You gentlemen assume it's ok to ask to use the shower when you arrive at her incall without her offering, right? Is that pretty standard across the board?

I don't offer because I don't want the gent to think I'm requiring him to do so and cut into his time.

I read a lot of reviews, and I see so many where the reviewer has written that he showered when he arrived. But, I've only had a couple clients ask to use the shower on arrival (fortunately no stinky gents yet, knock on wood lol). I'm wondering if I should be offering, or if y'all would assume that's a hint you stink.

And if you offer it, some jerks get offended.  I don't.  I arrive clean, but if she asks I always do a quick rinse. The is especially true in the summer.  If she's not comfortable I'm probably not going to get her best.

ask in an email before meeting if he'd like a shower.

...I can't recall a time when the provider asked me or suggested anything about showering first. I almost always ask them to join me. Most do. I assume it will be part of my time though many ladies have said here on the boards and to me personally that they're not concerned about a quick shower and don't count it. It isn't safe to just assume that though. If she does join me when I ask the showers often become more than a quick freshen up so I definitely consider it part of my time.

Because even when a guy showers sometimes it might have been too many hours ago especially in the summer. I know with myself I feel more sexually after I shower.  Now if I just took a shower at home and the appointment is only 1/2 hour away I don't need a shower.

especially when visiting with k-agencies the lady joins, and really fun things happen in the shower as well.    

With some agencies the shower time does not seem to be on the clock or an extra bit of time seems to be allowed for this.

If I am visiting an indie I have usually showered when I leave for the date, but when I arrive I do a quick "john shower" of primarily the front and back end to ensure freshness....

my favorite freelance lady of all time always required a shower but I always booked plenty of time....

I think that the lady knowing that you are fresh can make a big difference.  And the Asians believe that showering before and after cuts down on the likelihood of transmission of infections between people - and I think they are right.

No, I don't assume a shower is ok as I don't know if she's prepared with towels, etc.  But I think it's a good idea to mention in your ad that it's available.  I always shower before driving to her place, but on a hot day especially I take advantage of another quick shower if she offers.

It's especially nice when a lady advertises dual showers.  That way it can be part of the session and you can include some preliminary activity

I can just ask him to arrive 5 minutes early if he would like a shower. That leaves the ball in his court, and he won't think I think he stinks lol

Thanks!

I always mention in email that I'll be using the shower.  I want the lady to know I as fresh as possible, not 15 minutes fresh, zero minutes fresh.  Whatever make her most comfortable and confident.  

J

!) It's always a good idea to put on your website in friendly language that you prefer the gent to shower first, as you have done, so you can both be fresh.

2) There are polite ways of nudging.  Others could add more (I always volunteer to shower, but sometimes the lady beats me to the punch"...

 - "Would you like to freshen up?  I have towels and wash-cloth laid out"
 - "Shall we start with a little scrub down" (and join him)
 - "Would you like to shower while I get comfortable"

And so on...

Cuz I always shower.  I'm 100% certain I shower.  I am a shower freak.  

I just think it's fair to shower.  The more I think about it is fair.  
What if showers dont sell? What then?  

Remember,  showers existed before bathing.

I have to drive at least an hour to get there so I'm ready for a shower on arrival, I also like to sluice off prior to departure and I don't mind using the same towel... your nickel, my nickel, makes no difference...

It clears my mind,  it frees me from the stresses accumulated throughout the day,  and relieves me from the inside.

I don't mind if he showers at home and then comes to see me. I feel like my considerations section on my website is too long already, so I'm trying not to add too many rules that aren't a necessity yet, know what I mean?

Those that refuse, I will get undressed, head to the bathroom and invite them in...I am not even concerned about the hair and makeup if the day is hot and they have been "running around".

That's not what I meant. I don't discourage showers.

I made this thread to confirm my assumption that all gentlemen know they may use the shower even when the lady doesn't offer.  

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Tough choice. Yes, I bet the wet hair and runny makeup are a small price to pay to avoid getting nasty with someone who smells that way. lmao

I usually see gals on the weekend and if it's only a 1 hour ride to them, showering again is not needed.  But if I'm driving to New York, especially in the summer, you bet I could use a shower when I get there.

Same for when I see someone after work.  A shower is a must.

After the session a shower is also a must, at least for me as I love making an oily massage part of the session.

I always give a disclaimer if I'm invited to shower, "Sure, I'd love to if you don't mind I look like a raccoon!"  It never fails, water always splashes off his body and gets me in the face lol

I put my hair up to minimize that and avoid getting my face too wet to minimize the eye liner and mascara giving me that oh so sought after raccoon look...lololol.

I have a very sensitive sense of smell and would find it almost impossible to see a client that stank. I would go so far as to feign an emergency , give him his money back to get him to leave to avoid that.

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A shower is five minutes tops, you want the guys smelling his best.

Just my 1.25 cents

but does the costume cost extra??? lol

I honestly can't imagine spending an hour or more "up close and personal" with someone oblivious to the fact that running around all day in 90 degree heat is going to make anyone stank.

Maybe some people are just born without a sense of smell. Either way, I agree that some kind of emergency would have to come up, or else the real emergency would be when you cut his stankin ass to pieces with a meat cleaver. lol

You might just point to the bath and ask if he wants to freshen up. Even if he doesn't shower, brushing teeth, washing hands, etc., and you might then add that there's a towel if he wants to shower. But there are sessions that sort of start before the shower. Also, the shower thing facilitates leaving you alone to tend to the envelope.

That way both of us are proven to be clean

I can afford quite a bit, but feeling are way out of my price range. lol

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Unless I've showered an hour or so prior to the appointment, I always take a shower. I think it makes both of us more comfortable knowing that I'm freshly washed. You shouldn't feel bad about offering. Also, I don't expect a girl to extend because I need a shower. That's why I make it quick!

and surprise, he got some amazing head as a reward.

There are two reasons that I always take a shower at the start of every session. One to give her an opportunity , out of my view, to ensure that the donation is correct. And two, so that she knows I'm fresh. I want her to know I'm fresh because I'm anticipating (as you so perfectly put it) amazing head. There is not much better things in life than an amazing blowjob from a woman that knows she gives great head. In fact, this is the one thing that motivates me most in life now.

Thanks for the boner, feel free to say things like that more often, too bad I'm at work and can't rub one out.

If you've got sediment, you really do need a shower.

The second last thing I do before leaving my hotel to head to the incall is shower. (The last thing is put on clothes). I take the luggage out to the car before showering

Yeah, see....I wouldn't want to offend a guy that just showered at his house before coming to see me.

It hasn't happened yet, but if a guy came in stinky, I'd have no problem insisting he shower. But, all the gents so far have arrived smelling fresh or asked me for a shower.

Just think of all the sediments that will be on the shower floor afterwards

So here I had this nice mental image of Devin giving amazing head, and then you had to post that. I kind of hope that is a caricature, and not a real photo, and feel free not to share if it is a real photo.  

I'll put a .45 cal bullet in my head before I get with that, yuk.

are the guys who REALLY need that shower in the first place. Anyone who puts any kind of effort into personal hygiene in the first place will be glad that you do the same. Don't worry about any of us being offended. The "good guys" won't be.

FWIW 80% of the time, I show up to an appointment having showered less than an hour before. Even so, I rarely if ever say no if I am offered one when I get there, sometimes even if my hair is still wet from the shower I took right before leaving.

Most of us want the women we see to have no doubts about our cleanliness, and if an extra five minutes out of my life, or my session is going to be too much to ensure that, I think it might be time for a new hobby.

And the guy emerges from the shower wrapped in a towel, the envelope taken care of, and ready to play. I doubt if many of us object to the time spent in the shower as taking away from the session. More like part of the session, or at least making the session more enjoyable. Better yet, don't send him to the shower, TAKE him. Of course, depending on your 'do.

If so, not cool dude.

Her basic session was 70 minutes, and cost $360.  She made it clear she didn't care if you said you'd showered a half hour ago, you damn well were going to shower when you got to her room.  She was really hot and highly skilled and I don't recall hearing any complaints

Patrick Swayze dying of liver cancer with his distended belly full of ascites, that would make most people puke in their mouths too. If I am right it is Tammy Faye Baker at end stage cancer.  

She might have appreciated the bullet you would use on yourself to put her out of her misery.

LMAO

"Piece of mind?" Really?

And she looks even worse in that photo. I for one didn't blame Jim Baker for having an affair with Jessica Hahn, I mean c'Mon she's Jessica Hahn and Tammy Faye is, well Tammy Faye. I would have divorced her before I had the affair, but that's my integrity, I don't think betrayal is right. Ugly people, myself included, shouldn't take photos for the media. I can't recall the last photo I took, perhaps for my DL. If it's not cool of me to say she's hideous, then well, I'm not cool. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

I've showered with her. A Nice Prelude to the Session.

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So I will say it for you. She has got to be the most hideous person, both inside and out, that I have EVER had to displeasure to cast eyes on.

and yes, I too own a mirror, and NO I am not going to be posting my ugly mug anywhere for the media either, not that anyone is asking of course. lol

It's funny, I used to live right down the street from the hotel where Jim Baker and Jessica Hahn hooked up in Sand Key Florid, that room became the most requested room they had. lol

I put images of Tammy Faye Baker and runny makeup into a browser and came up with this since I knew she was known for that style.

Didn't know that she passed away of cancer.

My apologies.

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You must be going out on the town this weekend.

I spanked my monkey (bad monkey) quite a few times to the images of that woman. Yummy!

but once she got some money and got a complete makeover she went straight up to "downright hot"

I am too lazy to research any "old" pictures of her from before her makeover/s, but she was rather ordinary looking, but of course "ordinary" was a thousand time better than TammyFaye.

Here's my own personally autographed bush shot of Jess.  We were very close

and is quite certain he doesn't stink, then he's not likely to be offended if you ask. If he does stink, then too bad if his feelings are hurt. A lot can happen between when he's last showered and when he shows up at your door. I practically always take a shower, just to put the lady's mind at ease, even though I scrub up before hand.

I wore out that copy of Penthouse. She was so yummy back then, and a recording to the story in the media the then reverend Jim Baker got caught getting blown by her. Oh Hell yeah.

I will say her choice of makeup style when healthy was the butt of jokes but to add insult to injury when the women has one foot in the grave is pitiful. And for the record The Rev Baker was no prize either.

He'll probably stink after the shower as well, so he's just a lost cause.

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Inicky's pic is obviously a "post makeover" shot of JH, She didn't look a tenth that hot back when Jim Baker fucked her.

I am sure there are some "pre makeover" shots of her, but I am too lazy, and you would be disappointed in them any how, so why bother? lol

That of course doesn't mean that I would wish cancer on her just for her physical appearance, but both her and Jim Baker represent everything that is wrong about organized religion. They are both ugly to the bone and cancer had nothing to do with it.

I detested her when alive, and quite frankly I don't feel any need to talk any better about her now that she's dead. Good riddance IMO. She was a vile and despicable person, and her husband was perhaps even worse.

I thought about what I could say to add to what you said, and everything I thought of would have been redundant.

Well said man

Just as soon as I can sync up our schedules, you've been on my fav list for quite some time now.

I did want people to know how I REALLY felt about her. lol

I remember the first night I ever spent in Charlotte NC, it was maybe thirty years ago, well before every city had five hundred TV channels. I think Charlotte had maybe eight channels of programming at the most after about 11 PM and it I bet you seven on the eight had the "Jim and Tammy" show airing.

My first thought after about thirty seconds of watching them was "who are these fake, nauseating Pseudo Christians, and why in the world would anyone want to watch this show" My second thought was "Damn, if that isn't the ugliest fucking woman I have ever seen in my entire life!!!" lmao

Ok, that should remove any lingering doubt about how I feel about the Bakers, and that was before they got caught stealing millions from their idiot followers.

If feel like I should have then I will ask. No one has forced me take one other than the Asian providers. Showers or shall I say showering with you, washing your body and a short BJ appear to be their standard fare. So, I go along with the program.  

No reason to wrapped around the axle about it.

But nor is/was he. They suited each other. The ONLY reason that bimbo fucked him was his money. She possibly shut her eyes and fantasized about someone completely different while he was humping her.  

I do agree they fleeced millions and should burn. I have had so many people I know affected by cancer, that was all I saw. If there was an image of her pre cancer...yeah I would have jumped on it too.

is available.  I haven't found a provider yet who has said no.  Sometimes they will join me in the shower.  Depending on my after plans, I may take a quick shower before leaving as well.

It is rare that I don't mention I want to take a quick rinse off shower at the incall because I want to be squeaky clean!! Many times I bring my own towel and 2 or 3 different soaps so the woman I am meeting can select which she prefers. course after making the trip to the in call I'm tired and need help getting out of my clothes.

I found it is a great way to relax when I arrive, get rid of any tension from worry about being late, assures the woman her tongue can explore any where she likes with out fear, and I believe demonstrates willingness to be very clean.
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from her last interview before she died.

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