Also if sh runs specials alot, many men that want to see her, might just be waiting, because they know that if they wait, she will run a special. Thats the problem with specials.
If a guy can get the same service from the same lady at a lower rate, thats just being smart with his money.
Is it fair? not at all. But thats what happenes in the "specials trap"
I think that running specials is a bad idea for the reasons stated. You should stick to your rate and stay at it. If a gentlemen wants to see you, they will do it.
Decide your worth and stick to your guns. Some times it may be slow, but eventually it will all even out.

I think the internet has changed the business for the better.  I have better luck visiting providers that advertise on the web than in the local "alternative" weekly paper.
I like having a litte advance information on what to expect before visiting someone.  
If providers are concerned about bad reviews etc, they should look at their level of service and price and then adjust accordingly.

Being an old time UTR girl from way back.. No advertising ,no nothing.. you were elite to a certain group of men.. traveling marketing groups, traveling men.. that let the word out by mouth only. "pssst, call so and so in Buffalo, give her the password "

That's how it was BEFORE the internet.

The internet exploded.

Its ruined the business in all honesty. Now we have to search emails for some sign of ellie, we cant answer questions in fear of them, we cant breathe in fear of them,we only see respected board members in fear of them..how do we know their atf didnt get busted last week? and hes working for them (paranoia? Yes, Reality, Yes ) It all balances out.  We can't post on certain boards because they are reading it. Dont use this email server because "they: can get into that.. Guess what? They can get into everything if you have a working hard drive(cl post from netmichele), only way you are safe.. is to  buy disposable computer and throw it away every week.Put in a new hard drive everyday.

Then we have to search for catty providers trying to hijack tours,hobbyists playing games because their favorite girl asked them too. This apparently will get the girl to quit and not ever come to your city again. My answer to that is.  Have some money put away for a rainy month when it is a little slow.Get a job if you are that bad off and are penniless in this business.  No girl should be. If you are doing this,You don't belong in this business. Most often these are young girls doing this, or girls only in the business for a year or so. They got a 9 or a 10. Now they are queens. *rolls eyes*

The blocked caller, we had no problems answering their questions before the day of caller id, and we simply couldnt see ANY NUMBER AT ALL,now all of a sudden,its LE if they call, or they have some motive for blocking it.

Has anyone noticed we spend more time talking about ellie in the past months than anything else..

Here's a tip.. if anyone is afraid , dont dabble in illegal activity.Its really quite that simple. If anyone is afraid of STD's, dont have sex. WITH ANYONE.. civvies or providers alike.

Is ellie hurting our business? No,cause guess what. Here you are reading my post and this entire thread. (and they, or any agency, your isp, and the little internet police inside your monitor are going to come and get you )  Is it hurting girls business sense. Yes.(recent post somewhere about answering service at BDJ and her being a bitch.)

Girls fighting in over populated cities with a flooded market of girls, agencies, touring girls. How many men do these cities have ? Let's do the ratio and remember how silly you look fighting to outsiders. Men can have drama at home. It's why they seek US. They dont need or want it here.

In conclusion, this is how the internet has hurt the business. Anyone want an oral presentation?

Will I go UTR again, hell no, I like a challenge

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This post isn't directed at any certain people. No animals were hurt in the making of this post. People fight on every single city board on TER or any other given board.Or national for that matter ffight all the time.
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If anyone has a rebuttal, throw it in my email or pm. Sorry if anyone took offense.

-- Modified on 4/3/2005 7:36:01 PM

I loved your post Ciara.  You point out, quite rightly, that in an environemnt of scarcity, the established entities thrive.  Exclusivity is the friend of the service provider.

The internet is nothing if not egalitarian (so very French, non?).  Naturally, this ruins it for those elite who previously could only gain access.

My favorite new sob story is an SP I met in chat recently who would only do overnighters.  She scoffed at my suggestion of "only" a 2 hr minimum.  Fair enough.  But lo and behold, whom did I see this weekend on CL, of all places, advertising HOURLY rates?  Hah!

So, the next time a guy inquires if the terms are non-negotiable, please remember what Ciara wrote, and what this SP did this past weekend.  You sure don't have to see him/me/us, but don't take offense.

Yes.. before there was the internet there was all of that. however.. there were UTR girls as well.. that either worked for traveling business men from any one company- or 3 or 4... or even housewives or single wives that did it on their own without advertsing in local " rags" ...