For example if a girl you seen before said she will see promise to see you again but when the time comes, she says she is busy or not seeing anyone, but you find out she is seeing others whether through a review or through another hobbyist.
What would you tell her if you caught her lying?

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"Thanks for not telling me you find me too repulsive to let me near you again."

Sometimes lies are preferable, don't you find?

If some hooker doesn't want to see you, even for money, but then you find out she is off fucking every other guy, that should tell you something about how she really feels about you. Either move on or swallow your last vestige of pride and see her when SHE wants to see you.

No kidding but a promise is a promise.

Yes, it would have been nice if she was upfront and said "we're not a good fit," but that can open up a can o' worms (the rejectee challenging her, getting pissy or violent). She chose the easy way out for her.  

Or, she could have simply gotten a better offer and doesn't need your business. This is par for the course in this game. Move on (and don't be a dick about it!).

I would just move on. She has zero obligation to see me a second time like I have zero obligation to repeat.

It isn't about obligation. It is about leading on.

Unless lies involve saving a life, then no. I guess Bernie Madoff saying lies is preferable.

Just what are you going to say to her? "fuck you bitch"??? I suppose if it makes you feel better, but this is P4P, It's much easier to just move along. Hurt feelings are for civvie relationships, not hooker/john relationships.

I rather not do that. But if someone lead you on and then promised to see you again but went radio silent yet reviews keep popping up, what should that person say? Just be like "oh well, no biggie" ?

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I'm guilty of it too! After a good orgasm, the little head may make grand proclamations (i.e. "promises") that usually fall by the wayside once the blood returns to the big head. Depending on how good the session was, it usually ranges anywhere from "see you again soon" to "let's take a trip to Hawaii!"  

Sorry if you felt strung along, bro.

Ding ding ding, nailed it

Book with someone else and let yourself have a good time. It's the best way to get over it.

but unless you want to end up "angry and bitter" like every other guy who "fell for a hooker and can't get up" just drop it already, or be prepared to be the new board pinata

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She was texting me for days after the session wanting to see me again. But I was busy with work.

If your hurt over this lead on image your response if she said your dick is too small, you don't bathe enough, your a horrible lover, you seem needy, she just doesn't like you or whatever reason your money isn't good enough for a second date. Move on for some reason your not a match.

By leading on and making a promise, that is worse. But her reputation now is that of a liar.

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about you through other signs. Hence, why she hasn't been available.

I try to be honest, but when it's a situation like this, I'm not honest - just conveniently not available.

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I was never monitoring anyone you idiot. I have a freaking life but I don't like getting lied to.  
I could get care less what others do in their lives.
And you sound like a spawn of Hitler. Just more ugly

Dishonesty is the in thing now it seems.

But this obviously proves that there are more than other reasons that she is not seeing you. She's probably not an idiot by any means, so at least I'll give you that for picking a girl out!

You don't sound like you have much of a life at all. but thanks for making many of us think to ourselves, "at least my life doesn't suck as badly as THIS loser"  

and writing "I could care less what others do" once is believable, posting a dozen times on the subject proves otherwise. You do not only "care" but it is apparently eating you up inside. I bet you are sitting their in your lonely little basement you rent from your mother, just all twisted up inside imagining all those sick, twisted things she is doing with other guys, wishing to yourself she were doing them with you, but knowing she finds you loathsome and that she would rather be with anyone but you. Yes, it must really suck to be you.

to a promise.  

Hey, you wished for the truth from her, and I'm just telling you how you're coming across. Watching her online presence like "You promised to see me!" You may need to look inward for a bit and really see what you're saying here.

This isn't a TV or Vacuum rental. This is a human body and soul. If she doesn't want to do it, then she shouldn't! Who wants a jaded provider who just lets anyone in anyway?

If you PAID for the date, she needs to refund you fully. UNLESS it was a "promised free date".

I've seen that happen about a bad review, and the situation was really sick. I also never saw that guy again, but had NO PROBLEM letting him know why.

That's just asking for trouble while you're in a room alone with a guy.

Finish the date out nicely, since the majority of clients may never call again, say "Yes I'd see you again." "Do you promise?" "Yes, I promise." *fake smile* *hand towel* *open exit door*.

Guy goes home smiling, nobody got upset - all is good. But I'm also thinking I don't know anyone who just walks up to someone else and says "I promise you this" out of the blue. I'm assuming the promise was asked to be made here, which is very manipulative and "trapping".

Thank goodness the lady is smart enough not to be trapped by words she was asked to say. All speculation, but I guess I kind of read a lot on this stuff. *pushes up nerdy glasses*

but sometimes it sure seems to add an exclamation point to the statement.  

Just try adding, "she is probably not an idiot LIKE YOU, by any means" and see how that rolls off your tongue, err keyboard. Who knows, maybe we can turn you into a MHB like H+T with a little work? lol

...or stay away from this game. You clearly are not made for it.

She called me later and promised idiot. Days after I saw her.

Perfect example. I get TONS of guys promising "one day I'm going to take you to Hawaii" during a first 1 hour date or 90 minute date. Sometimes they're serious, but I know most times it won't happen. It's the dick talking lol. So knowing that, I sit and make up a story/fantasy with them, and act excited about what we're going to do, where we're going to go, a room with a balcony where I can blow him by the beach side in a grass skirt, whatever. It's their time, I'll have fun with it.

But does that mean I say, "But you promised you would do it one day during pillow talk! So you owe me 10 thousand G's Mister, plus a trip to Hawaii" Nope.

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Free lesson to anyone who likes to "fight" on the internet. Insults that get the "other guy" mad are winners. Insults because you are losing are losers. This guy has loser written all over him. I think he has two L's on his forehead.

The more I read your posts, the more convinced we all are that she made the right decision.

I have lost track of the number of times during a drunken fuckfest that I have promised to take whichever chica involved to either Manuel Antonio, Playa Jaco, or even San Andres the next day, only to wake up the next morning thinking to myself "what the fuck did I promise last night?" lol

In my defense, on numerous occasions I have actually followed through, but those times are the exception not the rule. As we all know "a hard dick has no conscience", so far be it for me to condemn some hooker for making promises she had no intentions of keeping to a trick.

Just look it up as I doubt you know what it means.

As for your hooker problem, you should stake her apartment out, call the police on her, then be a hero and claim to the officers that she won't see you and that you will be stalking her until you get arrested and convicted.  And expedite the process by dialing 911 once you're in place.  And wear a clown outfit

Dear Creepy Client,

No problem. Either way she's not a vacuum or a hospital visit, or a toy from toys-r-us. She's a human being and doesn't need to explain to you why she's not fucking you if you haven't paid her. And even if you have, she has every right to go back on that promise after the appointment starts and return the money to you.

I don't care if I call you out of the blue and decide on a drunken horny night that "I promise I'll suck your dick again some day." If you do something that makes me get cold feet, (like call me an idiot - ever,) I have every right to retract that promise. OR just ignore you.

For my own sake, I will send a nice email and say "Hey, sorry for my little promise." Then nicely sugar coat a reason as to why we're not a good match.  

But if you call me an idiot, I'll be like "Your promise has been taken back like an ice cream cone out of a kid's hand after the first lick." And then I'll block your email so I don't have to watch you cry about it.

So anyway

Godwin's Law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"[2][3]—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.

Ad Hominem: An argument based on the perceived failings of an adversary rather than on the merits of the case; a logical fallacy that involves a personal attack.

IDK I was thinking about putting a life size clown in my yard that moves whenever someone walks by. But I've decided not to, because I'm a little terrified of clowns at night. (Or stalkers. Those are scary too.)

Some guys actually do it! LOL. So hell yeah I'll get paid to go to Hawaii - hello? But I don't start running up credit card debt - or even get attached to the money until it's in my hand and the job is done. (Or the deposit is made, but only work with the deposit.)

But 90 percent of the time it's a fantasy. And I get that. But to put my hope in someone else's fantasy, I'm only hurting myself.

It is kind of funny to hear the back end of the story though ha.

It's like watching a guy face plant himself over and over and over.  

Can we do collectively do something to ensure he can never procreate.  Cause we already know how it will work out.

Ya just can't fix stupid.

So, you go out on a date with a civvie, and she says she'd love to see you again...then she never answers her texts...she inexplicably disappears off the face of the earth...then, when you continue to pester her, she says she's in a relationship. But you see that she still has an active profile on match.com...and, she's even logged in that morning. What do you do?

OF COURSE, you come to a message board and rant about GODDAMNED LIARS who LEAD MEN ON.  

Then, you should definitely make her aware that you're aware of her every move. Fuck her, for trying to fool you. Bring out every piece of information you've gleaned, and make it clear that you are ON to her game-playing. I mean, does she think you're an idiot or something?  

Maybe then, she will understand that she made a huge mistake, and she will welcome you back.

I see his other posts using ad hominem.

In any event the batmanbegins is just a misguided soul who needs a spanking.

I hardly rely on the TER discussion boards to get laid, so if I piss off a few people, no BFD.  

It's actually funny how my "blunt honesty" has actually endeared me to a few women who you would think would hate me for my posts. I bet you I have even "grown" on you at least a little bit, now haven't I? lol

Yeah, both parties are a little less than 100% forthcoming where sex and promises are involved. The smart people get this, the idiots??? Well, I think the OP is proof of the other side of the coin.

I didn't like you lol. And you know who yack yacks in my ear about once or twice a week right? She has a nice influence too... I think she either met you or wants to, so one of these days maybe we can be so lucky.

But IF we do, we can't make it public or someone may monitor who we're hanging out with hahaha.

And money promises - those are a little tough to learn how to ignore until it happens. Especially when you enjoy shopping lol! But it is what it is lol.

you must be batman

"I was never monitoring anyone you idiot. " Saying someone is an idiot is bringing appeal to emotion words. So ...

Yeah he's getting pretty upset but I think he's getting tired now.

and as long as I am not seen in public with anyone with the initials BS, I should be fine. Actually with my rep, even being seen with the likes of him will hardly be considered damaging.

Never give your credit card - even amex lo

"I'll see you again" and have not done so?

Sometimes as either side backs out the door, a gentle tale is better than an outright nasty "Get Out of my life!"

Move on, the sky is not falling.

What are you, six?

She is under no obligation to see you whether she "promised" or not. She is free to change her mind whenever she likes. Everyone is.

Her "leading you on" does not entitle you to an appointment or anything else.

She no longer wants to see you and tried to let you down easy by saying she wasn't taking appointments. Sure, you can be a little annoyed about it, but then just accept it and move on. Saying something to her about it won't change things and it won't make you feel better.

Let it go and see another sexy chick. Orgasms are great stress relief! After a few orgasms, you won't care anymore about that white lie she told.

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Bet when guys don't show up you go on a tirade especially when they realize they can get a younger woman over you. Promises are an obligation

The more you say, the worse you look.  And you are looking pretty bad.

Your Kung-Fu is weak.  

I've never had the experience of someone not showing up, so I must be doing better than you

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Well getting haggardly you are doing better.

She would have told you right to your face that for any reason she wouldnt see you again? She did the right thing by ending the date nicely like a pro. Otherwise (depending on the person) You made have become angry, or demanding your money back, or who know... aggressive maybe?  

Im not saying that would be you, but you gotta put yourself in the girl's shoes. Im sure your ego may be hurt due to this. We as providers go thru the same thing, I hate when hobbyists tell me, oh I am gonna be back or, you have a new regular right here, and then you never hear from them again... what do you do then? harass them into coming back? Just move on.

Making a fuss about it makes it seem like you're clingy... everyone breaks promises, especially in this business so grow up. Move on to the next & don't be so guilable with the next lady....

Just email her and tell her that you're disappointed.   That you really wanted to see her again, and now that it's clear she didn't mean it when she "promised" to meet with you again (or later changed her mind, whichever the case may be) you are feeling led on.  Perhaps even deceived.  

Keep it very simple and try not to let any emotions into it.  

Then wish her well and sign off.  If this has somehow been a misunderstanding, then she will reply.   If  she does not reply, then you have your answer: for some reason, she decided not to see you again and is now reluctant to tell you so directly.

Let it go.  You'll be happier for it..... I promise.  

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox

Promise to stop whining soon?

It's inappropriate to ask a provider to promise a next visit, just as it would be for a provider to ask that of a client

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If you plan to confront every hooker lying to you, you'll have no time left for play.  Seriously dude, this whole facade is pretty much based on lies.  Don't you get it?

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And it hurts. But I at least know if I email someone who requested I "let him know when I'm in his area", I do once. And if he is "conveniently not available," then I tell him just to watch for my ads and I leave him alone.

No sense crying about it, but it can be confusing and a bit of a bummer if I really liked the guy - which happens. Chemistry happens, and they move on. Still waiting on my second date with probably a hundred people over the last three years lol.

Just the way it is.

But I can't help thinking that there can't really be someone in the world like this. Maybe he's a troll or a bot. I'm thinking he's a troll because he has VIP (an't have an alias without VIP), and he's having us all on. lol!!

I needed some humor today lol.

I always consider it a troll with these types of posts. Because... Nah couldn't be. No way lol

She said you pwomised to show her the bat cave, then backed out, then you pwomised to let her drive the batmobile then made some excuse about your insurance not covering it. Then to top it all off, Alfred told her you are a closet gay. She wants nothing to do with you anymore. Leave her alone.

Well everyone knows in Gotham you have a thing for boys.

That's because you are the least worst option not the best.

This one is ranking up there in Troll land and it certainly has been proving to be a funny thread.

You started this thread and posted in it like 100x. You remind me of someone.....

Her body, her rules. She has the right to change her mind whenever she likes. Sounds like she made the right decision with you. You sound like an entitled jerk. Just let it go and move on. It's just not that big a deal. Accept that she changed her mind, and probably for a good reason. I know that you can work your way through this. Maybe a good cry will help!

Haha ok.

Thanks for playing!

leave her alone and see someone else.

That is what I would do.

Curious what percentage of the ladies are kind of wondering the same.

That was hilarious!

Two, I'd tell her to go fuck herself...

WTF?.....

It's her body but she made the deal. And it is my money also you Nazi. Sounds like your mother forgot to use a condom while drunk.

It's pretty much a given that we're all liars here. Names, ages, weight, availability, double bookings, glossy pics, fake pics, among other things. Since we're all liars, I think it's only fitting that we all do the morally correct thing, and quit the hobby forthwith. How can we live with ourselves knowing we're pond scum?  

On a lighter note, I have two serious accommodations a lady has to make for me to be able to see her. Of the ladies I really want to see, and I turn down thousands by passing by their ads, only about 20% are willing to make those accommodations. The other 80% flat out say no. Even with stellar references, they refuse to see me. Oh well!! No big deal. I just move on with no hard feelings. There's something for everyone here, and I'm very appreciative of the 20% who keep me alive in the hobby.

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Something happened that yu may not be aware of and she is skeeved out by you now. It is her way of saying "fuck off you are not worth the trouble".  

If you want to confront her via email, you will be blocked. If you call her you will be hung up on. Save face and move on.

That hooker dodged a bullet not seeing you again. You are digging a huge hole. Now dive on in and let us bury you. And shut the fuck up you idiot!

Hunt her down and murder her for not keeping her promise?

You are a good reason to get the guys real info. You are unstable, and dangerous. Hookers lie all the time because dumb fucking tricks ask them questions they should never ask