I have been in the hobby for a number of years but most of my experience has been with single hour dates. Within the past year I began to book more two hour or longer dates with various ladies having multiple hour minimums. I have noticed that during these dates that the lady will often mention that money is tight or that she does not make as much money as people think, etc. Also if the lady asks you to stay in touch with her via email the same subject is likely to come up in her emails. I have seldom heard any of the ladies who primarily provide one hour dates ever talk or complain about money.
Is this a common occurence on multiple hour dates? Why would a lady mention this to a client? Is the lady just fishing for a tip? Is the lady just greedy? Is she just trying to fill time during the date? Do I have rich or sucker stamped across my forehead? I am interested in any comments that either men or women have on this subject.
This is not idle conversation. It probably hasn't come up on single hour dates because of time constraints. Also, during multiple-hour dates, YOU probably talk more, giving the ladies a better insight into your make up. Don't forget, these women are generally excellent judges of character (it's a survival skill) and can pick up on subtle clues that may indicate you're a potential soft touch.
There are a lot of providers out here who would never dream of behaving so coarsely. Keep looking.
I only discussed 'money' topics if we were discussing money topics (!) - just part of a 'general' conversation.
Mentioning personal financial difficulties has no place during a session.
I have not run into this. I find that the ladies I spend many hours with are actually less likely to complain about their monetary woes and focus more on ultimate satisfaction.
I suppose it all depends on the caliber of the lady involved also.
Then again, many people are still having financial problems.
Whenever money comes up, it is me that normally mentions it. Typically the mention is about saving or investing as much of earnings as possible. I have not any one hour dates in a long time, so I do not know what the one hour ladies are thinking.
My financial situation is my own affair and if I was short of money that would be my problem entirely. Although I'm lucky enough not to have been in a situation that warranted it, I know I would never plead poverty in order to extract extra money from a client. I'm well paid for the service I provide, it would be lacking in class if I started to angle for tips on top.
As loverofwomen says, many providers would feel the same way.
I also originally would book one hour dates.
I realized (and several guys told me the same thing) that multi hour dates were much better. I usually date the same women and have developed a bond with them.
Of course, that depends on your financial position.
I always try and go with an hour date .... There's nothing I can't do in one hour vs. two .. many ladies hype a 2 two saying this and that, but one is good enough for me to get an excellent read on a lady .... after that if we click I will go into 2 hour dates .. but I have never had a lady discuss her finances ... I think it's time you look for a different fishing hole ....
Your answer is why you are on the short list of world class women all of us want to see.
It's very refreshing to hear a lady admit that she is compensated handsomely for what she does. Great attitude, sweetie!!!
One of the very best escorts in LA once told me, "spending an evening dining out with an attractive, charming, intelligent man and then fucking our brains out at the end of the evening is how I'd choose to spend my Friday night anyway. The fact that he leaves a pile of cash on the nightstand is just a bonus for me."
Jacksonlips
"spending an evening dining out with an attractive, charming, intelligent man and then fucking our brains out at the end of the evening is how I'd choose to spend my Friday night anyway. The fact that he leaves a pile of cash on the nightstand is just a bonus for me."
EXACTLY! I spend my time with men that I enjoy intellectually, and the sex is fantastic. What more could a girl want?
That said, it is business, and I would never discuss personal financial concerns with any "business partner" in any type of business. It's class, not klass.
I only do multi-hour sessions and no woman has ever brought up the subject of needing more money or making too little during date or in e-mails. In fact, the opposite may be true. As a regular, discounts often occur and priority in booking. Sure, some women have mention at various times that things may be slow or asked me to see them again, but no direct expectation of extra tip or signs of greed. Just talking business. Maybe I'm just lucky but I like to think I choose my playmates carefully. Might be you just had a bad streak. Re-examine who you see.
The next time you run into a provider that starts to bitch and moan about her financial situation you should ask her to return the favor. If you felt a need to ask the question you obviously knew there was a problem there, It would make me very uncomfortable if my date started talking about money in general, not to mention how tight money was for him, I would think he was angling for a discount. HOW TACKY!! Such talk is just unacceptable!! I personally would never go there.
I posted this under an unknown alias to avoid tramping on any toes. Based upon who you are and what you have said my decision is very easy at this point.
In looking at Jacksonlips' reviews I see that we have more than a few ladies in common. That should satisfy everyone that I have not always been betting at the two dollar window or fishing at the wrong hole so to speak. Of that group my experience seems to be somewhat different than his with a couple of the ladies. The other ladies I have seen also have good reviews. I think LoverofWomen must have hit it right when he said that I must appear to be a soft touch (sucker).
I have no intention of being played for a sucker so the solution seems obvious. I will stick to the one hour dates where I seem to get more and better sex and don't have to hear about the money problems.
Thank you all for your input.
Neither I or any of my provider friends would discuss such a thing. That is unprofessional and tacky...
...that first of all, I dont have money problems, but my minimum is 1.5 hours, even though it is multiple people have no problem with it, and one of the girls I work with has 2 hour minimums and she makes plenty of money.
I have never heard of anyone who didnt make "enough", unless they just have bad business tactics. There is always someone out there for somebody, you know? Even in the entertainment world. This is a ploy, dont fall for it. I do have to say, (ashamed as I may be to say so) I have known girls who have gotten extra money out of clients that they keep n touch with, and unfortnately the guys are not quick enough to catch on. They say things like they are pregnant and need abortion money, thier rent is late, they cant aford food, car note, etc. etc. and so on and guys send them money, ALL THE TIME. Its ok if its once in a while and they do need it- in my opinion, rarely does it truely happen that they needed it... they are just being greedy.
Dani-Banani
You seem to imply an inevitable link between issues of the esort's concern about money and length of session. Normally I would think of these as quite separate. First, though, I would be suspicious of any escort raising the issue of money in the manner you describe. Once you start down that road she will take you further along, and you may end up in a disaster. There are a great many wonderful escorts out there who handle their business affairs professionally. Don't settle for anything less. As for the other issue, namely, sessions longer than an hour, I think there can be a meeting of minds on this, for it can be mutually beneficial. I find an hour to be too short if you want to develop intimacy with your escort and if you are interested in seeing her over the long run. Of course, from an escort's point of view the longer session is often more cost effective and there's less need for her to clean up, etc. between sessions. But also from a professional or strategic point of view, it's also in the escort's interest to have clients she likes and who through longer sessions are interested in building a longer-term relationship.