So I was chatting with another provider about a hobbyist inquiry through her email and not through her website screening!
As a new provider and talking with other perfected providers, it struck me as strange how he had provided his references.
First off, all (3) of the providers that he provided rather quickly with had Gmail accounts, but when we typed their emails on a couple different boards nothing came up, until we really dug a little more, none of his references matched the emails he gave us. I mean the names were true, but NONE of the emails matched on their profiles. No phone or websites, just false emails.
How strange does it seem strange to anyone else????
When she had asked him for their sites and numbers he simply replied that they are only reachable through email or they were with an agency. RED FLAG, even I smell that!
So I believe that this guy has created emails closely to actual providers emails and responding as them. So I ask my other wonderful providers, how comfortable do you feel, if you offer references, giving phone verification. I mean, there is nothing sweeter than the sounds of a woman's voice.
If anyone is curious of the guy's info or any of the 'references' he provided please in box me.
This guy and 'references' are based out Boston.
And guy's, I know not all of you, but why does it seem so hard for some to do the screening on the website? I'm a student and generally don't have time for long email banter trying to get info, when can tell me so much in one lengthy *POP*.
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The few times I have been asked to provide references it was asked that I give the website or board that the provider is on. They also would only take providers that could be proven as reputable. Guess this allows the one seeking references to find comtact info themselves and not rely on what could be bogus contact. Now for the most part I just give my profile on P411 or Date-check and I'm good to go with the okays I have there.
Scary to think someone would do this. If they are new then look for newbie friendly providers... we were all there at one point. Stay safe!Yes, safety always comes first. I don't want to run into a guy who uses fake provider emails. Honestly I don't mind doing phone verification, when time permits. If that will make the whole screening process less stressful then I'm all in
That is totally awesome!
And I guess this is the perils of newbie-ism. Yeah, scary to think someone would do this indeed. I'm learning and loving the community and truthfully I don't really want to stray from it. I will definitely stay safe. And it seems like those kind of guys are really pushy and always rushing.Thanks for your feed back!
Be sure to let the gals whose identities he is trying to take over know about his nefarious scheme
Reminds me of a provider who was bugging me for a date, but she was "unknown". I asked her to name "one" other local provider who could vouch for her (you hookers all know each other right?) she couldn't AND this is when it got really weird. She said she could give me several client's personal contact info and they would vouch for her if I wanted to call them. I was just thinking what I would do if one of my providers (soon to be former provider) gave out my contact info to a potential client. Happens all the time right? She was weird and asked lots of questions that no provider would ever ask a client they didn't know. Plus she pushed too hard for dates at very specific times.
We definitely did our homework and found all the providers (and have notified them of these antics). He made minor little tweaks that are not quick to catch and we believe/know he is one responding as those ladies.
I don't think it's a matter of him taking over their identities, but the integrity of the referral system. I mean what does he have to hide????Emails have been sent out to all providers involved.
Of course, you know hoes before bros!
But only real hookers have the balls (maybe literally) to bug someone for a date. LOLAnyone using fake references is trouble. Screening is vital. Anyone not doing do diligence is going to run into trouble.
How did the provider contact you? Was it through TER PM or email?
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Tell him that you contacted those e-mails and the replies said to steer clear of him.
WHAT'S HE GOING TO SAY?? "No you didn't! I didn't get any emails from you! I mean ..." "Liar! I never said not to see me! I replied that I'm a great guy!" "Liar! I spoke to her and she said she told you I was great!" "She lied to you, bubbala, 'cause she told me that you're not trustworthy. If she likes you so much, go see her again." For sure, stay away from that guyI'm Emma's provider friend. I actually heard back from a provider friend of one of the false references. She told me he's actually tried to do the same to her. It's crazy that she called out the providers name before I even emailed her a copy of the emails he sent me.
And I'm sorry you had to deal with something so creepy.
Only similar thing I've encountered was a provider and client that must have been somehow in cahoots. Won't get into the whole story...but she gave him a glowing rec and I ended up in a deliberately unsafe scenario. Moral is be vigiliant and redundancy is key.I typically accept references in addition to p411/datecheck or work ver.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was fake profiles, with fake emails, and fake reviews to go with the fake providers. Just so some guy can provide some references for screening.
I think it's a community issue as well.
Honey, he's trying to pull some sneaky sh*t, but dragging the reputation is another provider into crap and Fu*ked Up. Believe it baby this stuff is real. It isn't that he made fake profiles, he's POSING as reputable providers to perhaps do harm to others. Boards, like TER, do make it safe, but this guy went as far to screen shot and alter the webpage. But you'd have no problem with all your traceable reviews............I so hate hearing that.
Did the provider respond to you via email or phone?I'm thankful that most of the providers I have contacted did not mind me calling them. But thankful that you are able to be here and respond
Sasha has never "bugged" me for a date ...
But only real hookers have the balls (maybe literally) to bug someone for a date. LOL
did she say her house just burned down and she really needed to make money?
There's a TON of people in Atlanta, running that "my house burned down" scam.
If she were in this business I would hope you could afford home insurance.
I already have to pass screening in order to see certain ladies, the ones that screen. That was before I read what you posted. You could be him for all I/We know. I was just expanding upon the deception you already described.
I don't know if he can pose as a reputable provider in order to trick a trick, with out access to her site, and posting an ad posing as her. I don't think you said anything like that was happening. I don't need traceable reviews... 1.) I'm not a provider 2.) I don't use TER as a verification methoAnd I email the address from their TER profile. If they don't have one, I skip over that reference.
That's exactly what I did, but the emails he provided didn't match up. I had to do a search based on the names he gave me to find the providers, who in fact have profiles on ter with reviews. He never heard from me after that.
and ask where they'd like to go. If they say Dunkin Donuts, that's a lock that they're LE.
Funny, I haven't seen her around. I'm guessing she madeva shitty hooker so she's back to writing tickets.
She had a kid in the hospital or so she said. She was from a another now defunct board. She contacted me though my email from that board out of the blue. Acted like she knew me. When I asked who she was she gave me the contact info of several other male members of that site with real names and board names. Scared me. I never seen her. She scared me giving out info like she did. I was really new at the time and not quit out
You're a liar AND a moron. What the hell do you think reviews are if not a verification method to make sure the ladies are legit? Not to mention that all of us (providers and hobbyists) are playing together, so if someone is pulling crap, you'd better bet your ass that it's affecting ALL of us on BOTH sides of the equation.
Okay Van, explain to me how this guys behavior is effecting me. I could see if you say his behavior makes the screening process more difficult for me. However screening is already a task.
... see I did think how it could effect me. Also, what am I lying about? You said, now why don't you back it up with some substance.Heck yeah,
I've been learning personally from some of the best ladies that have been around for a good while. Glad to give some insight. I think honest and open communication is key. I'd want to know if I, in any way, made you uncomfortable and I'd hope you'd do let me know the same as well.