....ladies in our job description would answer the phone or a least return a call when someone is trying to get a reference on a potential client, out of a sisterly respect, and an unspoken bond that should (In my opinion) go without saying. However, and Im not going to be slanderous and say anyones' name, I just want it to be known, I cant seem to get ahold of the ladies given to me to refer to. I always double screen Vegas locals since LE is so tremendously hateful of us, its just a normal precaution-- so you would think that in hopes of someone then being able to return the favor, a girl would let me know the story, or at least give me a quick yes or no. I know I have in the past...
But alas... to my dismay Im losing out, he's losing out and all because they can seem to be courteous....
(sigh) thus my bad day continues....
Dani
Dani I understand your frustration and I'm sad if this behavior is purposeful. Did you try e-mail, too?
I would feel really badly if I missed a chance to help but I know that there are times when I sometimes (for days at a time) can't pick up phone messages or return calls, or e-mail. For example and for converging reasons I am able to communicate over the internet right now but not over the phone.
LJ
...emailed and called several times, but I just know that when I am not able to answer the phone or my email for an extended time I put up a voicemail message that syas so or an auto-response email that says I am out of town or unavailable and will get back as soon as I can...
I do have to say this, these ladies have a few ok reviews on here but they are not notorious TER girls if you know what I mean. I think that has something to do with it as well...
(sigh again)
Dani
My personal policy is, when requesting or asking for references I like to keep client confidentiality thus I only ask or answer 2 questions.
1 have you seen ____________
2 would you see him again?
I had a provider call me 14 times in one day and then consistantly call me when I told her I couldn't talk right then.
how does it look to be answering the phone with a phone in your hand?
I don't do references except via email where I can talk more and at my convenience not to mention that my phone bill runs high until I can get suncom in a month.
which takes time. If you work in your local area is should be
just a matter of time before you get to know other providers.
This kind of post probably doesn't help towards that
development.
fr
PS Why do you post with multiple aliases within the same thread?
I get an email from someone trying to see me last minute using a reference. I take the time (last minute) to call the only provider he says he saw who states he's fine on the phone.
I tell him I could run 15 minutes late in order to see him, which I did run 15 minutes late so I could take a shower and be presentable. He even guesses as to whether a man leaving the hotel was my date before him in the review, what a jackass.
Today I see he's reviewed me.. He picks me apart and blames me for circumstances he's created. He is critical with every provider he's reviewed. Why did he use the one provider for a reference? I'm guessing because the others he's seen more recently would tell me the truth. So basically, he ripped me off. He stole the chance I have of deciding whether I want to see him.
I called the provider again today who said he was ok
She elaborates on "he's ok" to include...
1. he stunk
2. he booked red-eye date for one hour, she had to get up very early to see him then he lingers 4 hours at her incall.
3. he trashed her bathroom leaving 4 towels dirty.
Has seen 9 others since.... hmmmm, I wonder why he uses her as a reference?
I'm using an alias because my reviews show up when I post, which would inflame this loser. He'd see this and start pissing and moaning all over the boards.
GRRR, take my advise guys... if you want to have a perfect date, be a good date! If you think you're being a jackass, you probably are!!
Yes, I'm chubby, my review profile says "baby fat". My photo's are accurate and state on my site that I'm curvy. I have 15 pages of reviews! Don't put me out... slam me in a review... lie to me then think I won't be a bit upset over the whole situation. Jesus, take your 300.00 back, please LOL
I know, customer service..... I'm responsible for everything that happens in my world and I can take it like a big girl. I can vent too sometimes :P
No form of qualifying a man before you meet him will be fool proof. Not every provider will have the same standards as to whether she'd see him again. Some will see anyone with cash, period.
Thanks for the rant
(Hi there gorgeous, for the uninitiated.)
I think it is instructive to review the last part of the sentence where he guesses about a previous client - "with that look that we must all have on our face after we’ve done this."
Did he mean that the guy looked like Gene Kelly, dancing and singing about being in love?
Jill on the Hill? I love it!
I used to be a really hardass about getting references...
Until I got a bad reference that exploded my entire dating routine and scared the bejeezus out of me... a girl that had been compromised, formerly a "friend".
Nothing bad happened but my heart was doing double beats for a month and I stopped serial dating for a monogamous thing for 3/4 of a year!
It highlighted my inferiorer screening and the need for me to depend entirely on myself for verification purposes.
If the guy won't give you the information you need in order to verify that he is who he says he is, then, well, move on.
The internet provides SO MANY free resources in order to be able to double check without needing to be indiscrete, and I'm able to call the guy at work at a prediscribed time and say I'm "elise from Washington Mutual, or Wawanesa"~ or whatever the guy asks me to say. If the guy can't handle one personal phone call at the job so you can verify he's there, well..
so be it...
Then there are just so many other double triple and quadruple checks you can do...
There's no reason to call another lady who you have NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT KIND OF CHECK THEY DID...
So, Buck up and get to researching and then have a nice relaxing date.
It shouldn't take more than 20 minutes if they guy is willing to be a cool cat and trust you as much as you're going to trust him when you meet. Mr. Serial Killer or Mr Bad Boy isn't going to pass the tests. And Mr Cool Cat is ALWAYS a better date!
Don't forget to make him pull out that driver's license at the door when you meet!
So don't call/email me for a reference, because I really don't kiss and tell! Discretion is a two way street and I'd rather teach you how to fish than to feed you.
xoxo
Elise
...seemingly has nothing better to do but think up ways to trap us out here. I try to check as many ways from every different angle, but doubly for anyone outhere. I do background checks and job checks, but I like references just to put that extra cherry on top...
Dani
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I will screen, screen, screen. Every provider does have a method of screening. But, for me to feel comfortable, I do ask for both references AND employment info at once. Some references, I do not trust, so at least I have the option of using just that. When I check his employment info, I do look itup on line. I also ask that he tell me, what company I should be calling from, when contacting him: briefly, and discreetly. I would never meet someone, that I could not speak with, directly at work. That lets me know, that he does indeed work there. I know of some ladies who may just meet at a drop of a hat, without screening. That is why I will not use their references. There are a group of ladies, that I do entirely trust, to use as references. That is why, I always ask for both info.
I agree with the comments about providers having different standards of 'ok'. I gave the ok to two providers in their early 20's, only to be blasted after their session with my Mr. ok. The guy wanted to take a shower, multiple pops, too many different positions, DFK, DATY, etc, the basics as far as I am concerned, but obviously not to these particular providers.
I've had providers ask me for a reference, and I've said I wouldn't see they guy again, but offered no further comment, (escort/client privilege to my mind), then been hounded for more info.
The latest request for a reference, the last straw for me, came from a longtime client's girlfriend, who is herself an escort, trying to figure out where he had been when she was working! As a result of saying I had seen him and he was ok, I was dragged into a very nasty screaming match, received repeated phone calls, and had some concern for my own safety.
Just don't ask me for a reference, please!