she is from NY  I have been seeing her regularly where I live.  She is going back to NY for a 3 week vacation.  She has asked me to visit for a few days.  My question is-is it appropriate to ask for sex while I am there

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How are you even visiting a provider "on vacation"...
if she booked an appointment, obviously her butt ain't on vacation...

Freakin wasting my time on this non-sense..

Are you asking about visiting a provider for the first time she's on vacation, as in she's never been on vacation before? Or are you asking about visiting her for your first time with her while she's on vacation (others have already seen her while she's on vacation)? Or are you asking about this being the first time you'd ask her while she's on vacation (she's been on vacation before, but you've never asked)?

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You see, if a provider leaves Chicago traveling at 120 mph by train, and you leave Little Rock, Arkansas traveling at 2.4 mph by Big Wheel, then it will depend on whether the Swallow (pun intended) is African or European.

That's about how much sense your question made. Care to clarify?

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and didn't this fuckwad promise to leave and NOT come back? Oh well, I bet he promised to pay that poor woman her money back as well, once he was back on his feet after jerking himself off, we all know how much that takes out of him. lmao

Is English your second language?

She lives in NY.  I see her regularly where I live.  She is going back to NY for a three week vacation.  She has invited me to visit for a few days.  My question is-is it appropriate to ask for sex while I am there

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you are right  it was screwed up this is the correction she is originally from NY  she works in my state and I see her regularly  she is going back to NY for a 3 week vacation  She has invited me to visit for a few days  my question is- is it appropriate to ask for sex while I am there

okay  I am sure you have much more experience than me  why no?

nor will there ever be a shortage of sticks with which to beat them with.

He didn't say it was inappropriate to "ask" just that if she says no, then "no means no"

Of course you are going to ask. If I am with a woman that I have been having sex with, whether paid for or otherwise and I enjoy it, of course I am going to ask for more, but some women in this business consider their vacation a "vacation from sex" as that is what they do day in and day out. As a "friend" or what ever the fuck you are to this woman, you need to respect her wishes.

I can't believe I just gave a tool like you a straight answer. Forget what I just said. You DESERVE sex from her, I think you should just DEMAND that she fucks you and if she doesn't like it then TOUGH. Yeah, that advice is much more suitable for someone like you.

I didn't read your post until AFTER I posted mine.

Let's chalk it up to "great minds think alike" and by "great minds" I am definitely NOT talking about the OP. lmao

You trying to post gibberish like JCA?

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Either she wants you to buy her dinner or pay her for private time. No free sex probably.

Best for you and her to dissolve any risk of a no, or hesitant yes. Money always makes everything better.

And - I don't see what the problem would be in simply asking her for a list of boundaries for the visit. Communicating what you are really thinking/feeling isn't a bad thing at all. People are so afraid to ask questions.

I recently had a regular email me for my availability. We tried to work something out same day, and it just wasn't going to work. He was afraid I was going to be mad at him! It's OK to ask. If you don't ask, you won't know.

I say money makes everyone happy. Take the money you would use for another girl, show it to her, and say, 'what will this buy me?' Actually hmmm... Don't do that lol. Just make the deal worth her while.

Ttyl

yes I am clueless  I would like to have sex but I am afraid she be mad at me  if I ask  I would pay but is this a proper thing to do

as long as you continue to pay her.  

Before you ask - yes, even if it's just a BJ, you should still pay her.

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But I can't think of too many people who'd be "mad" if an established client offered to pay for a service...

'I'd love to come visit you. I'd also like {insert number of hours} of playtime with you on xx day.'  

As sexygurl said, she's likely what she's hoping you'll ask....  

You would think that someone that old would have learned something along the way, but alas that doesn't seem to be the case with him

Since she's going home to NY, and you usually see her regularly, instead of wasting your money on the trip, why don't you just FED-EX the envelope, stay where you are, and continue exploring life by even more ridiculous posts? She's sure to appreciate that, and maybe-- MAYBE -- that will somehow work out in you getting fucked.

Book an appointment just like you normally would and expect to pay her going rate. Then again, she might not want to work while on vacation.

Hold the bus, you think you might get sex for free?.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. What an awesome joke you just made.  

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I have had a couple of "friends" that actually got mad when I asked if our vacation was "business or pleasure" One of them came right out and said, "when I want your money, I'll beat it out of you, now come over here and fuck me"

Somehow I doubt that is going to happen in the case of the OP, but I have had similar things happen on multiple occasions, some of them led to actual LTR's, some of them just led to a fuck weekend with me going right back to being a customer when she went back to work.

Never say never

what state do you live in it might be worth it to me it all depends on how you perform money is no object I need a gfe in all respects if this could work, 2 appts of 2 hours each would be a good starter

Not unless you are prepared for some really bad, nasty shit to happen to your cheap, broke ass. lmao

If you think the two days it takes you to recover from jerking off is bad, just try shorting this woman, I bet it's two YEARS before you can so much as walk again ROFLMFAO

Kind of reminds me of another occasion on which I insisted that no women really liked anal, and got my ass handed to me. It honestly never occurred to me that a woman might fuck a client for free, then see him again for $.  

I think that would be very confusing for 99% of clients. I'm sticking to that remark, although I inwardly cringe at the possibility of another comeuppance.  

I'm not sure that it reflects my feelings toward men...just this business. I've f***ed 4 clients for free. 2 I dated, 2 (both regulars) ripped me off. That's it. For me, it's either one way or the other. Either he's a client, and pays...or, he's a bf/fuck buddy/whatever, and we've completely left the business sphere.

Still, it's better to err on the side of offending her by offering $ (she can always refuse it), than offending her by taking advantage

I've been shorted and even ripped off. The guys lived.  

Worst thing I did was blacklist the guy (in the case of the rip-off). I yelled at him, but not nearly as much as I should have. I have a friend who told me I should have marched said dude to the ATM...taken his watch, etc. But if he never intended to pay me (he claimed to have no $...and this was at a casino!! Riiiiiight...), then he just wasn't going to. Shorted pay is a part of this business...nothing to be done.  

W/shorted donation, I just usually let him go his way, and I go mine. If I believe that it was an intentional effort to take advantage, I'll blacklist him. If I think it was an honest mistake, I'll make sure that, before our next meeting, we are both on the same page.  

Have a situation like that now. A regular client shorted me $100, twice. After #1, I asked him 'Tomorrow's date is 2 hours...RIGHT??' He said yes. And gave me the same donation, $100 short. So next time, I'll bring up the fact that the envelope was a little light the last few times, and could he please make sure to check my site before we meet? I will also tell him that I will need to collect $ upfront (which I do not EVER usually insist upon doing). If he has an issue w/that, well then he can short someone else

thank you for your advice  I will follow it

I don't think she wants sex on vacation but i am willing to give  her 600 for 2 hours.

thanks.  I am going to try but if she declines I am still going .

I know ga gambler is spreading this stuff  it seems when you make a mistake on this forum, they never let you forget it.  Believe me, I made up with more money the next time.  I do not short providers.  in fact, for years I gave bigger tips than I was supposed to and ran out of money  I find that the ladies help me with questions much more than the men. I asked a specific question about a provider who was going on vacation.  I don't short providers.  ga gambler said i'd be lucky to live if I shorted you.  I am not a violent person nor do I confrontations.  that statement is enough for me to forget you

 

 

 

 

 

 

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no I just used terrible wording  my mistake

thanks for your advice.it was very helpful  I asked her  she said she doesn't want sex while on vacation

Now let's see if you can actually take NO for an answer.

Since you seem to be completely clueless about this, let me fill you in on a couple of things about seeing Asian women outside the AMP.

Taking an AMP girl on vacation, dinner or whatever is just like a civvie date. She makes the rules where sex goes, and she can either fuck you or not fuck you depending on her mood and/or the way you play your cards. If you treat her like a hooker and offer her money, your chances of getting laid are next to none. IF OTOH, you have any game, are able to make her "want" to fuck you as her idea, not because you are paying her, IF you are able to do this (which I seriously doubt) you would be surprised how often no turns into yes.

It's very unlikely that a hard working AMP girl is in that desperate need for $600 to work during her vacation, especially if she has made it plain like she has. If you actually like her, you can take a chance that you might spend several days with her without getting laid. It doesn't really sound like you actually "like her" you just like her pussy. My advice to you is to just keep it business, you don't seem like you have got either the game, nor the patience to get into her pants any other way.

One last thing. Most of these Asian women will "test" you to see if you are just a horny dude looking for a freebie, or if you are a nice guy that they can spend time with. You just failed the test. There is no real shame in that, after all this is P4P, not match.com

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With a hooker you can be pretty safe that the money will entice her to "want" the sex.