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High end non reviewed providers?
hammerhead896 44 Reviews 1626 reads
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For those of you who visit with higher end like 1,000 and up per hr girls who do not show reviews how does that go for you? I am looking at some and just wonder that without having anything to go by before meeting do your expectations get met especially at the high rates. Some of these girls are the most expensive out there and they of course do not even want you to ask if they offer bbbjs or anal as part of their donation.

Hope to hear positive feedback?

RespectfulRobert20 reads

I have been very fortunate this year as when several of those women were on my radar, I had another provider, who knows what I like, vouch for them. That is huge. It has worked out every time that has happened. But really, that vouch is just in lieu of a review, and works similarly to easing my mind paying that large sum of money, but obviously not exactly the same.  
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The point is, I wasn't going in blind. If a girl doesn't have quality reviews, from reviewers I trust, or a trusted guy or girl friend cant vouch for them, then I wont see them. Capability with me, both sexually and personality, are greatly important to me and I am not going to gamble with that type of money on the line.

John_Laroche17 reads

as a mid-priced provider with no reviews and hidden menu.  
Based on your recent reviews, you've seen providers across a wide price range. Was the $1,000 experience really twice as good as the $500?  
OTOH, if she has a social media presence and pro website, and you can afford the sunk cost if things don't go well, just go for it. Just don't surrender PII if you have any intention of writing a review. Good or bad.

of a poster's question, but I will make an exception this time and ask back:

 
Why would you consider seeing an unreviewed gal who wants $1,000+ for an hour when there are many at that price range who have lots of reviews?

 
I could sort of see going for a much lower priced gal because the risk is not all that great, (putting aside personal safety and LE concerns, for now) but unless you are so rich that $1,000 is a mere pittance, I just don't get it.

 
So, to answer your question, no, I have not seen a gal at that price point (or for that matter pretty much any price point putting aside visits to MPs) who didn't have reviews, but I have seen a handful of these high priced gals that did have very good reviews, and they lived up to their word.

RespectfulRobert18 reads

Why? As you astutely point out, with so many women charging 1K+ now with great reviews, why risk it on non reviewed providers? The OP doesn't have to answer of course, but it is the pertinent question. Great post Mr Fish!

The OP never specifically stated he wanted to see them. He said he was looking at them and wondering why others would. Could just be curiosity? Idk though. Maybe he is?

I played in this area seriously for several years.  For me to spend $1000 per hour and up had to come with great reviews.  
I met some great ladies and have no regrets. End of the day, I have had many of my best times with a  $ 500 or below provider. I do understand the ego boost from being in public with a model type provider.   For me a Vegas trip is a perfect example of when a high dollar hot girl would be a great investment.    

Those who price high and don’t allow reviews, they do it because of their looks. They can be some of the most beautiful providers there are. But service wise, YMMV. I haven’t gone to 1k, but I have seen some of them on their way up, and did pay $700 when that was the 1k equivalent.  

 
The few ladies I did see were incredibly hot and had a couple of reasons why they didn’t want reviews. One was they felt it was invasive in providing so much detail about their sexual encounters. The second was because they admittedly were YMMV providers. What they did with one client, they may not do with another. They said they felt that allowing the type of reviews TER does created expectations. They didn’t want one client expecting something because he read in a review that she did so and so with another client.

 
The few times I took a gamble, I did so with ladies who had Twitter accounts. They actively shared their personalities and recent pics. And what was even more key to me is that were also actively engaged with other providers, some of whom I knew had good reviews. The fact that they had solid friends in the community gave me hope they would be providing good service at a higher price point. And, it worked out well for me each time.

 
The moral here, however, is look for something else that gives you reassurance. An ad and a high price and nothing else to go by whatsoever is a risky pill I would not want to swallow.

Posted By: Zeel
Re: It’s About their Looks
Those who price high and don’t allow reviews, they do it because of their looks. .
No. They do it because they can.

This may sound brutal but I have met several £3k/3hr women over the years who were plain in looks. In fact I’d go as far as to say less than 30% were an 8 or above.  
What they had however was confidence in what they did have to offer and what they were and were not willing to accept for that offering as part of a full package. Whatever people think of that; it sells.  

You would be surprised how many men specifically choose providers that do NOT have reviews. These are guys looking for ‘low noise’ providers. They are not picking women who are all over social media, actively posting on here or have reviews.

What you see in person and what they post in their ads is not the same. I’m sure plenty turn out to be 8s. But if you’re spending that much after looking at a picture of an 8, you must be high. The expense ads all show thin model like women. But we all know what you see in an ad isn’t always what you get.

Not everyone is paying for looks.

That post has been done to death though….

Posted By: Zeel
Re: It’s About their Looks
What you see in person and what they post in their ads is not the same. I’m sure plenty turn out to be 8s. But if you’re spending that much after looking at a picture of an 8, you must be high. The expense ads all show thin model like women. But we all know what you see in an ad isn’t always what you get.

I mean of course not. But when there are great providers at reasonable prices, what prompts one to pay say $1500? I can't think of anything she would do that you couldn't find for less. But maybe she is hot af? I guess maybe a porn star?
Idk, maybe it's just me.

Steve_Trevor12 reads

for a celebrity, e.g. to do some “furious jumping” with Emily Stone. But that ain’t gonna happen, for all kinds of reasons.

Hahaha, well, I mean Emma Stone would fetch a lot more than that, but yeah she is not doing it. The only non porn star celebrity that might enter this business is some reality or has been C list types. And, I am sure, some would pay a little more for a lady who was on The Flavor of Love even if she got eliminated in the first episode.

The only non porn star celebrity that might enter this business is some reality or has been C list types
There were twins who appeared on CBS’s Big Brother that were rumored to follow that career track.

420Smoka4Eva15 reads

Plenty of rich people can live more modestly. They could have smaller houses, drive less expensive cars and eat at modest restaurants. However they live in large houses in expensive neighborhoods, drive luxury car brands and eat a Michelin rated restaurants. This dynamic also plays out with providers. Some people with money like to pick the most expensive option.

Absolutely. If you have more money to throw around, you are more likely to do it. In the cases you described, they are throwiing more money at bigger and better houses, cars, and restaurants. I would think when they pick the more espensive ladies, they also believe they are the better ladies, and looks plays a big part in this decision.

420Smoka4Eva13 reads

Looks isn't the only thing but it is a big thing. If you search tryst and filter by $1,000+ an hour you'll notice a few similarities. There will be outliers here and there but the providers start to have a certain look. They are petite, tallish, fair or light skinned, few if any tattoos, boobs no bigger than c or d cup (and usually natural), and also very young.

One thing I think is left out of this subthread is the value of confidentiality. So they might be trading some looks for greater confidence that the trist will remain confidential.

 
Whether or not that applies to any of the providers thought to be high priced and here on TER or some of the other social media platform I'm not sure. Not casting dispursions on any as I think most here (both sides) are pretty honest people but I would not use TER presense as a filter for that.

420Smoka4Eva10 reads

UTR providers don't want people to know they escort. They're not going to tell anyone about you because they don't want anyone knowing what they do. Face out escorts don't have that risk.

 
Also clients at this price point like to go out for drinks, dates and dinner with the escorts they see. If a girl is UTR she isn't going to be recognized as a sex worker. UTR girls don't look like escorts or have their face out there. You can be seen in public with them. That isn't necessarily the same with other escorts at this price point. Some girls, like some porn stars, have lots of tattoos and plastic enhancements. These women are fun and sexy but if my friends or colleagues see me with a woman like that they'll know immediately what I am doing.

I know this might not work for everyone, but when you get into the territory of dropping loads of money and wanting to spend more considerable time, you really do not need a standard escort. I know it may seem easier because they spell out their services and it's an easier transaction. But with a little bit of effort, there are many ladies that with a little bit of online conversation will take you up on an offer to fly her out, dine her out, and spoil her. Basically, a sugar daddy arrangement, but it can be just a one off for a weekend or ongoing.

 
When I was younger, I did this a few times. I found them online, exhanged messages for a couple of weeks and talked on the phone. When the vibe seemed right, I suggested she let me fly her out. Every time it resulted in a weekend of sex for the cost of a plane ticket, a few meals, and maybe I bought her some clothes or a pocketbook or something.

420Smoka4Eva12 reads

I get what you are saying but I don't have to text an escort for a couple of weeks and talk on the phone with them before going on a date. Next you're going to tell me I should go out to bars and clubs and start conversations with random women and flirt with them LOL.

I would not call it regular dating. But if you want to dine her and spend the night with her, you are already signing up for more talking. Many escorts might not even do it unless you have booked and been with her at least once. Some will want to enage with you and exchange messages leading up to it as well. It becomes more of a personal experience when you plan to spend more time with her.

 
And, in the end, my conversations with these women tended to be more transactional than someone I dated. We are talking about a clear understanding that she is being flown in to stay with you and have sex with you and that there is no commitment beyond the fling weekend. But yes, it takes a little more effort than to complete a booking form. With an escort, she will take lead on what she needs/wants when it comes to staying with you for the weekend, and for some this is an important difference.

One thing I've learned is that a lot of the really wealthy don't show it. Take Warren Buffet, the Oracle of Omaha worth almost $120 billion. He still lives in the same house he bought in 1958 for $31,500 and buys reduced price cars, which he keeps until his daughter tells him they've become an embarrassment.

I keep driving my cars long after my kids told me I was an embarrassment.

 
There are advantages to that:

 
Once a cop pulled me over but when he saw my car he said that driving it was punishment enough, and besides it was obvious I wouldn't be able to afford to pay a ticket anyways.

TRUE STORY!!!

420Smoka4Eva17 reads

People figured out how to meet providers when you couldn't access TER in the US without a VPN. Also, there more and more providers who are going full no review. Clients have to learn to navigate the new normal. If you want a sure thing you stick to reviews. You might get burned but some of my best, hottest times came with girls who had no reviews. Its risk reward. Here are a few tips and tricks.

1) Check their social media if they have it. As Zeel mentioned, Twitter is a good place to get an idea of what a provider's personality is like. See if you laugh at their jokes or are interested in what they are posting. It will also show you how much they invest in clothes, photoshoots and their marketing. If a provider can invest in their business over a period of time while charging a high rate they are probably doing something right. Regular professional photoshoots featuring luxury brands in high end hotels are a good indicator.    
2) Some providers at this high end used to have reviews, but have delisted. If a provider used to have great reviews, I won't hold it against them if they have delisted.
3) Only fans. If a provider has an only fans, throw out a few bucks to see what is in it. You will be able to see some photos at least. She might also film videos, which will show you what kind of stuff she might be into.
4) Face-time. If you want to see what she looks like, ask her if she will facetime verify.

Also like Zeel said, lots of women at this price point are YMMV. You have to work a bit harder in addition to paying more money. If they feel safe around you and attracted to you they will go above and beyond. This goes without saying, but be a gentleman. Try to turn them on a bit too. It helps to show up very well dressed and very well groomed. Brush and floss those teeth and get a pack of gum. Use deodorant. Show up shaved/trimmed. Dinner dates help set the mood. Bringing some sort of wine, drink or chocolate they also helps. None of this guarantees anything and it does start to feel like as much work as regular dating but it what it is.

I don’t see un-reviewed ladies unless one of my friends has seen and recommended her. Just not worth the risk of a ymmv encounter. There are plenty of quality ladies with reviews so there’s just no reason to take the chance.

I agree it’s not worth the risk of a mediocre experience while dropping 1k.   The only time I’ve seen someone at that price point with no reviews has been with a lady from a reputable agency that has consistently excellent providers.   I was not disappointed.  

Any Provider that charges high in price and does not want a review..........Does that because they think that a review would hurt their image. My question is how may of those Providers are actually what they look like in the pictures that they display?!!  

Some of my best sessions are ladies who are UTR and have a no review policy.  Most of them have been recommendations from other ladies I have seen.  "Hey, I have a friend that's coming to town...would you be interested in seeing her?"  Or sometimes I'll ask if they know anyone who fits my "type" that might not be advertising.  

I've had a couple duds for sure, but if you've seen a lady a few times, and she trusts you and understands what you like physically and sexually, then I find that the recommendations are usually pretty good.  They don't want to lose you as a client by recommending someone who gives you a bad session.      

I've had the pleasure of a couple of non-reviewed referrals in the last couple of years and they've turned out great, for the reasons you mentioned. Some of those UTRs are wonderful.

A lot of the really high end sites have passwords so they can't be reviewed.  Since there is no public link to their profile.  I make sure I have a conversation with them or the booker in advance to make sure I'm getting exactly what I want.

my recent practice is, if they don't have at least 5 TER reviews in the past twelve months, it's an automatic pass for me.  Being able to read all of a review by having VIP has kept my "disappointment" rate around 2-3%.  There are posters here who admittedly have disappointment rates around 50%.  A high rate of disappointment is USUALLY the result of laziness in the vetting, so it's pilot-error when the crash comes.  

 
When I used to see girls with no reviews, I found that the disappointment rate was higher as a result of misrepresentations on their website (old photos, fake photos, and false menu claims, which often leads to upselling at the session).

I'd like to think pre-screening goes both ways and not just one way, from the provider. I simply ask them the questions I need answered. 90% of the time they answer it and are truthful. The ones that don't respond or say they can't discuss it, don't get hired. It's as simple as that.

Atlanta has one high end agency that I know about. Based on the photos, their escorts are easily glamour model material. A typical date would run $1500 per hour with a three hour minimum, but you can arrange for anything from an airport meet and greet to a 5 day getaway.  My point is I've never seen any of the ladies reviewed nor the agency referenced on TER even though they've been in business for quite a while.

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