very selective in her choice of potential SD's - not something a prostitute would be concerned about.
...otoh, logical and SB's are something of an oxymoron.
Was just looking at the website of a potentially interesting new provider in my area, and saw in her blog section that she was an SB who decided to go pro:
Her two main reasons for turning pro? Sugaring is unsafe for the SB due to the lack of screening, and "unsanitary" because nearly all the SDs expect bareback.
Wow - amazing read...almost want to invite over here to post her thoughts!
She's obviously a bit bitter, but some nice insight for what guys ought not to do/say!!
She is a $500 hour hooker in MN of all fucking places. Why you would spend more than about 15 seconds on her is beyond me.
Her "reasons" are bullshit. Her real reasons are that no SD with even half a brain would give her $500 for an entire evening, much less an hour. My guess is that she is a pro who decided to try being an SB and found out just how little money she could command in the Sugar Bowl and now is crying sour grapes.
YOU might find her "potentially interesting" I find her delusional.
I said _potentially_ interesting. $500 is a little too high for Minnesota, even if she did anal (and she doesn't). Another problem is that she is quickly racking up reviews, but most are from guys with only 1 or 2 reviews. But I wouldn't describe her as delusional. She is an attractive young blonde who figured out that being a pro pays better than being an SB. If she was charging $400 an hour, I would give her a try.
Just like to see what SB's feel about the bowl. You will note that I said "she seems bitter."
AFAIK, SB's never post over here, so in her case, it's nice to dissect her mini-rant and see how it might be used to my benefit when interacting with real potential ladies. Thought it was a good summary of all the helter-skelter crap you can skim from individual profiles.
Depending on whether you are in "tree" or "flat" mode it can be difficult to determine who is replying to who. In this case I was NOT replying to you, I was replying to Vinny and if you will re read "his" post, you will see he used those very words "potentially interesting"
TER's new format can be rather confusing and people get mixed up all the time about who is talking to who around here, so just remember that just because a post is directly below your in "flat" mode, that doesn't mean the person is replying to your post.