After watching report after report on the news about young men (often 19-23 years old) doing horrific crimes, I can't help but wonder if these guys were simply getting laid, would this make them less pissed off at the world?

Are women truly the answer to man's misdeeds?  I rarely hear about a guy who's getting laid regularly going BSC and shooting up innocent people.

Discuss.

he had a harem of young women and still went bonkers and killed a bunch of folks

END OF MESSAGE

Or glorify any names that definitely don't deserve it, but don't you think that in general, the psychos who commit atrocious crimes against people they don't even know were *probably* not involved with ANY women in any sexual way/shape/form?

Sex is not a cure all, but it sure helps. But the ones that go BSC has a lot of mental problems. I don't think they can have a boy friend / girl friend relationship ( unless the SO is also BSC ). So with your premise, should we get all the BSC young adults a provider session regularly. But what provider would see them? Most providers have min age of 40 or 30, no?  

Has anyone ever got a teenage virgin laid? any before and after comments?

When I was in high school back in the 80s, I remember one kid was getting all excited one Friday because he was going to lose his virginity with a hooker that weekend  ( his older cousin set it up ). So when Monday morning rolls around, we asked him how was the weekend. He told us that it was over really quick. The story went something like this...My cousin drove me to this house and told me to wait in the car. He came out with this woman and she took a look at me and started walking back to the house. She did not look too happy and I can hear her talking really loud -no- but not sure what and my cousin had his arm around her shoulder and kept talking to her in a really low tone. They both went back in the house and he came out a few minutes later and said you are good to go. He went in & the woman/hooker took his hands and lead him into the bedroom. The woman told him to take off his clothes and then she told him to take off his underwear. I specifically remember the kid saying "She said don't worry, I am not going to hurt you." She put a condom on him and mounted him with a few deep strokes, the kid came. And that was it. The kid's comment to us was "sex is not that big of a deal."

Can you imagine? I wonder how is he doing right now. That first encounter with an unwilling hooker probably fucked up his sex life for good.

Testosterone needs an outlet and will find one in either sex or aggression (or both).  

But, I think the mass murderer types are just nuts, and non self-induced orgasms probably won't help.

Maybe some girls will lighten up on their age limits based on this or other replies.  Or maybe not.  I don't know.

No, sex will not fix shit lol. If people who got laid all the time were actually happier, you would never see a pissed off provider. That's about as nuts as suggesting sex can make you lose weight more than hitting the stairs (real stairs) five days a week... again, you would never see a provider over 100 lbs. lol.  

Most guys in the hobby use sex like a drug, meaning the high does not last. They need hotter, better, more kink etc. to keep filling that void that is missing.

END OF MESSAGE

Actually I would guess that most people's first time was nothing like they expected.

Well except for me, while I was admittedly far from "studly" my first time, the "older" woman of 17 was HOT HOT HOT, and I don't care how lousy a lay I was, she was still quite memorable. OTOH I doubt that she even remembered my name two days later.

Though it is a valid point. It is just not factual.

But, yeah, it is a variation on an old excuse guys use - we have to have sex or we can't be responsible for what happens.

On a happier note, this study is a chuckle, point being that it is not about having sex, having as much sex as possible, or some such - people are happiest when they have the right amount of sex for them. Which could be none I suppose.

zig

I was really just wanting to explore this subject because I notice there are patterns of the types of guys doing some of the worst stuff, and 1) they're never women and 2) they never seem to give off that "He's hot/doable" vibe.

-- Modified on 6/29/2015 5:22:42 PM

END OF MESSAGE

Sex - really good sex - can fix many things, but it can't fix crazy.  At least not permanently.

There are probably a fair number of guys that given a regular, safe outlet for their sexual energies that would make them less aggressive.  But there would still be social deviants.  And not social deviants like us folks - I mean the bad kind.  

There are many interesting and spectacular ways the human mind can break and sex isn't a cure for that.  And as was mentioned - psychopaths and sociopaths don't have normal relationships so sex probably isn't in the cards for them.

But as a healthy distraction for most normal males, yes, sex is just what the doctor ordered.  Well, Dr. Feelgood anyway.  LOL

Some can be REALLY nasty with the thins they back channel.

Steph xoxo

There are women running away from the west and joining ISIS to marry ISIS men and it is not stopping them.  

-- Modified on 6/29/2015 11:38:32 AM

I feel like that kind of thinking reinforces the damaging, misogynistic idea of male entitlement.  "Gee if women would just give these men what they want, we wouldn't have any problems."  

::shudder:

Exactly

END OF MESSAGE

I truly hadn't formed any certain opinion of whether there's any cause/effect or correlation btwn no sex as a young man and violence/radical/psych behavior.  I just wanted to explore this because id never heard this spoken of, but have thought it.  The media, for example, often asks, "What makes these young men snap?" and there's never much of an explanation.

-- Modified on 6/29/2015 6:27:43 PM

I can't see any appeal of wanting a guy who's pissed off all the time, every day, 24/7/365 but maybe someone does...???

Disagree.  For example, Elliot Rodgers (the 22 year-old sociopath who went on a killing spree in Isla Vista last year) could probably be considered conventionally attractive by a lot of people.  And much of his motivation was to "punish" the type of woman that he felt rejected by. I don't know that hotness or "doable-ness" has too much to do with it. If you want to dig into what goes into the creation of a serial, spree, or mass murderer in this country, you really need to explore things like race, privilege, and mental health.  But that's a whooooooole different can of worms lol.

Are you in there on the initial questioning of some 19-23 y/o kid who shoots up the place?  I don't recall the news sources discussing if some guy had sex a day (or week) before going on a shooting spree.  And how about all the young women getting recruited by ISIS to come and blow themselves up for the greater good.  Are those young women sex starved too?
 

Oh! I wasn't saying that that was YOUR thinking lol.  Just that when people do try and equate a lack of sex with that kind of sociopathic behavior, they're giving credit to the idea that men are entitled to sex because not fulfilling that need can be dangerous.  There's a lot to unpack here, but I'm not about to go down that rabbit hole lol. Either way, interesting topic

I heard there's a school shooting every 2 weeks in the states, like that is crazy. I think the real cause is just not enough socialization and money. Thing with BSC is if you somehow meet the demands of BSC they might just make up new demands to further justify their behavior.

Pretty near getting the same kind of release/pleasure from it. Just a guess.

Maybe it is precisely because these dudes have so much problems with sex (physical, mental, social... sexual disability) to start with that they became frustrated lonely world haters? and not the other way around...

but I'm afraid for the vast majority it comes down to parents being parents, and good parenting skills. I hear all the time, "I want to be my child's friend" or "don't do that, buddy". A parent is not their children's friend, they are their parent.  

And this comes from me, I am not a parent. But there are folks who should be parents and there are folks like me who shouldn't. I'm just mature enough to recognize that I'm too fucking selfish to be a parent and that I don't need to buckle to society's pressure of the image that everyone should have children.

Too bad more people don't recognize their limitations.

END OF MESSAGE

END OF MESSAGE

Does pyscho behavior repel women, or does lack of women cause men to become pyscho?  Not a real question exactly but a thought...

Another interesting theory that a client told me:  He was a father of two boys, 11 and 13.  He said that his boys were at a stage where they loved to go out with their bee-bee (?) guns and shoot EVERYTHING that moved.  Birds, squirrels, rabbits, critters, etc.  He told me that he and his wife let them shoot all the animals because if parents scold boys at that age for killing creatures that they'd grow up and kill people.  I don't know if this is BS and I'm a girl so I have no idea and have never wanted to shoot a gun or an animal for that matter, but I always remembered this.

childhood, but I don't think it's permissive parenting. Rather, I think it's abusive parenting. Sociopathy is often caused by traumatic events in early childhood- often even before children are able to remember. Reactive attachment disorder is fairly common in institutionalized children (kids stuck in the foster system), and is according to many irreversible.

for sure- not necessarily sex, but definitely love.

grow up to be serial killers...see #3:
http://www.crimemuseum.org/blog/9-early-warning-signs-for-serial-killers-2

But I think women also need men.  Straight men.  Who else would change our flat tire and carry our heavy ass bags?  And kill bugs.  Men are good with bugs.

I'm talking target practice.  Little vermin.  Pigeons and rodents.

Edit- Yikes!  I really don't know.  Maybe someone who was a boy or raised boys could comment.


-- Modified on 6/29/2015 9:12:36 PM

I think it has more to do with rage against women. For whatever reason be it an strong or overbearing mother, or constant rejection by women they feel they deserve to be with.

END OF MESSAGE

Our relationship is still bad, lets have a baby. Maybe another baby will fix it."  

I guess to answer the OP, how do you know they aren't already getting laid? I have never heard a newscast say, "Johnson, 20, killed a bunch of people this morning because he didn't get laid last night."

And women don't care about sex.  Meaning, if we get it, awesome!  If not, we're not going to go on a shooting rampage.

END OF MESSAGE

Sex is the question.

(With a nod to Mr. Natural.

END OF MESSAGE

attentive and caring partner. Not some gross, heavy handed, unclean slob whose idea of foreplay is "are you awake?"

I have a better solution for these men - castration. That might calm them the fuck down. Why women need to be the sacrificial party in this is absurd.

Oops, wait a second. I see a LOT of hot women with low life losers who are anything but "attentive or caring"  

I think there might be a small flaw to this argument.

Killing for joy, yeah, something wrong with that. Those two little shits are vermin...let me have a shot and I do not want to use a bb gun.

You either don't know any BSC hookers or your definition of "angry" must be a LOT different from the rest of us.

You should have seen some of the "whore wars" fought here on TER , and even worse those fought on BackPage and before that on Craigslist. Those bitches were "getting down" and doing and saying some NASTY shit to each other. Things like posting graphic ads for each other using their REAL names and addresses, I saw one where this biatch posted an ad for another hooker that she was at war with, using her MOTHER's real name, phone number, and address, complete with directions to her mothers home. Talk about vicious. You haven't seen vicious until you have met a truly BSD hooker. but maybe your were talking about "hookies"??? I assume "hookies" are nicer than hookers. lol

END OF MESSAGE

That it amazes me there aren't more lesbians, or at least more bi women, than there are. The human female body is a masterpiece, it's remarkable that with all other animal species it's the male that is most beautiful and ours the female is most beautiful. I often think that it's because the human female is the most beautiful, that this is the reason insecure males (Muslims and other religious zealots) oppress women and force them into a mental state of second class citizenship.  

I agree wholeheartedly, men need women way more than women need men. Recently, I saw a provider that was describing a male friends difficult relationship with his GF and the provider told me an utter truth, "the pussy makes men go to some great lengths to do some crazy things". Hell yes it does, this is why I'd rather pay for it with cash, because I'm unwilling to pay for it by going to great lengths to do crazy things. That fucking thing is like gold, it makes men compromise everything to get it.

I shall stick to just my POV, because clearly some women need help.

It really gets me when men say women don't care about sex. Oh we care, we just hate bad sex and will do anything to avoid it...unless it is p4p then we at least get paid...lol

Does it stop gang violence?  You dont think the guys running those gangs are knee deep in pussy?

 

BS that is. You got it right the first time. The worst thing that those parents instilled in their children is that they somehow have a right and/or power to kill for entertainment and pleasure.