I assume that there are cameras everywhere, including the lobby, elevators, corridors, vending machines, lounge areas, .... (1) The Boston Craigslist mugger was caught on hotel videos, including the elevator. Turned out he was a med student and engaged to be married. (2) Some famous retired athlete was caught on hotel elevator video slugging his wife, right in the jaw; one punch and she went down like a sack of potatoes. Then he dragged her out of the elevator. He lost endorsements and got into other trouble. Cameras are EVERYWHERE but that doesn't make you guilty of anything.
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One time, I was traveling and I went to a hotel to meet an old college classmate at the hotel bar. I thought someone was going to call the cops!
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Consider parking "anywhere" and taking an Uber for the final mile. Don't Uber to the hotel but to an address nearby. If the hotel is 666 6th St., Uber to 646 6th St..
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Many people here remember the early and middle days of cell phone proliferation. They believed, "Whatever you do, don't talk on your cell phone while in the hotel lobby!!! The only people who use cell phones in hotels are clients calling hookers for the room number!" NOT.
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As far as keycard access is concerned (for Jaydalee), some have suggested calling long in advance to ask about hotel policy. I think one excuse was "Family travel but I don't want the kids losing key cards. Can they come and go w/o key cards?" In some hotels, key card restrictions only kick in outside daytime hours (e.g.., 8 PM to 6 AM or such). If you check in at 3 PM (no key card restrictions), don't assume that guests can get in for an evening visit.
I was at two different hotels in the last month. One, a Marriott in Birmingham, Alabama on a business trip, and one was a Quality Inn in Chattanooga, where I took my kids for a mini-vacation.
At both places they have set up paid parking like they do in parking garages. When you go up to the parking lot you have to press a button and get a ticket for the bar to go up and allow your car through. According to the instructions, you have to scan your hotel key card to exit the parking lot, or scan your parking ticket and pay $10 an hour. No cash payments can be made in the machines, you have to scan your credit or debit card to pay.
This is problematic for hotels where we go to see providers. If there was a LE sting and they busted a provider at a hotel, they now have verifiable evidence that I was at that hotel (my debit card) — and come to think of it, those machines probably take pictures of your car’s license plates too, most of them in parking garages do. So LE would know I was there at the same time a provider was there and I wasn’t staying at the hotel because I didn’t use a room key to exit, I used my debit card ... they’ll put two and two together and figure out I was there to see the provider.
Not cool.
I was at two different hotels in the last month. One, a Marriott in Birmingham, Alabama on a business trip, and one was a Quality Inn in Chattanooga, where I took my kids for a mini-vacation.
At both places they have set up paid parking like they do in parking garages. When you go up to the parking lot you have to press a button and get a ticket for the bar to go up and allow your car through. According to the instructions, you have to scan your hotel key card to exit the parking lot, or scan your parking ticket and pay $10 an hour. No cash payments can be made in the machines, you have to scan your credit or debit card to pay.
This is problematic for hotels where we go to see providers. If there was a LE sting and they busted a provider at a hotel, they now have verifiable evidence that I was at that hotel (my debit card) — and come to think of it, those machines probably take pictures of your car’s license plates too, most of them in parking garages do. So LE would know I was there at the same time a provider was there and I wasn’t staying at the hotel because I didn’t use a room key to exit, I used my debit card ... they’ll put two and two together and figure out I was there to see the provider.
Not cool.
LEO will try and lure you into the room and bust you there, not later when you are at home watching a movie.
If you are seeing professional women with excellent reputations, this further lessens the risk as girls who screen well are extraordinarily tough, if not close to impossible, to sting per your example. In other words, I am saying you are greatly overstating the risk.
You being at the hotel the same time a provider was is no proof of wrongdoing. Just pay the 10 bucks and move along. No worries!
They would need a lot more than you exiting a parking lot to arrest you. There would be no connection to the provider. Of course, people who get stopped often end up incriminating themselves.
One thing to keep in mind, in ANY arrest situation, is to STFU. Don't answer any questions except basic booking information like name, DOB, address, etc. Say you want an attorney and then your absolute right to counsel attaches and the questioning should stop.
Even if you think you are providing exculpatory information it can be used against you. There is a short book out there which is highly recommended - "You Have The Right To Remain Innocent" by James Duane, an attorney and law school professor. He also has some Youtube videos on the same topics.
Sorry I got off topic a bit, but it's important.
I was there to get a drink at the hotel bar with a friend. I was there to have an affair with the mayor’s wife, and of course she will deny it. Or, it’s none of your fucking business why I was in a building that’s a public accommodation that has 200 rooms only one of which you think naughty stuff was happening in.
And that’s before you even get to the question of why the hotel would hand over those records without a warrant, or how a judge could approve a warrant on the basis that they might find a dude who was there to visit the sex worker (with no proof that he was there to buy sex services-maybe you just needed to talk to a willing listener?).
In short, as the others have said, relax. This is not how they will nail you. And it’s very unlikely they really want to nail you anyway.
By LEO you mean your wife (if you're on vacation with your kids, I'm assuming you're married). The issue is the paper and electronic trail. Also, depending on where you live, parking can add another $15 to $20 to your visit (Washington, DC).
I also don't like the added hassle and potential for something to go wrong and having to call an attendant. It's more the hassle factor than just pulling up, waking in, and driving out - easy.
I am NOT referring to my wife. I’m not married. I’m a widower and a single dad. My wife passed away from cancer in 2018.
problem solved. When traveling some hotels I stay in charge for parking in their garages/lots
Majority of my clients park on the street and then just walk a short distance to the hotel.
Some also do park in the garage.
I don't really think this is really an issue.
For instance I booked a hotel where the front entrance was keycard only. Didn't realize until I was already there/
Had to eat the cost of the room $100+ and move somewhere else for discretion purposes and still pay for another hotel.
This is not a one-off experience either.
I would call this scenario hotels making it difficult.
I assume that there are cameras everywhere, including the lobby, elevators, corridors, vending machines, lounge areas, .... (1) The Boston Craigslist mugger was caught on hotel videos, including the elevator. Turned out he was a med student and engaged to be married. (2) Some famous retired athlete was caught on hotel elevator video slugging his wife, right in the jaw; one punch and she went down like a sack of potatoes. Then he dragged her out of the elevator. He lost endorsements and got into other trouble. Cameras are EVERYWHERE but that doesn't make you guilty of anything.
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One time, I was traveling and I went to a hotel to meet an old college classmate at the hotel bar. I thought someone was going to call the cops!
.
Consider parking "anywhere" and taking an Uber for the final mile. Don't Uber to the hotel but to an address nearby. If the hotel is 666 6th St., Uber to 646 6th St..
.
Many people here remember the early and middle days of cell phone proliferation. They believed, "Whatever you do, don't talk on your cell phone while in the hotel lobby!!! The only people who use cell phones in hotels are clients calling hookers for the room number!" NOT.
.
As far as keycard access is concerned (for Jaydalee), some have suggested calling long in advance to ask about hotel policy. I think one excuse was "Family travel but I don't want the kids losing key cards. Can they come and go w/o key cards?" In some hotels, key card restrictions only kick in outside daytime hours (e.g.., 8 PM to 6 AM or such). If you check in at 3 PM (no key card restrictions), don't assume that guests can get in for an evening visit.
I was at two different hotels in the last month. One, a Marriott in Birmingham, Alabama on a business trip, and one was a Quality Inn in Chattanooga, where I took my kids for a mini-vacation.
At both places they have set up paid parking like they do in parking garages. When you go up to the parking lot you have to press a button and get a ticket for the bar to go up and allow your car through. According to the instructions, you have to scan your hotel key card to exit the parking lot, or scan your parking ticket and pay $10 an hour. No cash payments can be made in the machines, you have to scan your credit or debit card to pay.
This is problematic for hotels where we go to see providers. If there was a LE sting and they busted a provider at a hotel, they now have verifiable evidence that I was at that hotel (my debit card) — and come to think of it, those machines probably take pictures of your car’s license plates too, most of them in parking garages do. So LE would know I was there at the same time a provider was there and I wasn’t staying at the hotel because I didn’t use a room key to exit, I used my debit card ... they’ll put two and two together and figure out I was there to see the provider.
Not cool.
That's as solid as they need. They don't need to invest thousands of extra dollars in research to get you.
If they want to bust johns, then they set up stings with police gals as the decoys.
If it makes you feel safer, then by all means go follow the advice to park elsewhere and walk or Uber your way to the hotel, but for now, you can relax.
so the chances of someone NOT being caught on one is slim to none. I'm sure I'm on too many to count. Lol.
And then if you actually do an extended date where you two leave the hotel together, now both of you are on camera with the hotel staff seeing you. I never gave it a second thought because the last time I checked being seen with a beautiful woman wasn't a crime. Plus providers have lives outside of their work and no one knows which side of that line you fall on.
I've visited providers in hotels where I had to pay electronically (disposable card) because there was no other place to park. I just did it because I could be there for any reason which isn't anyone’s business.
Yes, paying to park sucks but The Ritz, and others have been doing this for years in Orlando. I know when I go that I'm either paying for valet or paying to park and hike from the parking lot, so I'm prepared (and I charge enough to cover it myself hahaha). But I book a lot of 3 stars for incalls to avoid difficult parking and bc most of them haven't ever required a key to get up to the room. The key is what turns me off!! I LOVE the butterflies that come right before the door opens! Whichever side of it I'm on. But the Holiday Inn and a few others have changed to elevators to require a key. So me waiting in the room for you wearing whatever the F you requested and amping myself up like a prize fighter, are all out the window! I have to F-ing get dressed, put on a mask and walk my happy/turned-on ass downstairs to meet you.
PS - I avoid writing out F*** on this F-board just for inicky
get yourself a Vanilla Visa ... you can get one anonymously at most drug stores. put a couple hundred on it and use it for misc expenses like garages. if you were a terrorist or murder suspect, yes they could still trace it back to the drug purchase but they arent going to go through that for a hooker bust ! LOL and certainly there would be no paper trail for someone else to find ie employer, SO etc etc
I'm more annoyed at being forced to use a CC than a fear of getting busted.
We started going paperless long before covid and as a cash carrying monger I resent being forced to whip out the plastic when I have some perfectly good cocaine/poop/god-knows-what encrusted paper currency!
rant over