I'd Love to get the perspective of woman and men on my recent encounter...

I set a follow up date with a lady of which I am very fond of.  She needed to change the time of our date (she gave me a week's notice) I was more than happy to accommodate.  She asked if we could start at 4 and then said if I arrived earlier 30 mins or so that was cool as well.  I said no problem.

After a week of her emailing nice sexy emails, requesting my outfit request, saying hello etc...The day finally came.  I arrived at 3:40 for our 1 hour date.  We had a great time and as expected our time flew by.  Next thing I knew it was a few mins past 5.  

She was giving me a wonderful back massage as we chit chatted about our lives.  I said, I'm so sorry, I am past an hour.  She said no problem.  She knew I had other plans later than night around 6:30  and she told me to stay until my dinner plans.  I said, I really appreciate that but, I only booked an hour and I want to respect your time.  But, I did ask to take a quick shower as I was covered in oil and her cum.  (This was a repeat date )  

I took a quick showered and got changed.  I reached into my wallet and I only had $60.  I laid it on the dresser.  I felt bad, b/c I don't want to take advantage of this woman or her kindness  I think she charges an extra $200 for the extra 30 mins.  
She only comes to my area once or twice a year.  I do plan to make it up to her when she comes back.    

Ladies - how would you like your gentle to respond under these circumstances

and it sounds like she is a "nice" generous giving provider.

Just like an asshole and a bitch "deserve each other" so do two good people.

If you have any feelings of guilt, why not send her a nice email, thank her for both the great session and the extra time so she feels appreciated along with a promise to not only rebook with her the next time she comes to town, but that you plan on giving her a "nice little surprise" the next time you see her.  

I bet you it will make her day.

BTW, you most definitely did NOT take advantage of her, she OFFERED, you did not DEMAND. There is a HUGE difference here. but I bet she would love to hear it from you how much you noticed and appreciated the extra she gave you.

That is an answer why in states I just prefer to be a companion.
Seems as many american women as well.  
Oh american middle class men - any hope in you becoming more upbeat, more how to say- intelligent?  
It was fun to read how you was covered in her cum  
I think many did enjoy that reading  
Why I think - you are from middle west and she is from Russia?  
Match made in heave

Sometimes time gets away from us a little.  If you had an extra $200 on you then it would have been great to give that much more.  But you gave whatever you had a tip to show your appreciation for the fact that she was willing to be relaxed about the time.  She invited you to stay, so it doesn't sound like she was counting the seconds until you left in her mind.  I think we all feel disappointed when we go above and beyond what we've been booked for and the client doesn't reciprocate in some manner by going above and beyond on his end.

Yes she charges $200 for the extra 30, but you didn't agree to pay for that.  It's debatable who is responsible for keeping track of the time unless her website says otherwise.  She gave a little extra on her side and you showed your appreciation for giving a little extra on your side.  Most providers I know, myself included, would appreciate the gesture.

If the money is not an issue for you, you really like her, and you wanna be absolutely sure she feels fully compensated for her time, why not drop her an Amazon gift card for the remaining $140 to her email address?  They are delivered almost instantly, can be used to purchase almost anything, and are fully safe and anonymous for her to receive from you digitally.  

I always have enough "extra" on me to cover up to one additional hour plus tip at the posted rate, because sometimes I'M the one that wants to extend if I'm have a great time and her schedule permits us to extend.  If you make this your practice, you will never be short on the tip if she does something extra special for you, like you describe, that warrants demonstrative appreciation.

It's far, far more anonymous.

I'd heard great things about it and used it for the first time myself yesterday (and actually in a very similar situation) and it worked like a charm. And the young lady involved was, I think, genuinely surprised and thrilled to get the gift.

Ahhhhhh....Russians.  
The unwashed peasants who like to think of themselves as Europeans.

I'm gonna cry.....But I like you as the asshole that you are...don't be getting soft on us....lol

I can definitely understand if any one were to think it was not really me who authored that post. lol

If so find an appropriate item and send it to her.

Otherwise there are other good suggestions in the thread.

You were WAY too easy on this ass clown.  First of all, what kind of a douche bag walks around with only $60 in his wallet?  And even if that was the case, since he was at her incall, which was probably a hotel, all he needed to do was to go down to the lobby and find a fucking ATM.  Failing that, how far is an ATM from anywhere in America?
The guy is a dick and you're a wuss for giving him a pass, even though she told him not to worry about it.  This is a classic case of CYA on the OP.

There is a huge difference between "Stunning" and simply "Stunned"  

"Stunning" is what we call some of the Russian hookers forty years younger than you, "stunned" is what happens when you hit yourself on the head, in your case after passing out from too much vodka. lmao

And you are "almost" right about that one part, People would most likely die "rather" than to "be as you" I can see someone taking a long walk on a long pier if ever faced with the prospect of "being as you"

like me.  I forget overnight who I was pissed at yesterday, so I start off each morning liking everyone here, until one by one, the usual suspects start saying some stupid shit, so that by nightfall, I'm pissed off at a third of the people here.  Then I sleep and we start over tomorrow.  I tend to say nicer stuff in the mornings

There are so many morons on TER and so few of them are memorable enough for me to remember them from day to day especially the ones that post infrequently. I've lost count of how many times I have read a board reply or PM that starts out with "Remember that time you called me a....." The answer of course is usually "fuck no, I have NO idea who the fuck you are" and then the little dweeb will go on to cite a thread from a year back that no one but him remembers.  

Part of how nice I am also depends on how long it's been since I've been laid. for about two hours after having sex I too tend to be a bit nicer. If the girl really rocked my world I might be too content to pick a fight for as long as three or four hours. lol

want to re-read the OP. It was mutual consent to go beyond the time. He offered a $60 tip and said he would give her a bigger tip next time.

Vodka, even the cheap stuff, can sterilize most anything, so no need to worry if they washed this week or not.

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She may not have been comfortable asking for more.  It was his obligation to step up.  And leaving $60 is an insultingly low amount.  His own actions show he felt leaving more money was appropriate but he weaseled out by leaving only the $60 he had on hand.  If there was, in fact, clearly mutual consent why did he leave any extra money at all?  It was a cheap and weasely move and in his OP you can tell he was a bit embarrassed by it.  If he wasn't, why did he need to come here and ask?
Your assignment is to go back and re-read the OP AGAIN and then re-read my first response.  And to get a clue.

in line behind waiting for you to pay for gum using a fucking debit card?  Put a couple hundred dollars in your pocket...it won't kill you.  No. don't give me the bull-shit that it could be better invested and gaining interest.  If any of you are worried about money and are playing this game, I would recommend you spend some time finding a girl-friend.

and when your name is BBBBB who cares about washing?

Your inability to comprehend simple English is starting to rival BBBBB and both the Fatty twins.

YOUR assignment is to go back and re-read the  OP AGAIN, if you ever read it in the first place as you have missed this one by a mile AGAIN.  

Can I PLEASE buy you a couple of bottles of vodka so you can start making sense again, I will even spring for the good stuff.

I know your memory is fading, but you do remember that time you made me promise you that if you ever got as dumb as the Fatty twins that I was to "put you out of your misery"? Well that day is getting dangerously close, please get help and get it NOW. Please seek out your nearest bartender and have him pour you about four fingers of the cure.

...and he certainly did NOT tell her he would give her a bigger tip next time.

He merely put the $60. on the dresser.  He either should have told her that's all he had and would make it up to her next time or he should have immediately followed up with an email explaining that was all he had and telling her he would take care of her next time.

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Yeah, the grammar error had me wondering ("you a nice..." sounds more like Rip

...his Colt 1911.  It might be a better idea to have a panel decide whether to put Jake out of his misery rather than leave it up to a trigger-happy "righty."

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=273897&boardID=39&page=#273897

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World community is already making fun on those as OP .. I guess you like it. To be an example of stupid  
 
I love America I am an american and I do not insult america as whole - I love people and I love country - yet I do  go easy on morons .  

And not trying to be nice and polite to get a business  of those whom i would not let come to me closer then on gun shot.

And many your american born women also feel that way about johns here . yet buy some reasons trying to be nice to them  

THAT is why I love americans as nation  
 Amazing people - they trying t be nice even to ass holes. but I think - just because they want to get in to ass holes pockets.
 
i do  not need any dirty pockets of johns so I tell all as it i

and find a translator to understand  all but I think you will get and yourself

http://youtu.be/Yeb2xmjLomE
 Oh by way - list my voice on my site about vodka  

generally here American and Russian men trying to get along ..    
 and seems they got along not too bad.


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So now you've but it back up again?  Pathetic.

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but at least due to his apparent Alzheimer's it's unlikely he would remember my promise anyhow. I would just be rather sad watching him drown in his own drool.

As for his Colt 1911, he is much more likely to shoot off his own foot with it that he is to hit me, lefties believe in gun control, righties believe in "bullet control" as in keeping your shots in a tight pattern. Don't worry, I won't let him suffer, a double tap to the back of the head and he will go peacefully into the night with what's left of his dignity intact. lmao

The reason being, is if it's initially being given out of guilt, it automatically creates a psychological debt to both parties. One to the giver because they'll never be sure if they did enough, and the other if the receiver senses the guilt or feeling of debt, they have to somehow figure out where the giver's mind is to assure them they're good.  

It creates a Barrier that doesn't need to be there.  

Think about this. You've seen this girl multiple times. Perhaps she was giving something to you out of appreciation for your returning business.  

That moment was right, and she saw a great opportunity to give you a small perk. As a result of her trying to go above and beyond, you've accepted her "gift" with "debt"

What I suggest in the future is to accept the gift. Take time to think on it. Then if ever so inspired, show up the next time with a little extra, thought out, and given with pleasure.  

Otherwise you're leaving with a bad taste you've put in your own mouth, when she wanted you to leave with a sweet taste.

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A woman after my heart. You have perfectly dissected this conundrum!

Hell, I may respond that I wish I said that. Lol!

You say you love America, I hope that's true. From what I've seen from you, I certainly have my doubts, but I really hope it's true. I certainly love Her, even if I am terrified by what she is starting to become. I say I have my doubts because you have no compunction whatsoever about insulting a majority of Americans with your broad-stroke generalizations and ludicrous assumptions. You've done so in this thread, earlier today in the photo ID thread, and several times previously.

You don't think you're insulting most Americans? Well, we can agree to disagree I supposed. Maybe you don't realize what you're actually saying here. I don't say that as a jab. I cut anyone learning a new language a lot of slack, and as long as they're making an effort, I would not mock them. I'm seriously saying maybe you don't always understand what you say when you're operating in English.

BTW, the people actually making America "look bad" are probably the ones you think are just great. Along with those such as yourself who ASSume that anyone who went to Harvard or Yale is a good, intelligent person and a true gentleman. I've known plenty of people who come from those places, and the like, who were complete cads and worse. Not to mention dumb as a post when it comes to common sense. Quite frankly, every time you talk about YOUR IDEA of "good Americans", it seems to boil down to none other than men with lots of money who are easily parted from it. Very aggravating.

When you first showed up around here, I thought you were the victim of a lot of unprovoked attacks and I did not wish to pile on. Over time, I've come to see you as something of an opinionated, judgmental, know it all. I mean you no ill will, but please try to understand that you do not know as much as you think you do about Americans, or about "johns". I certainly have believed generalizations and stereotypes about Russia and her culture, but I think if I were to actually move there in search of a better life I would be able to open my mind and learn where I was wrong.

You mock the OP in this thread as stupid. I think maybe you simply cannot fathom a provider spending a little extra time with a thoughtful man who is a regular, without demanding to be compensated for every moment of it. I don't know you, just a theory. Whatever has made you so cynical and angry, I hope you can move past it.

Good luck with your endeavors. I truly hope you find your American Dream.

Why don't you quit while you are behind?

:-/

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Sometimes in life it's nice to just do something for another with NO expectation of anything in return, just out of general kindness or to show you care for the person.  And after doing that, I appreciate a thanks, but the last thing I want is to have the person be a little too insistent on paying me back sometime, thus almost reducing the act of kindness back to a transactional type of thing.  But I have also come to learn that some people have a harder time accepting generosity for some reason, and just NEVER want to have ANY feeling of indebtedness to another.  I try to not take offense at this, as I know we are all wired a little differently (but I do laugh, as my good friend/work colleague counts the change to pay me back to the PENNY if I bought her even just a cup of coffee or a danish).

others as Dev and Gambler and jake from farm were more reasonable people and more as you are  

I said nothing about america- did you notice ? it is Dev start - I said about cowboys and red lipstick russian women .. how it come to be about America - who knows -  
I love this country no less then country of my birth.
yuet i well know and pros and cons - i wish we can be as one  

My handles are America Russia and  
Russia America  
You know - when naturalized - INS officer just even not gave me an interview - he told  me - I know who you are  
 he was ion love with me  
 All Americans are in love with me !  
I love this amazing country and people did deserve here ay better then we have now.  
It s heart breaking what can be with country.  
Do not blame me that i do not like America- i do not like johns and hookers. That is correct  
mentality of such - hookers and joins mentality  
That is against what I fight .

Those who know me those are in love with me  
 Sorry if you are mislead by my posts.  
 take care

You are simply non educated red neck. and plus  very jealous  by some reasons.  

Any way please educate yourself on how to become a better cisterns to your country so this country finally will get back to its feet.
 No wonder - with such rotten citizen as you are and all bellow - who liked your post- you are just marching to the war .
As you like wars. and Like scandals .
What people who can read may see on my post - it is reference to cowboys and Russian women. an you started scandal  
You are promoting wars.  
Anybody who can read would see that my post has nothing to do with or Iam patriotic  about states or not  
Iam - as I am here already 10 + years and thanks god I am avoiding johns and hookers - my crowd is nice american  and I love them, i love this county and it hard working people and feel a lot of pain for them.
 Look at this chart
http://youtu.be/QPKKQnijns

that you should not to appeal to those who are johns here ?
 Here are few gentlemen, and You know their names at this moment. you are lucky have them - yet because you do play double game and is hypocritical as hell one of those nice gentlemen was added and to black list and you not said a word to your "ladies" and johns when they beat him up and declared rapist.
yet you know him too,.  That double standards  driving nice men as he is out .
 You still have may be one two who may  have respect to you - so stop call johns" gentlemen "
 call this proud name of those who deserved that.

I do not give it so easy - gentleman. if he is obviously NOT  

It would hep you to not wiggle as .. sorry compass without direction and call everybody hear - laud and gentlemen  
if you be nor defined and strong - you may would say a word to people who was declaring gentleman to be a rapist and do not call johns to be a gentlemen. In your position it is time to understand. not a little girl any more.  
I may understand how may be confused youth women - but you ?

"how to become better cisterns?"  LMAO!
"so this country will finally get back to its feet?"  Who are you, Trump's Minister of Propaganda?
My, my, my, you certainly know how to drum up business.
Like the lady said, quit while you're behind.

You seem to think that everyone who disagrees with you is a redneck.  You even called me a redneck once.  I guarantee, if you saw me walking down the street, you wouldn't be thinking "redneck."  You'd be thinking "outlaw biker."

Apology - as you now expressed your self as a gentleman .

I am not not digging deep who is a gentlemen and who is not - as we all know we have just 7 second to make first impression.

You failed to impress me .. you know many american people are educated and well spoken with system of values on right place and with proper manner of communication.
 
Many - but seems not here. here are just few.

I do not have no time no need no desire to know them then.

Move on.
 Thanks and next time - with any lady - match style of your free to style of your speech. Not to be mistreated.
Sorry if it took place

Noone likes that feeling. Know what else people don't like? Not feeling appreciated. I am sure you don't like those feelings and have a deep appreciation for folks who do NOT do that to you.

Send her an email and tell her you would like to send her a thank you gift and ask her which would be the best form of delivery to her.

If you want VIP treatment the next time you see her, you have to act like a VIP before then. Providers LOVE nice guys. Be that guy, not the guy she resents having to work with

its not cumulative for me.  When I start over in the morning, its with LITTLE memory of being pissed at anyone here yesterday.