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Thanks for the reply heather
cashorcredit 4018 reads
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a $300 an hr provider vs a $500-2k an hr provider........

Besides seeing fewer clients and being low volume what are the significant differences if any?

 

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perfectstorm 19 Reviews 877 reads
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GaGambler 894 reads
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Does anyone really believe that a $1,500 hr hooker is any hotter than a $1,000 hr hooker? or that there is really anything more she can do BCD? Give me a fucking break.

I think it's a lot more marketing and ambience than anything else.  It's the same reason people pay two hundred bucks for a bottle of Cristal in a liquor store, five hundred bucks for the same bottle at a decent restaurant, or over a grand for that very same bottle at a nightclub. Same bottle, same (rather ordinary) champagne,  three different prices.

OR, ponder a hooker like JLS who is also "Corrine" at a much higher rate, not to mention the "galloping gourmet" at even a different rate.

Quite frankly a hooker is worth what she can convince some guy or guys that she is worth. Looks and service have very little to do with it after a certain price point.

cashorcredit 1153 reads
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So basically your opinion, the higher the price, the service will be better and the gal will be hotter.

I can't argue with that

cashorcredit 1068 reads
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For failure to answer a direct question.

GaGambler 988 reads
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and I rarely found much of a difference from the $250-400 range to the HDH's, IMO besides ambience, maybe a nicer venue and a glass of wine instead of a bottle of water, I have never noticed much of a difference in either appearance or BCD performance.

Now part of this is market dependent. $250-400 puts you in the "sweet spot" in markets like Dallas or Atlanta, you most likely have to raise that to maybe the $400-600 range in cities like LV or NYC. Or lower it in other places in the world. A hundred bucks in a city like Medellin will get you a woman hotter than any thousand dollar an hour hooker that you will find anywhere in the US.

cocktail-party 1167 reads
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The only universal rule you can draw is that the higher the price, the higher the expectations. It's often a crap shoot as to whether she lives up to it.

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Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1109 reads
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Is more like doing two things. Fucking a hot woman, and meeting someone 'famous.'

I have banged a porn star myself, and it actually was a very awesome experience - so I could see how they would cost more if they're also great providers.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 976 reads
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If someone can get $2k/hour, and see the amount of clients I see with the types of dates I get, (mostly multiple hours,) she'd be shitting diamonds. (And I'm definitely not shitting diamonds lmao.)

That's a lot of money, so probably much lower volume. If she's seeing five clients a week with two multi hour appointments, that's a shit ton of money.

She can afford facials and facial peels three times per week, her clothes are probably very well tailored and high quality/high end name, and has the ability to afford things that people with a lot of money and are into showy things, will notice and require, I guess. It's just a girl catering to a different market. LA & NYC have people with a lot of dough. I don't think there are 2k/hr providers here in Chicago, and definitely not in Ohio. Lol.

But I'm sure there is a market for that price range, and the reason is, Michael Kohrs sun glasses, Coach purse, and Guess shoes would embarrass certain guys. I, one day, may go on a date with a guy like that, but I would fail miserably lol. I just don't make the money to spend $10,000 on one outfit. But an outfit can EASILY cost that much.

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cashorcredit 838 reads
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In theory a $1,500 an hr provider should be hotter than a 1,000 an hr provider, but doesn't mean she will be

cashorcredit 967 reads
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From the $250-400 range. I guess in a way I'm trying to convenience myself is it worth moving my price point up if I'm getting the same bang for my buck at 250-400 an hr.

cashorcredit 971 reads
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Those are definitely some significant differences between the two providers that I did not take into consideration, good post.

cocktail-party 987 reads
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The ladies who are objectively spectacularly hot and know it will charge more, but unfortunately, there's no correlation to performance (and in defense of the ladies, there's no predicting chemistry). This past summer I went a little hog-wild, saw a wide range of ladies and the most memorable one was the cheapest. Go figure.  

As Courtney states below, you'll mostly be paying for ambience, and even that can be YMMV. The better approach is to take it on a case-by-case basis. If she give you a raging boner, and you've done your research and have the money to burn, then give it a shot!

Heathergfe See my TER Reviews 1446 reads
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There ARE NOT $300 ladies and $600 ladies and $1000 ladies. There are $300 clients, $600 clients and $1000 clients. We decide which group of men we feel most comfortable marketing to. Some women feel more comfortable spending time with a $200 client. Some women feel more comfortable spending time with clients who can afford more. You cannot say that the service is better the more you pay. I know there are girls charging $150 that have a menu that would make me blush. I know ladies in the $1000 who have a more limited menu than myself. You also cannot say that the more expensive girls are hotter. There are hot girls in every price range and beauty is so subjective that you can say who is hotter, only who is hotter to you. You also cannot assume that ladies who charge more are lower volume. I know women who charge much more than I do yet they are much busier. I also know that there are plenty of ladies who charge much less than myself and they are happy to see one client a week.  
You as a client decide how much you can afford and who you want to see. Are you a $200 client or a $500 client?

Senator.Blutarsky 911 reads
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What I perceive as value will be different than someone else's...  

Are the ladies any more beautiful? Maybe... Maybe not... What I perceive as beauty I'm sure is different than yours...  

Is the experience any better? Maybe... Maybe not... Again, it depends on one's desires and what he or she is willing to pay to satisfy those desires...  

It's really all about marketing... I think what is being sold at the higher price points is status and ego satisfaction...  

Just my two centavos.

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GaGambler 1016 reads
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hotness and performance can be measured as well, I will concede we all have different ways of measuring it, but it definitely can be measured.

I get pleasure out of having a cold beer on a hot day, I also get pleasure from spending an entire night of sex with a beautiful woman. If you think the amount of pleasure I derive from these two pleasures are equal, you need to find a new hobby.

hiddenhills 143 Reviews 1095 reads
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Shoes and lingerie. Think Loubies and La Pera instead of Payless  and Vic Secret

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the differences in most cases are simply marketing, gullibility and ego/status.

I know that sounds a bit cynical and critical, but I'd apply the same thinking to most things. I don't need a Rolex to tell time and I don't need to fly to Savile Row to find a great custom suit. I'm just fine with who I am, and I choose not to spend time with folks whose idea of a good time is to compete for bragging rights and status.  

What IS important to me, is that I see women that I find attractive and fun, and who seem to genuinely enjoy my company as well. That can happen anywhere, at any time - and all the cash in the world won't make that little "click" happen any more often or any "better".

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Geography being a big one. I think what you said is correct, in a given area. But when comparing rates across geographies, eg NY vs Twin Cities, that needs to be taken into account. You'll find very few providers of ANY menu over 500 an hour in Minnesota. But that's common in NY and other areas. Are the top providers in, say, NY way better than the top providers in MN, given the price difference?  I doubt it, although the ladies and their clients in NY may beg to differ.

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I had a dream last night that we traded upton for strasburg hopefully it will come to fruition.

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cocktail-party 1177 reads
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cashorcredit 880 reads
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I guess that's why I haven't taken the plunge, like you the majority of guys usually say there are no significant differences.  

You make good points about the ambiance and nicer venue, Courtney as well as she did point out that high end providers will be more glammed up upon meeting

cashorcredit 997 reads
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To answer your question, I'm a 250-1k client if I think a provider is worth the amount

1820590 37 Reviews 799 reads
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I have found some of the higher rate providers I have seen are better at making you feel like you 'clicked' with them..  

Per the OP, there is a big difference I find in NYC in terms of looks and performance when going from 250 to 500.   Here, 250 will get you an AMP an or BP girl.  Above 500/hr though, I have found the marginal benefit drop considerably, and difficult to meet my loftier expectations for that rate..

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Heathergfe See my TER Reviews 1362 reads
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If you find yourself "clicking" better with the higher fee girls then you are probably a higher fee client.

GaGambler 1038 reads
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I just don't see any trend strong enough to state that "you get what you pay for"

Sometimes a HDH will give elevated service to go along with her high rate, an equal amount of the time, she will consider her time so valuable that she starts guarding it zealously, which of course leads to clock watching. It's rare that I see a woman hot enough to justify paying anything over the usual $250-400 hr rate. I won't say I would NEVER do so, but with all the quality women at that price point, more than I could ever fuck in ten lifetimes, I just don't see the point.

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A new plumber in town with little experience soliciting customers, might  charge forty  bucks for a quick service call for his first few hundred calls, until he gains an abundance of  clients and referrals .
  Once he becomes popular with a good reputation, he will  often  raise his price to a couple hundred for a 45 minute  service call.
 Charging  five times more than he did when he was new in town doesn't make him any better at his job , except in the eyes of the Hot Sugar baby he found on BP.  

 For better or worse, another similarity between providers and plumbers you've never used before,  you can't  be sure when one of the two will show up with more of a butt crack than you bargained for.
   
   
   
Posted By: cashorcredit
a $300 an hr provider vs a $500-2k an hr provider........  
   
 Besides seeing fewer clients and being low volume what are the significant differences if any?  
   
 

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keystonekid 114 Reviews 993 reads
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mentioned above (NYC compared to Arkansas) just about cover all scenerios.

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Just saw an ad for a lady that was here 2 weeks ago and she was asking $300. Her new ad was $550. Did she get better looking and get that much betters skills? Nope. She's trying to figure what she can charge.

Then there are the ladies that have their rates go up and down like a yo yo. 400 to 600 to 1000 to 800 to 500. These are all rates one lady claimed she charged in 1 years time.

1820590 37 Reviews 881 reads
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Thought your reply was pretty interesting and insightful....

1820590 37 Reviews 1103 reads
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You would think with the greater supply, there would lower rates in NYC, but not necessarily so, at least not for the better ones...  To be fair, the costs here are MUCH higher than most cities.  Hotel rooms and apartment costs are 2-3x higher than many other cities and the overall cost of living is just higher.  Thank Fod for business travel:

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inicky46 61 Reviews 1104 reads
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A few years ago you almost never saw anyone priced above $500/hr.  But in recent months I've seen a large number of women asking $600-$800/hr.  I'm not sure why this has happened and hope it will abate.

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 1027 reads
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Not bad :) ..... not bad at all.

Posted By: Heathergfe
There ARE NOT $300 ladies and $600 ladies and $1000 ladies. There are $300 clients, $600 clients and $1000 clients. We decide which group of men we feel most comfortable marketing to. Some women feel more comfortable spending time with a $200 client. Some women feel more comfortable spending time with clients who can afford more. You cannot say that the service is better the more you pay. I know there are girls charging $150 that have a menu that would make me blush. I know ladies in the $1000 who have a more limited menu than myself. You also cannot say that the more expensive girls are hotter. There are hot girls in every price range and beauty is so subjective that you can say who is hotter, only who is hotter to you. You also cannot assume that ladies who charge more are lower volume. I know women who charge much more than I do yet they are much busier. I also know that there are plenty of ladies who charge much less than myself and they are happy to see one client a week.  
 You as a client decide how much you can afford and who you want to see. Are you a $200 client or a $500 client?

DesireDrea See my TER Reviews 1041 reads
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It could not be articulated any better! I agree. Price  does not 100% reflect worth. The only thing I would add to this comment is that if a lady is going to afford advertisement,wardrobe. quality photos etc . she would have to charge a fair market value to maintain her business unless ofcourse she came into the business independently wealthy or has a sponsor.At the same token a client who spends higher dollar in general would be perceived as discerning in his/her taste but that again is subjective and depending on ones budget . Thats the Beauty of the Biz,there is a variety available for everyone to enjoy.

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Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 722 reads
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persoanlly her seeing fewer clients is key. Typically I'm  the only client seen in an evening, which means less rushed and don't have that assembly line-type feel. As far as actual services delivered, not much of a difference. I've had very satisfying sessions paying 300 per hour. I guess it all depends what your looking for. Cheers!

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The only way that NYC rates will abate is when guys decide they won't pay that much. We have a mutual friend who single handedly has probably raised rates a good 10% by his willingness to pay said rates, and not only pay these inflated rates, but post publicly that he feels he is getting a "deal"

You can't blame the women, as sellers they are only good businesswomen by charging as much as the market will bear. As long as you guys in NY continue to patronize these women at these rates, they would be foolish to lower them.

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unless by being "higher priced client" she means a guy who "thinks" by paying more he is getting more, than yes in a Yuppy kind of way she is right.

For the record, Yuppies are/were famous for being shallow, easily manipulated people with no real taste, who always paid "over sticker price" thinking that by doing so they were getting something "better" Trust fund babies are also guilty of this kind of behavior.

I call BULLSHIT!!!

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I find it highly amusing the bullshit that guys will convince themselves of.

Yes, some hookers charge exorbitant rates so they can see less clients. Others just want to make 2-3  times as much money and will  still see just as many clients as they possibly can, but if the stupid guys want to believe this bullshit, who are we to burst their bubble? lol

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I only said that $250-400 was the price point for quality in the markets of Dallas, Atlanta and similar cities. In NYC, LV and a couple of other cities that threshold is more like $500-600 hour to be in the so called "sweet spot" In places like Costa Rica the price point is more like a hundred bucks and in Thailand you are grossly over paying at half that.

What Heather said was about being a "higher fee client" as if that somehow makes you superior to the "lower" or "average" fee client, and that most definitely is bullshit, not to mention self serving. "High Fee" of course is a relative term as you quite rightly pointed out.

My issue is not with spending any particular dollar amount to buy/rent pussy, my issue is with guys who overpay and think that by doing so that they are getting something better than the rest of us. I don't really blame the hookers for encouraging this type of thing, anymore than I blame Cristal for charging three times what a similar quality champagne sells for that is not the beneficiary of great marketing. it's a business after all, and it's not the sellers that are dumb, it's the buyers.

To clarify, I have no issues with guys forking over what they have to to get a quality experience, regardless of whether that number is $300 or $600 depending on the market he is in. My issue is about guys grossly overpaying and then trying to convince the rest of us that we are cheap for getting value for our dollar.

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Posted By: cashorcredit
I had a dream last night that we traded upton for strasburg hopefully it will come to fruition.  

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For me, and per the OP, I think it's all relative to where you hobby.  Where YOU are, you get to see pretty good quality providers for what it costs to get a BP blow and Go or even AMP rub and tug in NYC...  Here, i am a pretty much a 400-500hr client cause that is what it now costs to see a descent provider.  When i started, it was 250-400.  It's hardly being a yuppie, pretentious, trustafarian who doesn't care what he pays, it's just the cost of an 8/8 or better GFE here, like it or not...  That is no Bullshit in the Big Apple.

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Brother that's a strike out waiting to happen.

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What does it matter the difference between provider pricing? The provider is going to set her price to the exact point where she's getting the number, and type of calls she wants. Plus, there are good and bad ones at every level. The same goes for attractiveness, based on what each gentleman considers attractive.  

The differences are twofold. The first is whether or not you have money to burn. We all burn at our own level. The second, and most important, is the depth of connection. The deeper the connection, the more value is added to your sessions, causing you to return many times.  

I've known some high end ladies who had no clue how to connect. What's the old saying? One and done! But I also had the privilege of knowing the most incredible $200 lady. Each and every gentleman who went to her incall, and there were many, knew that he was valued more than any other gentleman in the world. She did what every good business does, study the needs of the clients, then go way above and beyond what's expected. And I'm not talking about what happened on the bed, where there were few rules. I'm talking about what happened off the bed. Now I've connected more deeply with many other ladies. But no other lady worked harder at taking care of all the needs of her gentlemen. What's the old saying? Thank you, may I have another?

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Anyone above $300/hr I see purely on how good they look and how bad I want it, service is usually exceptionally topped out this point along with the occasional outlier on poor service.

But I'm willing to make an exception for 'gifted' talents. I rarely see a provider twice, but this $150/hr lady I did multiple times, even with a limited menu. I was absolutely crushed when she disappeared. She had the ability to let her juices drip non-stop when stimulated. It was complete bliss to get your balls slathered in it while being humped. *tears*

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As a numerical value is what measuring is all about, or quantifying or weighing in on it all with a numbered value, which is mathematical and scientific and exact comparison is involved. Your example is that you value making love to a woman more then you do drinking a beer. Sure, I get it, but it is two unlike activities, and however unrelated, is it on a scale from 1-10; 1-100, etc, where do they place? Your reply is a personal preference... but, let’s keep it apples to apples here, so to speak, when it comes to a man getting pleasure from a woman, or what pleasure another man gets from another woman cannot be determined and measured to who got the greater or lesser pleasure out of the deal. The same goes in getting a greater or lesser amount of pleasure compared to a higher priced provider vs. a lower priced provider, and as you said in your previous post, quote: “I rarely found much of a difference from the $250-400 range” [and] “that a $1,500 hr hooker is any hotter than a $1,000 hr hooker.”

I stand by what I say and believe that an exact measuring system does not exist when it comes to pleasure.  It’s like that old cliché as in one man’s ceiling is another man’s floor, or one man’s treasure is another man’s junk, it just doesn't justify one size or system fits all. So who is the happier man or customer? (The same goes for the woman or provider—who is all the happier when it comes to getting pleasure?)  Just saying.

Now on-the-other-hand, can a man’s cranky disposition be measured? Maybe not, but then again there are those who enjoy it

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