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Warning for Providers...
SugahSweeT 4639 reads
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There's a guy, who goes by the name of Mike... He's been ripping girls off by writing them checks from an account that has been closed for over 6 months.. I got him taken care of, (I dont think he'll ever try this agian) but in case someone tries to write you a check, please dont accept it.. Its probably bogus, no matter how nice he is and what he brings you... (this one brought be dinner, flowers, and champagne) dont fall for it

May I also add..

We have all received the emails from this group of money launderer's/scamer's.

The US Secret Service could care less what we do or how & why we are getting these emails.  They are very anxious to talk and prosecute these individuals.  

They have asked that we forward all emails to this address if it does not take to please copy the header's & body of emails and send

WebTerrorist3760 reads

Forwarding emails won't be of much use, since you can't prove the originating "emailer" of a forwarded email.

The RFC 2822- Internet Message Format states that forwarding email, in this sense, when a person uses their email client to "forward" a message to another person, the forwarded message becomes the body of the new email, and the headers refer to the person that forwarded the message and not the originating information of the forwarded message.

Better to either copy the headers  and body of the email as stated in the message I am replying to or, to save the email as a .eml file compress it (.zip, .rar)
You can use winzip:
http://www.winzip.com/
or Winrar:
http://www.rarlab.com/
Free trials to do this,
and send the compressed file that will contain both the headers and the body of the email.

I don't think it would be wise to accept a check (even if it was a cashier's check) just to be on the safe side.

You know what they say, in God we trust all others pay cash.

GaGambler2335 reads

Actually, I would rather accept a soft check, than a cashiers check or money order nowadays. At least with a soft check, you have recourse against the maker, both civil and criminal. With a bogus cashiers check or money order, it's more likely that the bank will come after you instead.

junior4571637 reads


I'm not a lawyer however I feel pretty confident in giving this advice to the ladies. If a client receives services then pays by "soft" check, then said "soft" check is not good, do not take him to civil or criminal court.
Although there are several laws against writing bad checks etc. I think that the "service" for which the check was written would be of more interest to the courts or LE than anything else.
 A similar example to this was the person who called the police because they paid for a product and the seller of the product didn't deliver the product to the buyer. The seller took the money and did not deliver any goods........so as stated the buyer called the police. Oh,what was the product he was purchasing? Drugs. The police were more than happy to take everyone to jail!

Think twice and don't take all the advice you may read on the boards, some may not be well thought out for the circumstance.

Peace & Happiness to All

What recourse?  If the check is for under $1000, no felony has occured (now that used to be the number, forgive me if it has changed).  It may be a crime to knowingly pass a bad check, but not to do so unknowingly (gee, I thought I had enought in there to cover it).  That last statement suffices to provide the old "he said" vs "she said" story that stymies courts.

If you get a bad check for a few hundred bucks, it is up to you to collect it from the person who foisted it off on you.  Good luck!

BILL183563080 reads

why in hell any provider would take a check unless you know that person very well????

I'm sorry but some of the provider problems I read here are totally self imposed.

Self imposed maybe, but let’s look at the diversity of sins:

HER ERROR:  being to trusting of a fellow human being (at least maybe that’s what he is)

HIS ERROR:  intentionally ripping her off with no plausible deniability that "I'd didn't realize the account was overdrawn."  A theif is a theif.

Let’s not excuse the scum who do things like this because a lady was trusting (and maybe a bit naive).  The greater blame and greater offense was still his.

BILL183562634 reads

and in particular I can't stand to see nice trusting people get ripped off by dirt bags just like this that prey on peoples goodwill.

The reality is I've seen way too many of these posts by providers and my gosh how many does it take before some of them learn.

Its their business and they should be able to dictate terms that alleviate the risk to a certain degree. Taking checks from people you know nothing about just isn't a smart business decision especially when you have no recourse

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