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rembrnad0284 12 Reviews 3584 reads
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I thought you may be interested to know that I hired a provider to work at my business about a year ago... and I am really happy to report that she is in many ways the sharpest witted person in the place and the sky is the limit for her.  

We're 80 people and we do well. I hired her in an administrative role just to get her in, as she had no health insurance and dwindling business.  She's really attractive and quirky in a beautiful way, but she has kids who are older than half the women on this board and I think she was really worried about the future.  

And I was worried about her slipping into an addiction that she hinted about - plus, I had a real business need and she seemed like just the right person.

Suffice it to say that she has ditched the pills, outgrown the admin job (not that there's anything wrong with that), and has shown herself to be an out of the box thinker to where she has put several great ideas in motion 9and stopped us from doing others that would have been mistakes) and as a result has netted us tens of thousands of dollars we wouldn't have had.  

She's got a great salary now, ad a nice bonus, and has been boosted to management, not because I played favorites but totally on her business acumen - it was another manager's idea. She has a pioneer/enterprising spirit and sees through all the bs that clients and vendors try to spread.  She's a breath of fresh air and even though she has not formal education beyond high school -- no one knows that but me and besides, who cares!!

This post is not about me or any attempt to be a WK. The job was there and so was she - we were just two real world people filling a need the other had; a need that had nothing to do with sex. No, this is about her, and a spirit that rises above regardless of any of the artificial indicia of competence we use to benchmark in this world.  She is pure fun, smart and refreshing... She makes me look smarter than I am, and i just thought some of us may find this a little bit inspiring so I though I'd share it.

JakeFromStateFarm 399 reads
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ScarlettStClair See my TER Reviews 457 reads
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Thank you for sharing such a beautiful, heart warming story. I'm so glad things worked out so well for both of you. You have a lovely heart.

impposter 49 Reviews 536 reads
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Posted By: Joe Christmas
She's got a great salary now, ad a nice bonus, and has been boosted to management,
 
This could be the time, or wait for another promotion and increase in salary, to spring the old blackmail routine: "Give me a cut or I'll out you to the other employees!"  

Wait a second ... that's a two-way street.  

Never mind my suggestion.  

But I've seen plenty of people who see "through all the bs that clients and vendors try to spread" get canned! Of course, they also see through all the internal bs, too, and that makes them dangerous

LasVegan 460 reads
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5 / 39

Seriously, you really made my day!

LasVegan 548 reads
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6 / 39

kidding me!  Probably the most refreshing post I have read on here and you bring on nothing but negativity?  Our words are clearly a reflection of us.  Have you got any idea what a miserable person your words make you out to be

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 496 reads
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7 / 39

justifying my presence on this board.

I was blessed as well have  clients who and  fixed my resume and helped and helping in real life.  

God bless you

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 330 reads
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WickedBrut 27 Reviews 612 reads
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Trying to imagine the nature of your business, 80 employees, need of administrative assistant(s), a management team that an entry level employee can break into within a year...it doesn't sound right. But there are all kinds of business structures, and not knowing what field you're in (and certainly not asking you to disclose it here), maybe it's possible.

Say it is. How do the employees she shot ahead of feel about her! How does interact with the rest of the management team. And do you mean middle management like telemarketing supervisor, or do you mean something like operations mamager?

This is a beautiful story of someone on a shaky path turning her life around on a dime. Not really an underdog David and Goliath, because such a story would require obstacles to overcome, a bit of backsliding, some inner strength that trumpets the triumph of the capable person facing overwhelming adversity.

But why does it need to be either fact or fiction! Music isn't divided that way, or art. I just listened to a story of NPR that brought up that very topic.

So...ask yourself, could you sell it as romcom flick?

DBJHunter 279 reads
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10 / 39

Sometimes helping others in need will lead you to success!

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 465 reads
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11 / 39

Thank you for sharing your experience. It warmed my heart and soul to read it!  

Steph xoxo

scoed 8 Reviews 425 reads
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12 / 39

I too have a similar story. But she is still my administration assistant.  She found herself in a mess and I hired her as I knew she has integrity. Never regretted hiring her.

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 436 reads
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13 / 39

Isn't everyone supposed to have health insurance now under the Affordable Care Act?

Posted By: WickedBrut
Trying to imagine the nature of your business, 80 employees, need of administrative assistant(s), a management team that an entry level employee can break into within a year...it doesn't sound right. But there are all kinds of business structures, and not knowing what field you're in (and certainly not asking you to disclose it here), maybe it's possible.  
   
 Say it is. How do the employees she shot ahead of feel about her! How does interact with the rest of the management team. And do you mean middle management like telemarketing supervisor, or do you mean something like operations mamager?  
   
 This is a beautiful story of someone on a shaky path turning her life around on a dime. Not really an underdog David and Goliath, because such a story would require obstacles to overcome, a bit of backsliding, some inner strength that trumpets the triumph of the capable person facing overwhelming adversity.  
   
 But why does it need to be either fact or fiction! Music isn't divided that way, or art. I just listened to a story of NPR that brought up that very topic.  
   
 So...ask yourself, could you sell it as romcom flick?

rembrnad0284 12 Reviews 561 reads
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14 / 39

That,'s okay, as I'm not offended Brut.  I always like your insightful and well written comments.  

And of course you are free to believe what you want but it is true and, as I mentioned, I'm not writing this because I want a pat on the back... just the opposite, it's about good people in whatever circumstances who can do great things and I am so happy (and yes, a little relieved lol) that it has worked out this way.

She is managing a team that is venturing into a new area of work for us, and it was her idea (she came in full of ideas!!! like daily lol, and having run her own business as a provider for many years she had a lot of practical brilliance that cannot be taught in a classroom and darn if her instincts weren't just about always on target) and it worked so well on an ad hoc basis that based on the suggestion of another (senior) manager, I built a small team around her to formalize our foray into this new area, and I put her in charge of it.  We've got a good culture and I don't believe there was any resentment; just the opposite I believe as I think she is seen as a breath of fresh air, energetic, and really smart.  

And I cannot not nor would I ever tell her full life story (or at least as much as I know).  Your film would pivot from rom com to drama really fast... that said, if you see something worth writing as I know you have great skill in this area, please have at it.  

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rembrnad0284 12 Reviews 503 reads
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15 / 39

I think the key word here is 'supposed' as I believe her direct quote was something like 'I can't afford the premiums for coverage that I will never get past the deductible on so they'll have to track me down and fine me as I can't sign up for it'  

In fact, having just gotten through a horrible medical situation with a loved one that brought about a 6 figure bill what would have left an uninsured person in ruins, once I heard her say that about the harsh realities of the ACA; that's actually what really got my wheels turning to make this happen

I think there are a lot of Americans in this situation, and without getting political, I think high deductible health insurance is not in the consumer's best interest unless they are young and/or totally healthy.  We offer much better coverage.
 
Posted By: DURHAMDREW63
Isn't everyone supposed to have health insurance now under the Affordable Care Act?  
   
Posted By: WickedBrut
Trying to imagine the nature of your business, 80 employees, need of administrative assistant(s), a management team that an entry level employee can break into within a year...it doesn't sound right. But there are all kinds of business structures, and not knowing what field you're in (and certainly not asking you to disclose it here), maybe it's possible.  
     
  Say it is. How do the employees she shot ahead of feel about her! How does interact with the rest of the management team. And do you mean middle management like telemarketing supervisor, or do you mean something like operations mamager?  
     
  This is a beautiful story of someone on a shaky path turning her life around on a dime. Not really an underdog David and Goliath, because such a story would require obstacles to overcome, a bit of backsliding, some inner strength that trumpets the triumph of the capable person facing overwhelming adversity.  
     
  But why does it need to be either fact or fiction! Music isn't divided that way, or art. I just listened to a story of NPR that brought up that very topic.  
     
  So...ask yourself, could you sell it as romcom flick?
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rembrnad0284 12 Reviews 373 reads
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16 / 39

Amen brother... and others here have done the same so this is why I really didn't want my post to be about me because I didn't do anything all that great except hire someone because I hire lots of people... what SHE did is great and that is inspiring and especially in view of such sad news below, I just thought it was a good time to shed a little dawn on the darkness that encroaches everywhere in this world  - not only here.  

 
Posted By: scoed
I too have a similar story. But she is still my administration assistant.  She found herself in a mess and I hired her as I knew she has integrity. Never regretted hiring her.

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 387 reads
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Posted By: Joe Christmas
I thought you may be interested to know that I hired a provider to work at my business about a year ago... and I am really happy to report that she is in many ways the sharpest witted person in the place and the sky is the limit for her.    
   
 We're 80 people and we do well. I hired her in an administrative role just to get her in, as she had no health insurance and dwindling business.  She's really attractive and quirky in a beautiful way, but she has kids who are older than half the women on this board and I think she was really worried about the future.    
   
 And I was worried about her slipping into an addiction that she hinted about - plus, I had a real business need and she seemed like just the right person.  
   
 Suffice it to say that she has ditched the pills, outgrown the admin job (not that there's anything wrong with that), and has shown herself to be an out of the box thinker to where she has put several great ideas in motion 9and stopped us from doing others that would have been mistakes) and as a result has netted us tens of thousands of dollars we wouldn't have had.    
   
 She's got a great salary now, ad a nice bonus, and has been boosted to management, not because I played favorites but totally on her business acumen - it was another manager's idea. She has a pioneer/enterprising spirit and sees through all the bs that clients and vendors try to spread.  She's a breath of fresh air and even though she has not formal education beyond high school -- no one knows that but me and besides, who cares!!  
   
 This post is not about me or any attempt to be a WK. The job was there and so was she - we were just two real world people filling a need the other had; a need that had nothing to do with sex. No, this is about her, and a spirit that rises above regardless of any of the artificial indicia of competence we use to benchmark in this world.  She is pure fun, smart and refreshing... She makes me look smarter than I am, and i just thought some of us may find this a little bit inspiring so I though I'd share it.

FatVern 401 reads
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scoed 8 Reviews 271 reads
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19 / 39

If they cause her problems then you deal with it like any personal problem. If they don't then who cares? It isn't any different then any other person. We all have pasts.

FatVern 483 reads
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20 / 39

Well Scoed, some people are assholes and can cause problems. Would a business owner want to through everything they've worked for away, to help out one person? Unfortunately, the business owner has to look out for their interests, along with the interests of the 80 people they employs

randyram 3 Reviews 367 reads
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21 / 39

there are numerous exemptions, ck the link below

Posted By: DURHAMDREW63
Isn't everyone supposed to have health insurance now under the Affordable Care Act?  
   
Posted By: WickedBrut
Trying to imagine the nature of your business, 80 employees, need of administrative assistant(s), a management team that an entry level employee can break into within a year...it doesn't sound right. But there are all kinds of business structures, and not knowing what field you're in (and certainly not asking you to disclose it here), maybe it's possible.  
     
  Say it is. How do the employees she shot ahead of feel about her! How does interact with the rest of the management team. And do you mean middle management like telemarketing supervisor, or do you mean something like operations mamager?  
     
  This is a beautiful story of someone on a shaky path turning her life around on a dime. Not really an underdog David and Goliath, because such a story would require obstacles to overcome, a bit of backsliding, some inner strength that trumpets the triumph of the capable person facing overwhelming adversity.  
     
  But why does it need to be either fact or fiction! Music isn't divided that way, or art. I just listened to a story of NPR that brought up that very topic.  
     
  So...ask yourself, could you sell it as romcom flick?

RSpork 23 Reviews 300 reads
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22 / 39

If you think about it, a good provider has a lot of skills that we value in the workforce. Probably better business skills than a lot of their customers. Seriously. Clothes on, mouth closed:
  - Ability to relate to different types of people & put them at ease
  - Ability to read different situations and adapt
  - determination & drive
  - Entrepreneurial & marketing skills,taking the initiative
  - Scheduling/shows up on time
  - Discretion
Unfortunately, you can't really demonstrate this to a bonehead HR drone.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 401 reads
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23 / 39

People can alter their identity more easily than most think. Some have slipped in and our numerous times. Granted, some situations make it easier and some situations make it harder.

ArielAmazing See my TER Reviews 345 reads
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24 / 39

And glad it worked out so well!

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 603 reads
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25 / 39

After thinking about your response more than I probably should have, you may have made a believer out of me. I'll admit my skepticism stemmed from a bias I have about such situations and what's likely to happen or even possible.

Based only on my own experience in "business" it seemed unlikely. Here's why. In the field I spent most of my life in, I wouldn't have considered hiring anyone who hadn't had experience in that field OR some education, training or at least exposure to the what we did. This was because of an assumption that unless their was an interest and some idea of what the work entailed, there was no reason to expect that an employer would know what was going on or want to stay with it for any length of time. I agree that few people actually learn very much from formal education in several fields including Business Management, but the fact that a person chose such a field of study indicates to me that they have some interest along those lines.

But I can imagine that there are plenty of other industries where that logic and that assumption doesn't apply. So that you hired her and her transferable skills were applicable can be believed.

The man thing that is/was hard for me to buy is the skyrocketing success. That might be because of a bias I have based on my view of other lines of work looking at them from the outside. Or on a preconceived notion of how vertical advancement normally works in most businesses.

I wouldn't have done such a thing myself, though I can understand being tempted to give her a try.

So, considering what you said about her idea sparking a new approach or a new division, as opposed to moving up into an existing position, I can see that happening. I sincerely hope it goes well, both for her and for the business.

Greenbacks2 21 Reviews 346 reads
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26 / 39

for the same reasons you mentioned. Can see through the BS and think out of the box. Also out going and friendly not afraid to talk to people. Also they have the skill to get people to talk.  
Thanks for the letter.

JakeFromStateFarm 355 reads
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27 / 39

She's not working any more and thus is completely legal.  And the business owner isn't paying her for sex.  Sp, once again, you have shown yourself to be a complete, blithering idiot.

FatVern 259 reads
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28 / 39

You'd see where I said if there was an employee whom new of their relationship, that employee could cause a stink

scoed 8 Reviews 527 reads
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29 / 39

I tell you exactly how you handle it. You fire the one causing the problem for harassment and be done with it. I had to do it when my assistant past came out and one lady gave her no end of problems. You are not risking anything hiring a former sex workers convicted or not as long as the job doesn't require state or federal mandated background screening like in the medical field.

JakeFromStateFarm 314 reads
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30 / 39

And your post to which I responded didn't mention it either.  Thanks for remaining consistent as the board's dumbest poster.

FatVern 336 reads
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31 / 39

Posted By: JakeFromStateFarm
And your post to which I responded didn't mention it either.  Thanks for remaining consistent as the board's dumbest poster.

JakeFromStateFarm 323 reads
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32 / 39

1) He might know someone else who saw her.
2) He might have known her on the boards.
3) He might have considered seeing her and read her reviews.
4) He might have seen her at a Meet & Greet.
5) He might have seen one of her ads.
6) He might have visited her web site.
7) He might have booked her but the date was cancelled on not re-scheduled.
Get the picture, oh dense one?
And even if Joe confirms he actually did see her, any of the above could have been true as well.

scoed 8 Reviews 281 reads
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As long as they have no physical evidence they can't do shit as long as the relationship is strictly platonic from that point on. I dealt with the issue before.

One lady had an issue. Made sure everyone knew her past, was constantly making comments about her and too her. So to fix it I fired the one causing problems and let it be known I would fire in a heartbeat anyone treating anyone else in a less then professional and polite manner. Never had anther issue. I also won the unemployment suit.  

Fatvern doesn't get no matter what personal issues will happen. You just deal with them as they happen. You don't throw away good people.

Mr.M.Johnson 407 reads
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34 / 39

But, then, I thought what if she gets mad at me down the road and as she's walking out the door "screams he's a John."  I decided to play it safe and not hire her

My $.02

FatVern 236 reads
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Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 419 reads
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Well, if you did do it Joe, you did a very noble thing. The govt. tracks insurance via income tax returns now so they don't have much trouble tracking people down. I couldn't sleep nights if I didn't have good health insurance. My plan for my old age is to marry some young thing who needs great health insurance since adding a spouse to my existing plan is cheap PLUS she gets my monthly pension for life when I kick the bucket.  

(We are a couple decades away so save the marriage proposals ;)
Posted By: Joe Christmas
I think the key word here is 'supposed' as I believe her direct quote was something like 'I can't afford the premiums for coverage that I will never get past the deductible on so they'll have to track me down and fine me as I can't sign up for it'    
   
 In fact, having just gotten through a horrible medical situation with a loved one that brought about a 6 figure bill what would have left an uninsured person in ruins, once I heard her say that about the harsh realities of the ACA; that's actually what really got my wheels turning to make this happen  
   
 I think there are a lot of Americans in this situation, and without getting political, I think high deductible health insurance is not in the consumer's best interest unless they are young and/or totally healthy.  We offer much better coverage.  
   
   
Posted By: DURHAMDREW63
Isn't everyone supposed to have health insurance now under the Affordable Care Act?  
     
Posted By: WickedBrut
Trying to imagine the nature of your business, 80 employees, need of administrative assistant(s), a management team that an entry level employee can break into within a year...it doesn't sound right. But there are all kinds of business structures, and not knowing what field you're in (and certainly not asking you to disclose it here), maybe it's possible.    
       
   Say it is. How do the employees she shot ahead of feel about her! How does interact with the rest of the management team. And do you mean middle management like telemarketing supervisor, or do you mean something like operations mamager?    
       
   This is a beautiful story of someone on a shaky path turning her life around on a dime. Not really an underdog David and Goliath, because such a story would require obstacles to overcome, a bit of backsliding, some inner strength that trumpets the triumph of the capable person facing overwhelming adversity.    
       
   But why does it need to be either fact or fiction! Music isn't divided that way, or art. I just listened to a story of NPR that brought up that very topic.    
       
   So...ask yourself, could you sell it as romcom flick?
   
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