I used SA in the past (good experience). With covid, I've spent more time with the site and have had some fun - both in person and with the quirkiness of the dialogue. Some highlights:
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- BCD with a 26 yr old PHD student / hot but a weird personality (a couple dates)
- BCD with a 22 yr old curvy coed - we shared some messages and ultimately I told her that I enjoyed curvy women (i.e. few extra lbs.) since I found them all to be soooo submissive in private (it was all b/s banter). Her reply: why don't you come over? I did. Delivered as promised; no repeat.
- a 19 yr old who I only contacted since we went to the same university. When I asked her if she ever had a sd before, she responded and basically said that while she was not a virgin, she really had more exp. with toys than anything other but she added that she was fully experienced with bj's. WTF? I could only laugh as I mentally thought of all the 19 yr olds I tried to date when I was 19. The conversation was a little different then.
- a 28 yr. MD who was finishing her residency. She was interesting and hot but her career path had been so overwhelming, she had no real comfort socializing. It got complex quick. She analyzed every word in my messages. I took it no further but I honestly felt bad for her.
- Probably 4 or 5 others who got upset with me since I wouldn't drop everything to meet (obviously nothing but a money search on their end).
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It's been fun, weird and like others say, an effort. No doubt, there is an amazing opportunity here with the 18 to 22 yr old young ladies in particular. However, is that young age range really viable for a older man (55+)? So here's a question or two I have.
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- Does everyone use their real birthday in their profile? If so, presumably a sb looks at the profile and sees an age of 50 or 60 or whatever. If you profile ages says 60 or 65 or something older - do the younger ladies have interest or do they stay away? They all have been age ranges for the men they are searching for but in reality, are they comfortable in person with a man who is much older? Saying it is easier than meeting with someone your grandfather's age, I think.
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- For those who enjoy the very young ladies (18 ~ 22 for example) - where do you meet? I feel would feel uncomfortable having her at my place for a 1st date and the hotel thing is seemingly so weird for her or I walking in together. Appreciate any thoughts.
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- Does anyone have any exp. returning to the site with a different profile. I started all of this as a shot in the dark with no thinking. I am not considering starting over with a new slate. Any thoughts?
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So thanks. Lastly, I should apologize to all of the other sd's out there. If you have experienced a significant drop-off in the number of women from Venezuela who have been messaging you, I can explain. I'm around now and they all have flocked to me. They can't get enough. Be safe.
Taking your questions in order:
Is 55 viable? Yes, 55 is viable for attracting *some* 18-22yos. My profile shows 55.
Real birthday? I don't use my real birthday, but it's only a few months off (just because why give the site my actual birthday?).
Does 55 scare them off? I usually let a lady approach me, at least with a favorite if not a message. But the younger ones don't approach as much so I have to do the approaching if I want them. It takes more work to find a younger one I'm interested in being with, and they do ghost or flake significantly more often than girls even 3-5 years older. I think some of the ghosting/flaking is because at the moment of truth of actually getting in the car or whatever, they get weirded out by meeting someone so much older. OTOH, I've had some amazingly mature young ones who view the whole thing as an adventure and seem to actually take comfort in doing something kinda scary with someone they're convinced is mature, experienced, and who is going to take care of them and make them feel special. Or maybe they think someone our age is more likely to "sweep them off their feet." Who knows? I find it takes considerably more messaging to get a younger girl to that stage of comfort.
Where to meet? I've almost always gone BCD on the first meet (if we go BCD at all). I've made some exceptions but not before discussing expectations pretty clearly. It's worked well for me to take her to a fancy restaurant that there's no way she'd be affording by herself. A real treat for her. If it really bothers her to be seen with me, it's probably not going to work. Same thing with a fancier hotel or room than she would go to on her own. I've found it helps to make friends with a waiter or two who knows exactly how to treat us and even not to card her if she wants a drink (I've never asked for that, it's just been done for me). One waiter, when I was with two 19yos at dinner, has even offered me a "room with more privacy" the next time we were at his steakhouse but I haven't been able to take him up on that. When meeting at the hotel, or just going to the hotel, I always just meet her and walk her up and act like "of course I'm meeting this girl and walking her up because that's what a gentleman does." If she wanted to come up by herself, though, I would let her.
I did have one date where we agreed to a fancy lunch at a fancy place and then BCD. But she didn't like the restaurant when she arrived because it was "too open." I was ticked, but stayed on target and got us into a place around the corner with a more private table. She still didn't like it very much, but nevertheless she was naked in my bed in less than two hours.
A few times, especially for lunch dates, she's changed her mind beforehand and said something like, "Is it ok if we just skip the restaurant and meet at your hotel?" 
And once they become a regular, they usually don't need the fancy meal anyway.
Special note: Some of these 18-22yos don't own decent enough clothes to wear to nicer establishments without embarrassing you. Some of them know this and some don't. That has to be managed if you go the fancier route.
I doubt I'd use the site if 18-22yos were the only offerings because they are more work, but when they approach me first, or if I see a particularly spectacular one, it's worth it.
A lot of truth here. Especially about clothes lol
I prefer to date the youngest women on SA. I'm a few weeks away from my 74th birthday. I always post my actual age. There's a percentage of young women who seriously prefer dating older guys and think we are very hot, sexy, attractive, etc. I do not know why this is so, only that it is. So I simply accept this reality happily and tell em straight up how old I am and give them a chance to find me. It's true that many young women refuse to date "grandpas" but others truly prefer them! If a girl's profile does not make her age preferences clear, I simply ask in my first message how she feels about the age gap. I let them self select. There are some girls who truly prefer older guys, so why not attract them?
I always ask the girls to exchange IDs with me. I need proof they are over 18, obviously. And I feel that by offering proof of my own identity, which they can snap a pic of and send to a friend, I'm establishing my bona fides. I'm a real gentleman, not an axe murderer hiding behind a false identity. Thus they are going to find out about my true age anyway, so lying about it upfront is not a good plan.
I always offer to meet for our first coffee date in a public venue. I never use fancy restaurants. I prefer a low key cafe where she and I are both comfortable. As for where to go BCD, I agree with you that hotels/motels make me feel creepy and conspicuous. And while I sometimes do invite an established trustworthy SB to my home, I never do on a first date. My solution to this dilemma, as many regulars here already know (and are probably sick and tired of hearing about) is to use my RV. I'll drive the motorhome to a convenient location, the date will meet me there, and we have a cozy venue for a private rendezvous. If the walls could talk, they'd have many lurid tales to tell of the many, many delightful escapades I've enjoyed in that RV!
But returning to the Age question, I seem to do quite well with the youngest SBs. In 2019 I dated 2 wonderful 18yo SBs, (as well as many who were a bit older). One was a curvy beauty, one was a tiny girl still in high school. Last year I found an 18yo who was into bondage. She declined the coffee date and wanted to get to the good stuff right away on our first meeting! And this year is off to a promising start as well. Yesterday I had a lunch date with another very tiny 18 yo girl. We hit it off and she texted me today asking when we can get together for some fun. These are just a few of the younger ones I'm mentioning in order to drive home the point. Don't lie about your age! There's simply no need.
As for returning to the site with a new profile, I know it's a strategy that works for some guys, but I never do that. My profile contains some pictures and text that seem to be a winning formula for me, often eliciting favorites and messages from SBs who love something I wrote or who loved something about one of my pictures. So I never change it.
I agree with Sweetman on almost everything.
Except I’m 47...but I think abt that 50 age “line” from time to time. I work hard to stay fit on an amateur basis— don’t do anything considered professional (not even trainer) but keep my BMI around 23-24 and toned enough that a family member said I must be going for a part in “Legends of the Fall.” Looking good is for my ego rather than impress SB but I figure it can’t hurt that I stay fit and have all my hair. Also I do civvie dating too. I have no illusions that they come for the $ but I presume the icing on the cake of the whole idea that it always like they could be dating me for real.
I reached and passed that benchmark well over a decade ago and it didn't bother me for a minute. I am pretty sure I celebrated by fucking five different hookers that day.
I know "some" guys get embarrassed by a huge age difference, but it has never bothered me. Just yesterday I spent the night with my 22 year old GF, not hooker, not SB, but actual GF and we got drunk and spent the night at a hotel instead of her house and when we checked out in the morning she was still wearing her little "whore dress" a tight little red number that really did look VERY slutty, lol
She was so embarrassed about the "walk of shame" in the morning and especially while we were waiting for the valet to bring my car around, so gentleman that I am, I said VERY loudly "TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS???!!!" and acted like I was giving her money. My arm is still black and blue ROFL.
I have to admit, we do have a 40 year age difference and she is VERY hot, and I know most old guys would be worried sick that a bunch of strangers would think that they had spent the night with a hooker, but I quite frankly kind of get off on it. I would be MUCH more embarrassed to be seen leaving a hotel with an "age appropriate" women, I would absolutely die of shame if one of my friends were to see me with a woman anywhere near my own age. I occasionally do date women in their late 30's which is over a 20 year age difference as I am 62, but most of the time when dating a thirty something people treat us like a married couple, not like an older man with a younger woman.
Of course I agree...
I'll be crossing over to 60 later this year. I have never felt embarrassed being seen in public with a younger woman. Instead, I thoroughly enjoy the look on other guy's faces as I cuddle up with a spinner on my arm while they are trying to ignore the 50-ish, wrinkled hag complaining that he's staring while they wipe their hot-flash-stained pits with a tissue.
In 2018, I took my SB, an AA built like Beyoncé on a 17-day cruise around Australia. On the 3rd day of the cruise we met a group of 4 Aussie couples in the 60-70 age range at the ship pub. They invited us "Yanks" to hang with them and we were happy to do so. At one point, my SB and one of wives went to the bar to get the table a round of drinks, while the other three wives went to the shops next door. It took less than 5 minutes before one of the guys asked me how old my "girlfriend" was. When I told them she was 25, they cheered, called me a "Dawg" and give me fist bumps all around the table. For the rest of the cruise, I never paid for drink when I was hanging out with this group.
Guys understand. They are not shocked. They do not think less of you. They wish they WERE you.
Life is good
The Cat
And some of the youngest SBs enjoy flaunting the age gap as much as we do! I've had several experiences where I was out in public with a girl 50 years my junior, who noticed some stares we were getting and immediately ramped up the snuggles and heavy eye contact with me, even kissing me, just to put those people in their place!
I would like to quote mrfisher who spoke of being out and about with younger women. In response to various looks from others he would volunteer, "She's my parole officer."
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(I'm pretty the story was from mrfisher but I can't find the post. I think it was about regular dinner dates with Providers, not a SB arrangement.)
I reached and passed that benchmark well over a decade ago and it didn't bother me for a minute. I am pretty sure I celebrated by fucking five different hookers that day.
I know "some" guys get embarrassed by a huge age difference, but it has never bothered me. Just yesterday I spent the night with my 22 year old GF, not hooker, not SB, but actual GF and we got drunk and spent the night at a hotel instead of her house and when we checked out in the morning she was still wearing her little "whore dress" a tight little red number that really did look VERY slutty, lol
She was so embarrassed about the "walk of shame" in the morning and especially while we were waiting for the valet to bring my car around, so gentleman that I am, I said VERY loudly "TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS???!!!" and acted like I was giving her money. My arm is still black and blue ROFL.
I have to admit, we do have a 40 year age difference and she is VERY hot, and I know most old guys would be worried sick that a bunch of strangers would think that they had spent the night with a hooker, but I quite frankly kind of get off on it. I would be MUCH more embarrassed to be seen leaving a hotel with an "age appropriate" women, I would absolutely die of shame if one of my friends were to see me with a woman anywhere near my own age. I occasionally do date women in their late 30's which is over a 20 year age difference as I am 62, but most of the time when dating a thirty something people treat us like a married couple, not like an older man with a younger woman.
Ofc GaG, you are me in 15 years— except for having banged a number of women that I will not attain at my run rate! I would also die with shame if anyone saw me with a woman (except my ex-ps wife) who was near my age.
Even in my late 40s, when I think about my lineup I would be surprised if any two SB add up in age to my own. I enjoy the requested shopping trips to the mall, where we get stares walking around the food court lol. I love how uncomplicated they are. They usu have puppies not kids.
I find younger women are cheap dates except for the shopping lol... one SB in her thirties was trying to justify her higher allowance request by saying the young girls I usually date don’t have her “older woman” maintenance needs. Lmao.
The one downside is some need some training In BCD unless they’ve been semi-pro (Dancers and certain camera) or outright pro.
I always tell the truth about my age, my baldness, my skinniness, my nerdy looks. I'm not trying to marry these girls, just fuck them for money. I let them self-select. You can always bag most of them for the right price.
Your post is interesting and something I’ve wondered about. A couple of years ago I tried a couple of SD sites. I showed my age as 50. I was 62 at the time. No ine ever guesses my real age. The SBs weren’t as experienced personality wise and romantic wise as the TER girls but I had fun. It used to be that young girls didn’t know what they were doing. Now a days with Internet porn, the young girls watch the porn, are wilder and full of kink.
Don't overthink this.
I recently had a conversation with one of my newer SB's. She casually mentioned meeting a guy who was way to old for her to date because he was over 35! LOL She's 24 and I am 59. I chuckled at this as she returned to blowing me and putt my hands on the back of her head..."push my head down, Daddy, I need to this dick in my throat." Of course I obliged - for a long, long time.
A POT SB knows what she is signing up for - spending "quality" time with men who are well older than them. Some are fine with, and even enjoy, going out, travel, living an expensive lifestyle they cannot afford - and getting laid by a guy 2 to 3 times older then she is. Some are happy, or at least willing, to just to have sex for allowance, but are not interested or actively do not want, the non-BCD time. I find the 'Bang and Bail' arrangements don't last as long, which for me is sad, but for others here, it may be perfect.
Where to meet? Depends on many factors. But mostly it's a factor of your strategy. Are you looking for dating & fucking or just fucking? The former suggests you go a bit slower and plan out nice meetings in nice places. The latter suggests you confirm you can meet now (or soon) and she can be on her way in one or two hours, cash in hand. You need to gauge her motivations to steer in the best direction for each POT.
Use your fake or real info? This can also depend on your goals. Ultimately, lying can bite you in the ass. But if you need to insulate your sugar time from your SO or work/family life, you will need to be careful with what and when you disclose personal info.
New profiles? My profile is at least 10 years old. I have updated it along the way, and have hidden from time to time. But that's me. What advantage do you expect to get from posting a new profile?
Finally, flip the script: If she only wants to be banged by hard-body beefcake guys she can find a stud at a club, rave or bar in about 2 minutes, and wouldn't be on the site. So no, don't sweat your age, looks, or even "woke-ness." Be nice, respectful and expose her to things above her pay grade (all things the beefcake cannot do) and she'll appreciate you and suck, er.... I mean stick around for more. I am old and fat, but I listen to their problems, never judge, always encourage and offer advice IF asked for. Then we fuck like bunnies because...
Life is good
The Cat
"getting laid by a guy 2 to 3 times older than she is":
If I'm only 2 times older that her, she's way too old for me.
If I'm 3 times older than her, I'm interested.
If I'm 4 times older than her I'm already in love!
If I'm 5 times older than her I'll be 90! Good to have goals, right?
I did have one SB that must have been uncomfortable with the age difference. We did have sex, though. She came to my house one evening because she was in need of some quick cash. The first hint that she considered me old was when she said she was glad she was the one driving instead of me ... implying that I was too old to drive safely at night. She didn't mean it in an insulting way, that was clearly not her personality. Of course I am not retired yet and drive across town every week day, and had just driven from Minneapolis to New York and back.
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Anyhow, we I suggested later in text that we meet again, she demurred and said she wanted to establish a friendship first before sex ... hun? We already had sex. Oh well. She obviously regretted fucking an old guy. But being so obvious about it was the first and only time. If the other SB's I've seen have issues with older guys, they hide it well.
I'm 70 and I get my fair share of responses. i think it's far better to be honest up front and not disappoint any potential SBs when they see me. I love the sugar bowl.
I seem to get in front of 20-25 yo SBs. Which is great because they’re young, beautiful, soft and hard in all the right spots. I had one last fall who was all that , soccer player and pretty. We met up a couple times and it was great.
Since then I got the I’m stuck in Timbuktu and need money call , I fell for it. Then I’d come to you but I’m need rent help now, did it again. Then she suddenly was in the hospital and needed cash , I stopped. Gave up.
The other day she opened a new convo on SA. we talked then moved it to text. This morning I got the I want to come up but I need cash before I do text. I texted back and just said that’s unfortunate perhaps another time. After an hour I’m told to
Lose her number, we are not a match and I can’t fuck good cause I’m old, to top it off I have lots of SD’s you’re not special.
Hey at my age I don’t promise the best I just promise the help. In her case I wasn’t falling for the same story. I know my game has lost a step or two. I’m ok with that. But why do they need to get angry if you just say no thank you? Ok ramble rant is over.
I don't get that either. I've always been a gentleman about it...I'm sorry but I can't. Or in passing on a POT...best wishes to you, hope you find what you're looking for. Seems like the younger they are, the more likely you'll get gobsmacked with an f you and a put down about how you're old and decrepit and have to pay for it to get any and I'm missing the opportunity of a lifetime. With entitlement comes rudeness I guess. Or maybe it's poor parenting. I've heard all those pleas one time or more too, and it's for sure that if you've bitten once, you'll be hit on again.
I know SBs that have said the same about some their POT SDs that when they said no thank you the POT SD fired off some angry rant about them being a whore, not good enough for them, etc. So it cuts both ways in terms of the insults. But like you, I do not understand the need for it. I had two recently that responded to me initial message which I try to make pertain to their profile (if it has any info in it, lol) that fired off nasty comments about how they would never date someone like me because I'm x, y, or z. Insert your comment do jour.
I only had the insult thing one time. Mostly if they stop responding or don't respond, it means the same thing, without being nasty about it.