There's a lady traveling to SD who posted her bio and link, asking that all read her site fully before booking an appointment. I decided to read it, and am glad I did. While some of the wording is a bit 'iffy', I thought it was great - takes the guesswork out of expectations, that's for sure!

Her site is very well-done, but she does make it clear in the text that sexual acts will be occurring; i.e. she mentions everything will be covered; not to place fingers in her ass; don't lick her ass during cunnilingus, etc.

Traditionally, most escort websites are intentionally vague in their wording. Nothing explicit is ever mentioned, and many have disclaimers on the first page that the website is not an offer of prostitution.

(I remember thinking it was a bit risky to even mention kissing in my own site.)

Most of our sites are vague, to keep LE at bay, and to make it more ladylike.

I certainly can understand this particular lady's wish to apprise potential clients of her likes and dislikes, but I suppose it could be argued she could let them know during the visit itself. Plus, hobbyists can use TER reviews to get an idea ahead of time what a session will be like.

Perhaps the lawyers among us could tell us whether it's a waste of time being deliberately vague.

However, if it turns out a vague website is just as damning as as frank one (to LE), in my opinion it's more polite to leave the explicit language out.

Maybe the men here will feel differently?

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I have been wondering how often escort's personal websites attract the wrong kind of attention, especially with such clarity about what the person does...

pretty gutsy.

It just show a lot of chutzpa (sic?) though.

But, you can not be arrested, for the words on a website. A Lady would have to AGREE to or ACCEPT money (in person) for a sex act or commit an act of prostitution to be arrested.

I wouldn't be as gutsy, but I'm not one to judge a person that is, as it is her right to do so. I'm sure, if she has had any problems, she would have taken it down.

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I notice that she credits the frank page to a lady from Texas.   Not to deal in cultural stereotypes, but if you read the page with Texas in mind (i.e. if you know any ladies from Texas, and imagine those words drawling from their sweet lips)... it is just sayin' some stuff that needs to be said.

Bravo, I say!  Hope it doesn't cause Amber (or Maggie, for that matter) any trouble.  

Saxman

Although I can certainly appreciate her candidness (as I like to think I am that way too), it's a bit lengthy to read. I guess that's the editor in me. Some could be distracted by that but certainly intrigued.  I think it's fabulous that she's so open, but I think she could have shortened it.  By using appropriate wording, she could have saved herself and others a lot of time. However, to each his/her own, and it's great to be different. I believe a little mystery goes a long way too.  Just my .02.

Hugs,
Ciara

I've used Maggie’s exact words (I only titled it Encounters and added the first 4 lines of the page) for nearly 3 years now actually. I told her I wouldn't edit her words, and I keep my word. I see many newbie’s, and they always express how helpful it was. Encounters has carried on even when my URL changed.

I've never encountered any troubles with the page or with my site even. If somebody is out to get me, I think it will take place regardless of what words I use from somebody else. I have escorted to approx. 13 states. I have seen sites with women doing acutal sex acts on the same page as their rates and on the bottom of that page having the "this is not an act of..."

Communication is key to anything. When I first started escorting, I didn't know what to put on it, I checked other sites only to find that I had more questions afterwards. So I put myself into the shoes of a hobbiest, and answered information that I was comfortable answering. Since I prefer not to be a parrot by email, I rather have it on my site, and allow people to read everything without even having to contact me, until he knows he wants to contact me.

There are men that get online, to seek pictures of women, they may find your site, my site, or some other site...if they come across my site, and if I can educate at least a few men with reading material  to  improve their encounters with women then I did my job by using my friends words. I also have two books for reading on my links page.

And sadly regarding reviews, I can not express how many times I have to repeat myself tell emailers or callers to read my reviews, but they don't, and during the appointments its obvious when the reviews weren't read with his "oh I thought..."

I figure it like this: When I lay everything on the table, and express everywhere to first read my site (and reviews if you wish) before emailing/calling me, if you book an appointment with me, without reading such information, and you didn't care too much for the session, that’s on HIM not on ME, because I wasn't being shady about anything nor was I trying to pull a quick one on him. But as anything in life, YMMV.

XOXOXOOX
Amber Moore of Oakland

I said I like your candidness. But it is very lengthy. That's all. Some men, no matter if they are asked to read your site beforehand, will not. That's been proven. I have things on my site that they still email me about and I say to myself, "Duh, didn't you read my website?"  However, I sit back and ponder it and then I realize that everyone is in a hurry these days and how forgetful I can be at times too. No matter what you put on your site, people will still ask the same questions. It might help with most gentlemen who take the time to read (if they really care), but not everybody feels like you. I like your site and candidness, but I'm just being honest and giving my opinion. I'm an editor, so I always look to shorten things. That's one of my jobs. Please don't take it personally. I'm always finding new things on my site that I should either add or take away. I just meant that you probably could have said everything you needed to say in a more condensed paragraph. That's all. You're beautiful and you should do whatever makes you feel comfortable anyway.


Peace & hugs,
Ciara

Recently the cold hard truth of "IAATM" has become painfully apparent to me. It is therefore almost prophetic a website so informative and business-like that it comes off cold in its execution should come to light.  I admire the lady's candor but I am suspicious that all the frankness could be a tool that she could use to justify a less than acceptable session or "experience".

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Although the contract is trying to set out a standard, it is still YMMV depending on several things. Client-provider chemistry is not always right the first or second or third time due to differences in mind-set, communication, values, and even in the interpretation of the rules. That's why in the corporate world, merger success always depend on unwritten rules and goodwill. There is such a term as 'incomplete contracts' because everything cannot be made explicit. I even know of a fellow who has written a Ph.D dissertation about incomplete contracts.  And if I'm a client and have to memorized 8 pages of rules, will that be all I will be thinking of when I meet a provider? I won't feel very spontaneous and at ease. Just my 2 cents. LOL.

control, but it is often a turn-off, that stymies the spontaneity of sex.

then I'm the type that likes good communications - and that is not always so possible in the hobby.

Much of it sets the tone for a meeting. I'm ok with that.

Seems like one of the big points of Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style" could be profitably employed in places - the point of using as few words as possible while still communicating clearly.

The "Encounters" page on her site was taken verbatim from what appears to be another provider's post.  The last portion of that is very direct and almost jarring compared to the sections that I suppose Amber wrote.  Perhaps it could be massaged a bit to fit better with the tone of the rest of the site, if the original author was agreeable?

Beyond all that, she's certainly a very attractive lady!  Pretty smile. Wonder what her eyes are like?  Wonder if she'd e-mail me photo?

I too enjoyed the mention of the desire to have repeat company.  From a personal standpoint when my favorite regular ladies retired I missed them.  It usually takes a lot of time and money to locate new favorite regular ladies.  From chatting with other hobbyists I think that many of them actually share your perspective in that they are primarily seeing a regular lady that makes them happy.  They don't tend to make as much noise as some of the guys doing the bragging but I believe they may actually represent a majority of the more seasoned hobbyists.  

I think several other things may impact frequency and repeat rates depending upon the provider.  Let's say you have a top rated provider that has a 3 hour minimum for $2000.  Because she is a highly rated provider she is going to get some appointments from gentlemen that do not have the financial resources to see her on a regular basis. For them she is a once in a lifetime treat and that is it.  Next let's exclude the hobbyist with a large say $5,000 per month or unlimited budget.  Let's say that a hobbyist books a date with this lady with the hope that if things go well he may see her on a semi regular basis.  She has the advantage of having 3 hours to make a great impression on this guy so that he will want to come back.  From the hobbyist perspective with the relatively high ticket price on this date if things don't go almost perfectly or unless he feels they will on a subsequent date he is not likely to repeat.  Instead of taking a second chance he is more likely to try and find happiness with another lady.  I think that is a lot of pressure to put on the outcome of the first meeting but I think that is the reality in a lot of instances.