Does anyone else find that the higher on the "looks/appearance" scale a provider ranks ... the less appealing they become attitude-wise?

Personally, I find the sweet spot to be those that rank around 8.5

Just hot enough to be hot. But not so hot that they spend half the time staring at themselves in the mirror, snapping selfies that they later post to instagram or whatever the heck else it is they post their self-adoring mugs to.

I will concede that your observation can be true at times  and it can be way too much work trying to feed their egos but when you find a client that thinks they are better than the world is so exhausting as well. I had to fire a 3yr client just today for that very reason. Had to explain to him his degree, good looks and well paying job meant nothing in comparison to my demand for respect. I explained that his constant putting down those with less education, looks or money did not improve his status to me and was actually a turn off and I'd rather go without than spend one more minute even on the phone with him.  

Some people are just out of touch with reality and find the superficial of a greater importance than actual character, however, mine is such that I'd rather have a genuine connection and fun with mutual respect and like than a couple dollars.  

Either type probably won't last long, she because clients will get tired of the bitchy and he because ladies won't put up with condescending ways.

I look for super hot girls with great attitudes and great performance. This is quite easy to find in a town like NYC, if one is willing to do their homework, not so easy in smaller markets.

As for what they do when they are not with me, as long as they meet the above criteria, they can spend ALL their time staring at themselves in the mirror, IDC. Lol

The two hottest providers I've seen have been very down to earth and easy to talk to. Friendly, fun, with no attitude. The provider I scored the lowest had an attitude, but no hotness at all.

There was a provider who used to pop in on the GD forum from time to time. She was very hot, but had attitude up the ass. I almost saw her, but thankfully it fell through.

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Just like many broad generalisations and judgements.

Every individual is different - but can you imagine having your looks, actions and performance in the rack broken down on TER the way these gals are?

It seems natural to me that you would grow some pretty thick bark!! When you penetrate the bark you'll find magic...

In fact, at my in-call I proudly display a one of a kind, hand rubbed Brazilian rosewood trophy case full of awards for my humility.

Funny this topic came up.
I had a request to drive up north ( 2 hr drive) to see a new friend, 2 days ago.  
I replied in the enail: That "it would be a treat for myself," to drive up. Easy for me, since I don't  run An in call.  
 
Once we met and had a glass of wine. I asked: "why didn't he seek a hot female here in LA?"  
Theres more than enough hot little numbers in the "city of angels."

He mentioned what you just said. Besides he likes what my reviews mentioned.  

Everyone is different.
I rather continue to be silly,  
down to earth, caring, attentive to detail and sophisticated.  
Than to be someone I'm not.

Im 5'1 with out heels on.
I enjoy what I do.  
Yet, I'm not the average companion.

I am a woman with 15 pounds over my ideal weight- Which is 120lbs.  
So, i'm not For everyone.

I'm for the few, that appreciates a low volume companion.  
Oxo
Viv  

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Are all your provider review scores, 9 & 10's in appearance?

FYI: My mother, a wise woman, always said to me, "True beauty comes from within."  Thus, I am beautiful!

That's not been my experience at all.
Some women, in any walk of life, get a little full of themselves
But when you think about it if you could control half the human race by just showing a little skin or a flirtatious smile wouldn't you?
Hell, I'd be emperor of the world lol

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I find that the experience of those who are 9 or 10s are better experiences for me than those ranked as less attractive. Maybe I just get off on really beautiful looking girls. Or maybe if they really rock my world I consider them more good-looking than other guys would rank them.

What always DOES turn me off a little when READING the reviews are those where the Performance is ranked even a point or two lower than appearance. Maybe by tending to pass on those I avoid the experience you're describing.

Attitude, for me, makes up a lot of the Performance rating.

Also, I've not come across very many providers that had a poor attitude. Just lucky that way. Or maybe most providers make sure they approach their clients with a good attitude. Just good business to sell it a bit.

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Hi Robbin,

Your mother is wise. However,  

We can't see that "true beauty" one hour at a time when paying for a service to be provided.

I have found the OP to be correct in saying... (especially looks)
comes an attitude.

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" I have found the OP to be correct in saying... (especially looks) comes an attitude."

That is disheartening to hear, but now that I think about it, I experienced the same issues when I used to meet handsome and gorgeous celebrities during my acting career.  There were some men and women, that were on my pedestal, but when I met them...they had dark hearts, and they immediately became ugly in my eyes.

I think the most important thing that beautiful women and handsome men should ALWAYS remember...Looks fade, but a kind heart always shines bright

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I thoroughly enjoy beautiful providers. 10s for looks certainly don't  scare me away. We have tools at our fingertips to find a 9/10 looks with a great attitude. They can be easily separated in reviews from 9/10 providers with lower performance skills or comments showing distance or disinterest. I can easily find that IRL without paying.  

I make every effort to select wisely and really don't remember seeing anyone more interested in their hair than me. LOL To the contrary, I've found most to be charming and not full of themselves.

I pay for performance and beauty is an attainable fringe benefit. The reward is found knowing what I want and being consistent going about finding it.  

I also believe "beauty" is a relative term. I cast no aspersions on how a woman feels about herself or how she is seen by men.  

What I have found interesting is if and when I PM someone and compliment them on their beauty, most thank me, chuckle and play it down. That is such a turn on (right, noonergirl) lo

and so I haven't made a point to see them as performance is what is important to me.

But the couple of gals I've seen with that high score were great in terms of attitude, so I can't confirm your thesis from my limited experience.

And, I've met a few gals whose looks were just OK but their attitude left a lot to be desired

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People say I'm pretty  etc. but my personality outshines my beauty. I love loving and the thrill of making that person believe 100% I'm their girlfriend. Those hot hot girls might just be doing it for the money. That's why they seem like they have attitudes, it's because they don't enjoy it As much as others like me.  

I enjoy this work, I love kissing passionately and really showing how good a chemistry we have, that's why I do it. Don't get me wrong, the money is great but if I'm not having fun that money means nothing. Because sometimes this work can make some feel empty and jade people

Your boobs and ass probably don't hurt your cause either. ha ha!

My two DC faves are 10s ( well , actually one is based in DC the other in a honorary local as DC is her primary tour location and her reviews are linked to DC )   and they have great  " tudes ". So does my UTR fave who is absolutely gorgeous.
Plus in the last few months I've met two new 10s and they too have great attitudes toward their clients and profession.
In fact I've been amazed that none of the ladies I'm referring to are not all full of themselves.

Not saying I've never encountered what you are talking about but my experience does not reflect you generalization .

Tempted to name names , but not sure if that would be allowable by T

i have had no problem finding incredibly beautiful women who are also incredibly grounded and very genuine and down to earth.

i've never given up high standards for great looks to achieve chemistry...

au contraire, the higher-ranked a lady is on the charts, more probable that she has a great attitude and ability to connect with her clients.  elsewise she wouldn't be getting such high scores.

in my past hobby career i've only seen a handful of women whom i wouldn't describe as knock outs, and believe me, i only saw them once.

and only in my early days of hobbying have i run into women with attitudes.  i learned really quickly how to research and find the women that like to make a man feel good about himself, rather than the women that are charging a guy to allow him to be in her company.

i might be influenced by living in los angeles; here we have a plethora of gorgeous gals who happen to love what they do and the men they do it with.

viva le hobby!

but you are GORGEOUS robbin!!!

I have seen lots of 9's and 10's with great attitudes.

you are gorgeous naomi!  i'd love to spend time with you!

because your posts indicate you have a great attitude, too, and combined with your looks that must make for a great provider experience!

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"You are not in my league."

Would the appropriate response be to tell her that people who feel so highly of themselves are not in MY league?

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and you couldn't be more correct.  The two I know best are as sweet and cool as can be

I'd love to know the 2 new ones  . . you, my friend, have excellent taste in women

PM if you like

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Was wondering when our Rome was going to sweep in and compliment the new Juliet.

I still beat you to the punch though. You're slipping in your old age, gramps. ha!

If inappropriate some hall monitor can report me and get a few free VIP days. If that happens and this post is removed I'll PM you.

Pretty sure you guessed accurately  

Chloe Malinina
Sasha Stolin
As far as the UTR lady I'll not violate her trust.

The new ladies I've recently met are Dahlia Tango & Anastasia. Both absolutely sizzling.
Not sure if you'll have much sense meeting Dahlia but I think Anastasia has a DC tour scheduled this month.

All of these ladies have the knack of making their client feel like they  ( the client ) are the 10s and they're appreciative that you've book them.

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well i am older than you.  but you know the joke:

a young bull and and an old bull were standing on a hill, looking down at a herd of cows in the valley.

the young bull says, "hey, let's run down the hill and f*k us one of those cows!"

the old bull considers this for a moment, and then turns to the young bull.  "nah," he says.  "let's walk down and f*k 'em all."

performance over appearance, both need to be well into the upper scoring levels.

Plus 1 EOM

You go ahead and have all the cows you want.

I'm already getting the milk for free.

I've found there's less correlation between perceived beauty in the hobby and being stuck-up than there is in the so-called real world.  Even in the latter, the correlation was there, but only with certain people.  

Several of the ladies I've seen across the years in the hobby were total eye candy, and/or were famous, yet were totally real in bed and beyond.  

You are reminding me of one my favorite John Lennon lines...You need to free your mind instead.

Thank you for your reply, and I like the way you think!  Better to round the score up, than down.

"I had a civie date tell me recently ... ""You are not in my league.""

I would have told the pompous bitch, "You're right, I'm in the major league!"  Then, I would have immediately ended the date.

I had just traveled halfway cross the country for said date. Or I would have. Trust me. ha ha!