How do you handle this. Even thanked me for the appointment and saw friends who charge double what I charge......................UNREAL.

I guess he perceives me as free

this is so stupid. Apparently I am running a charity.

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If you see him again, roll him out into the hallway naked and lock the door.

If a client took back their money that they gave you. Then you are as stupid as you look.

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If I saw you I'd do the same. Shit...

... an alias comes in handy.  

I've done this before.  Twice.  

The first time was several years ago, after a first date with a beautiful young provider.  She pretty much blew my mind (and everything else) and I wasn't thinking clearly.  As I got dressed we made small talk, then I slipped on my jacket, picked up the envelope that was sitting in front of me, put it in the inside pocket of the jacket, and headed for the door. She got this odd look on her face and said, "Uh... uhm..."   I immediately realized what I'd done and pulled the envelope out and gave it to her, my face as red as a beet.  I apologized profusely, and she seemed to shrug it off.

Then a few weeks ago, I was about ready to depart from my ATF's place after an exceptionally great session. We were chatting about such and such, and once again I absent-mindedly picked up the envelope from the counter and started to put it into my pocket.  She caught me, and I did the red-faced apology again.  She thought it was pretty hilarious.

I've also walked out of a session a couple of times with the envelope still in my pocket, but fortunately I or the provider realized it before I'd gotten very far.  

So stupid but innocent stuff like this does happen. I hope you didn't immediately assume nefarious intent in your situation.  It could have been deliberate, but it could have been a (somewhat odd) compliment to your skills and charm.

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ALWAYS and I mean always get the money AWAY before you start the session! It makes me uncomfortable just leaving the money on the table while we do the session. In an outcall put your money in your bag and close your purse and leave it near you. In an incall .. girl you have other rooms besides the room you will be spending the time in so get the donation up front and hide it in the kitchen! Lol you never know.. there's no reason for him to go to your kitchen when his done.

Do you perhaps have "doormat" tattooed on your forehead?

As for outing him, posting his personal info on the public boards is "Verboten" but you can do so on the PO board, and I think you should do just that. On the public boards, you "could" name him by handle on your regional board, but be prepared for a shit storm if you do so. Also keep in mind outing him from behind an alias may not be well received. If you are going to out him on a public board, (by handle only of course) you should do so under your "real fake name" if you want to be taken seriously. This is only the court of public opinion, but even here a person has the right to "face" his accuser, even if it only a virtual face. Your post has the ring of sincerity to it, but if you "out" him from behind an alias I will most likely be leading the charge against you.

remove the words, "money back guarantee" from her website.  Just a suggestion.

Sounds like that may be the problem.

Hey...that crazy LisaLang suggests assaulting the dude. What could possibly go wrong there?  LOL  

What the fuck she plans on doing after he gets up is quite a different matter though.

Hey Lisa, just what the fuck do you plan on doing when the guy who outweighs you by a hundred pounds and who had zero issues trying to steal from you, wakes up PISSED that you tazed his ass? Yeah, this story is going to have a real happy ending, isn't it?

Maybe she plans on just kicking his ass like JLS claims to do? There really is an epidemic of stupid going around this board of late.

how hard it is to maintain an erection after you're been tasered.

Neither one even close to a guarantee. Ladies, please don't listen to Lisa Lang.  

NEVER confront someone bigger and stronger than you bc they stole from you. Yes it sucks he ripped you off but let them go and BL them and tell all your escort friends about him.

Your life is WAY more important than a few hundred or a thousand bucks, isn't it?

Sheez...she really needs to stop giving advice here. She is going to get someone hurt bad.

Did you just watch him do that and not say anything?
Did you not find out until after the fact?
Could it have been an honest mistake like NoYellowEnvelope mentioned?
 

It is possible it was a mistake and one he would gladly rectify. If he isn't willing to correct the issue then you must warn others. This is why blacklist sites exist. Out his ass on several of them. Things like theft of service is exactly why those sites are needed. You ladies must warn each other. Your the best protection you ladies have.

Do not physically confront him as that could end poorly. Some on this board recommend them but in my opinion they aren't appropriate as most guys are stronger then most girls and if you use them to try to get your money back it can end badly. I do recommend women carry them, they are great if he gets physical so you can excape, but not for this.

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you'll find some guys who get better erections after a good jolt

is at best getting your ass kicked, at worst ending up getting yourself, or any woman foolish enough to listen to the likes of you or JLS, killed over a few hundred or few thousand dollars.

If you think our advice is sexist, the same advice is given to johns who have been "ripped off" by ROB's who think the best course of action is to simply "take their money back" by force if necessary. If its a bad move for a guy to physically confront a rip off hooker, its a thousand times worse for a woman to physically confront a man, especially BCD where she has nowhere to run if things get out of hand. DUMB DUMB DUMB, of course we have become accustomed to dumb advice coming from you, this post is mainly directed towards newer providers who might take your advice to heart and end up getting themselves killed by following your "advice"

I think you watch to much TV, when a hundred pound woman gets into a physical confrontation with a 250 lb man the woman loses, PERIOD.

I know that you never saw me. Cause I have not seen anyone from this site since my last review on here.

I too recommend carrying a non lethal means of defense such as a Taser or Pepper spray, but these should be considered "defensive" weapons ONLY, when your very life is in danger and should NEVER be used as an offensive weapon as if things go wrong, as they often do in the heat of the moment, they tend to escalate matters and put your very life in jeopardy.

As far as firearms are concerned, while I am a proud second amendment supporter, it is a very BAD idea to keep a firearm at hand while working in an illegal business. Your chances of ending up in prison rather than jail go up a lot higher than your odds of said firearm saving your life in this line of work.  

Please ladies, use your heads. I don't want to see any of you ending up in the hospital, prison or the morgue. Not even Lisa or any of the other BSC hookers who comment here from time to time.

I won't do that again.

Ask ANYONE in the field of self defense/self preservation and the advice is unless your life is at stake, or you fear severe bodily harm, you give the robber/thief any material thing they wish.

Of course this is common sense but unfortunately for you they don't sell it on QVC.

Go visit the morgue sweetie to see how many woman overpower their male thieves on any given day.

And please, give the "Super Woman" complex a much needed day off. All your doing is endangering women in the biz with your dumbass advice and confusing the shit out of Mr Fissure.

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and not another female monger like lopaw, "she" is the OP who had a "client" steal her money.

Perhaps the time has come for a woman to win this years SPOTY?

Of course there is one possible explanation that does come to mind after taking a quick look at her reviews, Perhaps she hasn't seen a single client at all after reading all of her "glowing" reviews?

First of all, I have been doing this for 19 to 21 years and I know that it's not a mistake when a Hobbyist "Client" grabs the money off of where it is sitting and places it in his/her pocket. The Hobbyist figures that he/she does it on purpose. And as provider......I keep a safe box locked up with the cash in it and the key near by. So, that the Hobbyist does not take the cash back. 9times out of 10 (5% to 25% out of 100%)  the hobbyist feels that he should not have to pay for the sex(As if we are required to just give it up because we need the sex just as much as a man). Just my opinion!!!  
 I've come across men like this more so then none. My suggestion is get a safe box(put the cash in it and hid the safe box) and keep the key hidden where only you'll find it. And later on get a bank account or if you already have one then deposit that cash into the bank account.

No amount of money is worth getting into a physical altercation.  Just let it go.  Money can be easily replaced.

Even Jack's statement is somewhat incorrect.  Even if you think because of their size or looks you can overpower them, I would caution against it.

Are you sure about that grasshopper?

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I don't think you thought this one through. I don't think a  woman should ever put themselves into a position of having to overpower a man that simply wants your money or possessions. I know the advice by experts with carjackers is to give up your car and let the police handle it as your car can be replaced. I think the advice in this case would be the same. You however are much more important than any "thing" and you cannot be replaced. Just one person's opinion.

That's a new one on me.  I've heard of pepper spray made from cayenne peppers and such, but this is the first time I've heard of it being made from regular black pepper.  Or maybe you meant that it's supposed to be used on black guys?

Because your advice, if taken literally is likely to get some poor girl hurt very badly.  

I know even you aren't that BSC, maybe you and JLS should co author a book on how to kick an unruly john's ass, and then rest of us could immediately call for it to be pulled from the shelves. lol

"How To Keep His Balls In Your Purse 101?"  As you know, when you have his balls in your purse his heart and mind will follow.

And I am sorry but its US, along with the self defense experts on one side, and YOU, all by your little lonesome, on the other.

One would think that NONE of the girls taking your side on this issue would give you pause.

Nah, if common sense doesn't do it and experts in the field don't do it then why would your fellow sex workers "crickets" make any difference? LOL

but I would damn sure return to make it right.  I generally have the donation in my key pocket... so I can't get my keys out without finding it.  My preferance is to empty my pockets, just like I do at home, on the corner of her dresser...  so things don't fall out of a pocket & get lost (happened on a civie date).  
The FIRST THiNG out is the donation which will be under my pocket junk...  and will remain on her dresser after I have re-dressed.  I had one gal...  I'd seen a few times but not recently...  who got freaky after the action & swooped in to claim her prize...  That was the only time I've had it questioned.  Admittedly it is old school.      
On first dates, we don't know each other yet & I understand if they want to conduct business first.  Some will not remove the donation & others will.  She is certainly within her rights if that's what she wants to do.  There are a number of places where cash can be put that are out of sight & not in a direct line to the door.    
It's not right for a provider to "Cash & Dash"...  It's also not alright for a client to do it either.  I agree it's unwise to get into a physical confrontation with a larger person, it might be worth trying to challenge him "What are you doing?" before he gets to the door.  You might get between him & the door BUT I would not block it to the extent that he can't go around if he's going to push his way out. (A trip to the ER & injuries could put you out of business for many days.)  
I've heard of theives who actually went into her pocketbook to retrieve the money...  Outrageous!  

I am so sorry that this happened to you.  I'm glad you are safe.

What you "Do" is none of our business, what you tell others to do most definitely is our business as "some" of us really do care what happens to the ladies that read these posts, our rather harsh words at times aside.

Lisa, I know you are BSC, but I don't think that deep down you are a bad person. How would you feel if you were to find out that some new and naïve young lady were to take your advice seriously, attempt to take on a client physically if he tried to "pull something" on her and ended up in the hospital or worse for her efforts. Would you really be able to live with yourself if something like that happened?

The OP doesn't mention envelopes but others do.  So I'm wondering ...

Maybe the client had filled the envelope with Monopoly Money or newspaper. To avoid getting his hostess angry with the fake money, he took the envelope with him on the way out.

If the guy "stole" an envelope of shredded newspaper, it is petty theft at most. (Cutoffs for grand theft vary by jurisdiction, but can be as low as a few hundred dollars.)

If he "stole" newspaper, then the next thing to consider is a charge of "theft of services" but that can get tricky in a court room. To determine the amount of damages, if any, there will be a lot of "he said - she said".

Depending on the gender of the judge, I'd go with, "Your Honor, let HER give you a BJ (DATY) right now and YOU tell ME what it's worth! ... I rest my case.

she could move in with me.  

She's got spunk.  I have to hand her that, but has not yet learned when to abandon a losing position.  I have had to admit I was wrong on occasion when I realized I had not considered all sides of my position.  Maybe on this one, sh should consider doing the same.  It actually makes you more credible in the long run to acknowledge those occasions when you got it wrong, at least it has for me.

want to mention looks.

If a guy weighs twice as much as you, you might get one good punch in, but that will likely be all. This could easily evolve it from a minor physical confrontation to something far worse. I suggest getting yourself a Mace gun (IF legal in your state) for defense, but NEVER for offense. I am very pro-2nd Amendment (with CPL), but I think a provider with an offensive weapon at an incall (or carried outcall) is an accident waiting to happen.

Because if you just give them everything they will leave you alone  
and not beat the shit out of you  
or kill you just because ... thems the rules  
and every douche bag "expert" on here knows that.  

My money is on JLS. She'd beat you like a little drum ...  grasshopper. There are fit women on here who could make most of you soft Weasels cry for you mommies. No wonder you urge them to just give it up. Bigger and fatter does not mean badder.  Many of you "experts" need to go review the "fight science" videos so you can realize just how much damage a human can do to another human.  
 

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When I drop off the envelope, I immediately excuse myself to "wash my hands".  Then I go inside the bathroom, close the door behind me, and actually wash my hands.  I have a good reason for that; I usually take public transit to appointments, and we all know how filthy it can be.  So not only does it give the provider a chance to check the envelope, it also ensures I have clean hands before touching her.  More often than not, I found the envelope already pocketed when coming out of the bathroom.

I don't care what you see in the movies. It's virtually impossible for the average 100 lb woman to generate enough force to take down a 250 lb man, unless she gets lucky with a swift kick to the balls and even then if the man can even get so much as a single hand on her, she's toast. Technique and pressure points are important, but you still have to be able to generate enough force to take someone down, no matter where you hit them, and a couple of self defense classes are not going to give the average woman even a snowballs chance in hell of taking down a man with a hundred pound of body weight on her.

I see JLS has both your brains and your balls in her purse, but both are so fucking tiny, she probably has room for both.

Now please tell the class just how many times you have climbed up from your little scooter and had a physical altercation with a grown ass man? Now if you are saying she could kick YOUR ass, well in that case I'd have to agree.

I heard he is working on the courage (or is it permission?) to finally write that review of JLS. LOL

If we only live that long...

You're neither a "man" nor "grown" grasshopper. Only punks talk shit and you're all talk.  

Your obtuseness is only rivaled by your dim witted and insipid remarks.  

Escalating a situation with a male in a tiny room with only one way out is a one way ticket to a six foot under party where you are the guest of honor and only person in attendance.

The BSC is strong with this one.

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But it's tough to be a bad ass with your balls in some old woman's purse. I suppose that's a big part of why he is angry.  

I guess we can look at it this way, if any of us were forced to trade places with Scooter Boy, we'd be angry too, or we'd simply blow our brains out. I think that sounds like the better option.

You are the only one who thinks you have "brains".  
The rest of us here know you are an insecure, little, joke, Grasshopper.
Yes, we laugh at you because you think people believe your Bullshit - pathetic little boy.  
 

How much did Bruce Lee weigh?

een taking Bullshit lessons from GaG, I see.  
Just because you say it does not mean people believe it.  
 

Especially bullshit posted from  
 Cowards who hide with alias names.  

The ultimate refuge of a pussy who has no real rebuttal.  Weak.

AND Bruce Lee spent 100+ hours a week in the gym so he could generate enough power to take down someone twice his size. Not to mention NOBODY is as bad IRL as Bruce Lee was in the movies, I suppose you think Arnold is bullet proof IRL like he is in the movies too? My God, please start stalking Jake instead of me, I have plenty of other stalker no where near as dumb as you. Jake OTOH likes his stalkers stupid. The two of you would be a perfect fit.

You certainly seem to be stalking me, especially of late.  And you certainly are dumber than a bag of hammers.  In fact, you are too dumb to qualify as one of my stalkers, so please go back to stalking DREW's lame ass.  I'll take fatty and FG any day over your dense attempts at wit.

I think Scooter Boy is still all butt hurt after getting slapped around so many times and he asked to borrow his balls back so he could make one last, feeble attempt at regaining his manhood, epic fail.

For a pedantic putz you really need to learn the difference between "stalker" and "stalkee"  now won't please take SB off my hands for me? He really is more your kind of stalker than mine.

If you go back and check the number of times you've brought my name up lately you'll see how obvious it is that I am your stalkee. Of course I really can't blame you but the least you can do is man up and admit it. It's already obvious to everyone else.

I think is a huge insecurity of that person they are weak on the inside so they act like a jerk and put other people down to hide the little person inside. What do you think, Grasshopper?