Let's say you give your ATF a gift that is valued at almost or exactly what her rate is, Are you then expected to give up the rate too??

If you do give her the rate and the gift, Would it be stupid of you to expect some "extra" time beyond the usual 1hr deal? (provided she of course had no other "friends" waiting in the wings for her)

Do some providers appreciate a gift, sometimes, instead of the $$$?

How often is the rate dropped in exchange for a Gift? I've heard of this occurring but not sure how often and if a provider would frown upon it if all you started bringing was gifts, albeit nice expensive gifts...

Providers/Hobbyists, drop me some intel on this!

Suppose your ATF gives you a nice expensive gift instead of "companionship".  The gift is valued at almost or exactly what her rate is.  Does she still have to give you "companionship"?  If she does, would it be stupid of her to expect you to give her more $$$ ?

Sorry but I can't give a straight answer.  It's too depressing.  
Look up the word "gift".  It does not mean "trying to get a deal".

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you will need to make sure whoever you see accepts gifts as a barter instead of cash,

i sometimes allow it as long as it is something SPECIFICALLY from my wishlist,

but usually i don't, because cash can be spent to pay my rent whereas a gift, unless you give me the reciept so i can return it, cannot be used to pay my rent

It's really quite simple . . .

Think of gifts like a "tip" at a restaurant.  You still HAVE to pay for the meal - but if your service is outstanding - you usually add a nice tip.  

Bottom line:  Don't be a cheap bastard!  Take care of your providers.  If they're THAT good to you - take extra-special care of them.  They have lives too.

"too depressing"

Riiight...Anyway, I know what the word "Gift" means dickmeister but I've heard of this taking place so I was just wondering if it is a common occurance.

And your analogy doesn't make sense.

What you're talking about is clearly not a gift, it's barter and that's a business decision that needs to be dealt with upfront.

For me gifts are exactly that and the only consideration I would hope for is they appreciated the thought that went into it.

and see what they say. It sounds like you are trying to be a cheapass and ladies will smell that from a mile away. Plain and simple if you want 2 hrs pay for 2 hrs. Trying to weasle more time will make her hate u call you on your cheapness and not see you again unless shes desperate for cash. Also Im pretty sure level of service will be gift appropriate.

I have been there and done that........and NO, even when I thought we had worked it out.....her gift being a red dress (for 3 bills plus) that she saw in the hotel shop......we agreed that it was for 1 hour extra. She did not wish to cover her end saying she had another appointment. What do you do? You take your medicine and move on. I would have writtena  review but I hate to say something bad about anyone. I was the stupid one and if it is barter.....then that will be the SOLE cost of the encounter......not barter for extras. Live and learn

The above being stated HOWEVER, I do like to give something up front.......especially if it is someone I have been with before and it was special. As for flowers and such, that is a given for me EVERY time.

colleged ruled yellow notepads.  Everyone needs
paper right?  They're only slightly irregular.

Any gift you decide to give is your choice. If you expect anything in exchange, it's not a gift.

The only exception is if you and the provider have agreed to something else.

Bring me a brand new 802.11 capable laptop.. and you dont have to pay my rate

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If you go out and buy a really nice envelope to put your donation in, do you deduct the dollar you spent on the envelope just because you didn't seal it?

I've heard some ladies barter but you should clarify it up front.  A gift, however, is a gift.  If the lady gives you extra that means she appreciated the gift.

-- Modified on 4/12/2005 6:06:13 AM