That would very interesting to see how a provider would handle it,
The hobbyest would have to give the provider all his personal information, doubt that would really happen.How would you get the real information about the hobbyest, if all you have is their handle?
Sure you could subpoena, TER for the information, but you would have to go thru international courts.
By the time you get it done, the cost would be way out of hand. Then find a lawyer to take the case, You would have to to to trial, admit in open court that you are breaking the law.
(unless you are in Nevada),
The hobbyest would have to do the same thing.
I'm sure this would open up a whole bunch of problem, I can't think of All over a review What a cluster fuck that would be
I read this from time to time on many provider's ads. Not an uncommon thing right?
Hobbyists have you ever had the opposite happen to you, where the lady makes you sign a document forbidding you from leaving a review? Would this be a turn off? I have heard of providers doing it but I don't know if it's merely a rumor or a real thing. I bet it can be a real boner killer if people actually do this. As it may lead to complacent sessions and half hearted efforts.
Discuss.
And I've never had a girl ask me to sign a document forbidding a review. That would be silly on a couple of levels. First of all, what would be binding about it? You certainly wouldn't sign it with your real name, would you? Also, if she's on TER it would be grounds for de-listing. Makes no sense at all.
That would very interesting to see how a provider would handle it,
The hobbyest would have to give the provider all his personal information, doubt that would really happen.
How would you get the real information about the hobbyest, if all you have is their handle?
Sure you could subpoena, TER for the information, but you would have to go thru international courts.
By the time you get it done, the cost would be way out of hand.
Then find a lawyer to take the case, You would have to to to trial, admit in open court that you are breaking the law.
(unless you are in Nevada),
The hobbyest would have to do the same thing.
I'm sure this would open up a whole bunch of problem, I can't think of
All over a review
What a cluster fuck that would be
Escorting is not illegal. Escort services are illegal if the service being offered includes sex.
Even TER when you google it - reads -
"The Erotic Review is the top community of escorts, hobbyists and service providers."
TER also separates escorts from service providers so all depends if such paper was complied by ESCORT ( such ind never would mention any sex activities ..and she may compile an agreement particularly asking NOT to mention sex services - that just would work for her in court - and it is a client who would be prosecuted.
Who in own mind would admit he paid for sex? So it is very easy to take to court.
yet just manage your escorting experience with seeing true escorts and not service providers. That is safer.
I am for instance am escort and do offer social rates which are reflected now in my donation hour and half as 700 and what can happened between two adult .. Oh well .. that is behind close doors and I am not going to make any contacts to review me to not to review He should know better
Come back after you've served your time and let us know how it went.
from one and other
I think I read one place how one nice respectful escort form TeR took her clint to court and judge did order him to pay?
I can t recall who did it and where I did read- but I did - may be someone would remind me this story and clarify Jacks state of mind
regarding of escorts and sell of the sex?
Just seek for escorts and never buy sex.
I just never would respond to vulgar and disrespectful email discussing illegal things.
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Have asked that I not submit a review.. One felt it could be used against her if LEO ever got involved.. but never a signed contract.. The contract is the product of an illegal act so that sort of contract cannot be supported (of course).. That is Contracts 101..
Actually it is not so clear the contract is automatically void ... because proving criminality is not automatic either.
Having sex is not illegal. Only pay for play is illegal.
Can I have a confidentiality agreement with a mistress? Probably.
The pay for play part is only one part of it. I'm not sure either party would be too eager to bring that up in the proceedings.
And if they do it might only cover that portion, not the other aspects of confidentiality.
So I wouldn't go by this assessment that confidentiality agreements are automatically null and void in a provider/client relationship
Wherein doctrines such as voidness for illegality could be raised.
At this point -- you're in litigation. It's highly unlikely the P4P facts would not come out.
And, if the agreement only covers the "play" part and not the "pay," I'm still not sure it's not a contract in furtherance of crime and therefore void.....interesting question though
We can always say "get a lawyer's advice." The down side of that is that in just about every court case, 50% of lawyers end up losing.
At this point -- you're in litigation. It's highly unlikely the P4P facts would not come out.
And, if the agreement only covers the "play" part and not the "pay," I'm still not sure it's not a contract in furtherance of crime and therefore void.....interesting question though
So the criminal aspect would only arise if one of the parties to the contract would be interested in pursuing a criminal case against the other party. Otherwise it stays as a civil proceeding. If the P4P details came out, either party would still have to prove it to nullify the contract, which takes the whole thing in another direction. I think what souls was saying is that that is unlikely because neither party would be willing to implicate themselves criminally to win a civil case. That would just be stupid. But some people are, I suppose.
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That in itself would be revealing the P4P aspect, and that would in turn nullify any non disclosure agreement as you can't have a ""legal" contract to not disclose details of a criminal act. So the entire premise is ludicrous and laughable, and makes about as much sense as an LE check
Gotta agree with GaG on this one. This thread is based on a contract of no reviews (if I'm correct) so if a review were published anyone would be fucked anyway that were crazy enough to get legal with It and take it to court.
Btw, this is the craziest and almost as stupid a thing as I have ever heard of! A contract between an escort, a hooker, a courtesan (or whatever people call any of us) and their client, is just plain freaking dumb Imho.
Maybe pornstars? Yes, maybe I could see that but simply just a no reviews contract is.......well pretty much useless unless all involved are just idiots.
Hugs and kisses
T
A contract to conceal a crime would be void. But you could properly have a contract not to reveal person information, I think. That would likely be enforceable -- assuming, of course, both parties know each other's names.
There's only one provider I know on that close a basis, and by that point you already trust each other so what's the point?
not in practice. Just ask Charlie Sheen. For years, his standard non-disclosure agreement was just to prevent any woman from saying they had sex with him, with no mention of money involved. Other celebs have had similar non-disclosers with hookers, groupies SB's, civvie girls, etc. They simply agree they will not ever claim they had sex with the celeb
I have never been asked to NOT submit a review. I have been asked to SUBMIT a review (assumption being we had a great session, etc....I have also been asked to do a NEW review-making it more current time wise, but to reiterate-I have never been asked (yet) to NOT do one.....And my thought is that if a gal is in the business and is on this and perhaps similar sites-if in the upfront discussions I was told DO NOT DO A REVIEW OF OUR SESSION-I would likely not have a problem with that as there would be no session to review !!
+1! If we advertise here we should expect a review if you are on here as well. If there were such a contract, it'd probably be best to not be on this site at all. This whole contract thing just is insane anyway UNLESS the lady is a pornstars. That, I totally get.
XOXO,
TL
perhaps with some high profile individuals ?
If lets say you are in Nevada where this shit is legal, and lets say
I'm a Justin Bieber ( hahaha ) I may ask the provider to sign some kind of
Confidentiality agreements , but as LamontCranston69 mentioned , you'd have to
disclose your personal info . I don't know ,It seems like if you are rich and famous you
have to fuck yourself LOL (JK)
I don't know about this , I think this is a big cluster fuck .....
ohh , I got an idea , instead of Confidentiality agreement why don't
you put on a ski mask before going into a session and no one will know who you are ... hahahahaha
Confidentiality agreements are completely worthless and unenforceable where it comes to illegal activities.
I would simply sign it as GaGambler. lol
The only thing such a document would prove is that at least one of the parties signing it is a moron.
to enforce things like this.
We could have the trial held on the Legal Corner Board, and punishments could be meted out on the BDSM Board.
This could be a lot of fun, and I volunteer to be judge, jury, and executioner. (I love efficiency.
I'm with you on that one! Lol!!
XOXO,
TL
If I were confronted by a provider with this type of contract I would immediately take my donation & leave & post a thread on my local board about this practice. Incidentally I tell the provider that I am a reviewer & if she has a reasonable objection I wont post a review.
pursued by high profile individuals. I was only asked once to enter into one with a radio show person many years ago, but I declined the offer. The contracts wouldn't mention the business aspect- they are just attempts to protect the person with the most to lose if it got out that they slept with someone. As has been posted, the business aspect would render the contract useless. But there are also situations where SDs and SBs enter into these, such as in mistress cases. I've never seen such a contract, but it would be interesting to see how they're worded.
My word is all she should need.
I have been and continue to be very fortunate, one of the reasons for that is that I respect the responsibility of keeping my word.