TER recently changed some of the review policies. See Guidelines below. Specifically rule 8 and 9.
Rule 9 was mentioned here a few days ago. (Although it wasn't officially changed in the policy yet at that time).
In the past if you wrote a new review of the same provider, the new one would replace the original. Under the new rule the original review remains so one reviewer can have multiple reviews of the same provider on her profile.  

Seems all so trivial... I guess people will come up with any formula possible to justify what they charge.

OTOH, while DFK and BBBJ are rather/very important to me, anal, really bi and gang bangs have ZERO importance to me and I wish THAT was the change TER had made in the review guidelines.

Presently most doubles review ( FMF) are separate from  the typical MF session.
Will reviewers now be writings these for more ten one provider to get the extra point ?


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then it doesn't matter if she's bi, or does greek, or MFM.

Now I have to check her profile and READ her reviews to decide if I want to see her.

Why should a provider receive extra point for doing bbbj or dfk?. Its always been odd to me that a 1-10 review system also was dependent on what type of provider she is.  

And won't gals be expected to meet those expectations by some pushy johns who read those fictitious reviews? I don't see this being good for the women here.

Conan the  Grammarian wants you all to know that it's "fewer tens," not "less tens."

But what the hell is wrong with a 9?

It shouldn't matter what the girl offers or not as she should be available for a 10 regardless of menu BUT...lets be practical. The number of 10/10 reviews would skyrocket.  

If they do bbbj and DFK they can get a 9. If they are really bi and it's a doubles massage session they could actually get a 10.

I don't know if I can believe you! I changed it anyway, but the subject line is still fucked up. "Changes in Reviews" is not a complete sentence.

I understand that, and i understand the push to suppress 10/10 review inflation, i just think its a funny way of going about it.

is this a joke? if not, if all that isn't on their menu, then they're not who i'm talking about. That's just escorts advertising as massage artists. BBBJ and DFK are not massages. Really bi doesn't mean just doing doubles, really bi means that she would have to do a double and interact heavily with the provider. Again, that's not a massage.

Just kidding.  Conan occasionally has a sense of humor.

There are fbsm providers who kiss and do bbbjs, and there are also fbsm providers who will do doubles massages and interact with the other girl while not having sex with the client. There have been no sex fbsm providers who have had a lot of 9s for performance. I don't know if any 10s personally but just saying it can happen according to the rules.

If I want a sensual massage, I see a massage provider.  She's a massage PROVIDER because she does more than massage.  Almost every massage provider I've ever seen did kissing with tongue.  All did HJ, and most did BBBJ (a few just CBJ).  And many of them were really bi and would gladly double up with another provider (and interact with her), see couples, and even see female clients.

....and altho there will continue to be providers that are 'gay for pay' or going thru the motions in their doubles sessions and will still get undeserved credit for "really bi", at least it's a step in the right direction.

... Did you believe that 10 you gave was deserved?  If so, that's too bad because under the new rules, you couldn't have given her a 10.

...I never said that it was perfect. As with many thing in life certain sacrifices are needed to be made for the greater good. If this new review system means that I can't give a 10 that I really wanted too I just gotta suck it up. But if it also means that it's more accurate and it's not being abused, then it is a worthwhile sacrifice.

Then why would we even be discussing it on The EROTIC Review. They don't belong on TER.

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Instead of using a single integer for performance, report the ratio relative to the max score.  A great 7 gets a 7/7 (7 out of 7). A lackluster 10 gets a 7/10 (7 out of 10).  

But in my experience, they don't even follow their own rules. I have seen some hot girls, who gave great bbbj, and yet the review was "rejected" so either they didn't read it correctly, or the review is subjective to whomever sits in the chair on a given day and either approves or denies. And I don't write lame reviews either. I compose them in all honesty and with the full depth and flavor of the session. So guys, all I can say is good luck getting your 8, 9, or 10 approved.

They are beyond hard to find, and TER really doesn't gives the ladies any credit for duos anyway.  This is so not fair to GFE types. And will the ladies get a points for this new chemistry thing?

Unless I am with my wife, or in a doubles session I can't give a 10 no matter what she was willing to do or how much I enjoyed myself as I don't want most of the services that give point eligibility. So seeing me can automatically screw a lady in a bad way should I review regardless of how well she preformed or what she was willing to do. Fucking that. Also it means anyone with high scores DOES NOT offer regularly what I am looking for. So review scores mostly useless before are nowe are worse and I automatically hurt a top rated girl should I review so am likely to get screened out. Fucking this shit.

That won't change. Abusers will just lie as they already do. All this system means is ladies with shills for clients still get tens but honest reviewers that aren't into ass can't give good scores. This fixes nothing and gives incentive to lie in the text of reviews. Not a good thing.

Will now read - $*** discount for ass fuckers!

Will providers in their screening process now be looking to see if her potential clients have the potential to give them a 10? I am in agreement with GaGambler that I am only interested in DFK and BBJ. Anal or another or girl has very little to no interest for me, leaving a maximum score of 9. A session with another guy has a 0% chance of happening.

And will affect the "Top 100 Providers" TER list (for all cities).

All subjective anyhow...

If she won't fuck my dog, how could she possibly be a ten?

I think they've done us all a Favor.

I'd like to see fewer reviews (10 10 or otherwise), by hobbyists whose very first foray in to the review/escort world, is with a 700 dollar an hour (or higher) escort.

"those ladies with "really bi" on their profile can not get the point for really bi except if the session is a doubles session, or a session with a couple or female Hobbyist. "

There's very little that can be done about elaboration and lies in reviews (unless someone's up for having some TER Cams active for all events the admins review along with the review submitted. Don't really see that one going over well so not really worth getting up set about it in my view.

they will have to READ
omg!

I'm with you on that. In fact I suggested if TER is ever going though a big upgrade and code rewrite they should look into separating the performance ratings and the service offering -- allowing each service performed to be rated individually.

Only a provider who was born bi should get a ten.

Is that part of the change? I thought the old rules stated that massage could only get a max of 7.

Well if the old incentive for the inflated review was special treatment -- or hopes there of -- for the reviewer and what you suggest is the result of the change that should create more of an incentive for the providers not to seek inflated reviews.

I actually have had a review rejected because the acts described in the Juicy Details did not add up to the score I gave.  But given the number of new reviews they have to approve I'll bet lots of inflated scores do slip by.

is that there will be 2 additional categories that allow the reviewer to score up to a 5 star rating of whatever he would like - Chemistry & Location - So, maybe there was nothing that added an extra point, because you don't want anal or bbbj or dfk - you can still have a great session and give her a top rating in chemistry

Any time I have done a duo and been reviewed, the guy would write a duo review. Is there going to be no duo reviews now and guys must separate reviews, one for each lady? Because as it stands, you can't get the point unless you do it during the session and duo reviews aren't linked to your profile. So I feel like these new rules make things murkier in terms of bisexuality.

CHANGE is a scary thing for some.

It's rare but I have seen reviews of a provider involving a threesome with a male and female client couple instead of a duo with another provider. So that would be way for a provider to get points for really bi.

Didnt want anal Or MFM OR FMF, but still feels the time he spent was the best? I don't get it it, just because ceratain providers, on provide certain things doesn't mean their service isn't still great... How will this work with the girls who've already piled up high scores from not having to follow these new rules? Guess they will have a headstart in the 9 & 10 columns?

Where does it say that duos will no be accepted?

She'd no doubt prefer the dog over you.

It doesn't say that. But what I'm saying is that duo profiles aren't linked to your profile and don't count towards your score. So unless the guy writes a separate review for each lady in the duo, she can't get the points for being bi. The only exception which the previous poster mentioned is if a MF couple booked a provider. That is somewhat rare in my experience.

Or she books with a female hobbyist like me, which is fairly rare.
Trouble is the the "really bi" claim, like some of the other services on that short list, are often untrue and abused solely to attain higher scores.

Looks like those PHDs will come in handy after all.  

those Cock-Teasers need to
take their massage lotion  
  and get off our Board!

You claim to be a lesbian, and not the least bit bisexual. So, any bichick you fuck must be a lesbian, and therefore not actually bi.

And I'm not disagreeing with you, in the past it has been a freebie because there are ladies who weren't bi but had it on their profile for extra points.  

One definition is "I need to see this [other] person again."  Is that what this new measure means?  If so, why not be more clear about it, aka:

Instead of using a single integer for performance, report the ratio relative to the max score.  A great 7 gets a 7/7 (7 out of 7). A lackluster 10 gets a 7/10 (7 out of 10).  7/7 is 100% and a grade of A. 7/10 is 70% and a grade of C or B-.  
 
I have been with some FANTASTIC 7/7s!!  

It seems like this category might add more controversy than it extinguishes.

I am wondering if showing a photo of me eating my girlfriend's pussy will suffice as proving I am "really bi" during a MF session. Can I pick up that extra point for that? He could include in the review, "She showed photo evidence that she is really bi. I am justifying my score of 10

to express overall how he or she felt about the provider.

... that massage providers could get only up to a 7, even under the old rules. They could get up to a 10 under the old rules, and in limited circumstances even under the new rules, depending on what extras come with the massage.

As NYE said it has always been the case. The difference with the new change is in the past a massage provider would only have to offer those extra services. Now she has to perform them in the session being reviewed in order to earn certain scores.

I live in a 95% outcall service area. My location is HIS hotel room. I am now going to be rated on how well he likes his suite? Should I only accept appointments to 5 star hotels so that my location score doesn't suffer?

Lopaw can give a point for really bi in a single session and you can't, but Lopaw can't give a point for bbbj and you can. That kind of evens it out.

I think that just piles on to the source of the problem -- performance should not be driven by services offered. I think the better approach is to let the reviewer rate the various services received on how well it was performed. Right not it's all just a big jumble that largely means nothing.

A lot of sessions are outcallls. A lot of providers are outcall only.

Simple minds cannot grasp complexity and nuance

Agreed, I don't see where location belongs in an evaluation of performance. Now, I do think that perhaps location has a place in the review -- more than a few reviews I've seen will comment on aspects of the location but it's not a performance thing; location is more of a logistics aspect of the event.

I don't think you want a "bone" any more than I do. lol

confused...what do you mean "location"?...i am trying to find the meaning of that and cannot...also, chemistry is also subjective and it does go both ways...some you would have great chemistry and some you do not...that is just being human...also with a single female client, you can still just get a 9 because you would not qualify for bbbj, unless anal was performed...which gets me thinking...what if male client wants anal performed on them by you?...can i get the point?...the way i understand the verbage, anal is to be offered and performed, but is it specific by who is giving and receiving?...and what about rimming?...it seems to be more likely that would be performed than mfm to occur...just my thoughts

Unless there is a guy in the bed (about as likely as me having another guy in the bed) she can only vouch that the provider is into women. Under the present rules as I understand them only a FMF or FFM can prove a provider is "bi" and it requires either a MMF or MFM for her to qualify for "more than one guy"

I've read doubles reviews within providers' main profiles. I don't know how common that is, as opposed to making a whole new profile page for two or more ladies together. And I don't know how common it is for people to pour through reviews to find ones that mention doubles. But they're there.

... At least not since TER realized that there are lady hobbyists out here

You don't hurt her just because you don't give her a "10."  

Give male providers (aka TSes) an extra potential point for being willing to do dudes. Equality.

Very good point! Anal should include giving or receiving! That way if he really wants to give you a 10 he can TOFTT

I don't think many reviewers would hold a location he picked against the provider.

Not in a single session, no. But TER is not the logic police, and they will probably take for granted that providers see men. (Though there are probably specialists who only see women.) In which case any female client can vouch for them being "really bi" on the basis of seeming to be into sex with them, personally.

News flash to vern:  lopaw's sexuality has ZERO to do with whatever the sexuality of her provider actually is.
If you are unable to wrap your "mind" around that, it would be totally consistent with all your other "thoughts."

Because doubles are supposed to be in seperate profiles.

The point is that if incall location affects ratings, outcall ladies are at a disadvantage already. They can't get any points for that.

I get what he is saying. If you have a great session with a provider, you can say she is "into women" but technically you can't say she is "really bi" unless here is a male present in the session too. I doubt TER would enforce that though.

I doubt TER would enforce that. Plus the argument could be made that if a provider has a bunch of reviews from guys, and then she has a session with Lopaw that Lopaw thinks was a great session, then logic says the lady is bi. On the other hand if Lopaw TOFTT and is someone's first reviewer, then she can only conclude the Provider is into girls but has no idea if she is bi.  

I do get that, but since its assumed (correctly or not) that every provider is "straight", then my proclamation of her also enjoying women firmly roots her into "bi" territory. At least that's the simplistic way I see it.

And he was just being a pedantic putz.

Lol and that's just how I like him!

Maybe location doesn't work as a consistent rating, but it can definitely make a difference. There is a big difference between a nice incall location and a car date in a dark alley. Or a nice incall location versus a cheap motel room with used towels on the bathroom floor and an overflowing waste basket. Or even a normal incall that reeks of smoke but is otherwise clean.

I've seen what darmody is talking about. A reviewer posted a review for a provider in Minnesota, and mentioned in the details that it was a double with another provide. The same reviewer did a separate review for the other provider for the same session and again mentioned that there was a double involved with the other provider. It was odd because he rated one provider higher, but his text description for the performance for the other provider was more favorable.

yep this is exactly my point!

said point being, TER can still do whatever they want regarding the review system and most likely every review will be on a case by case basis and what is allowed in the morning, very likely will not be acceptable in the afternoon, but by evening will once again be just fine. lol

.....I guess my age is showing but I am not a big fan of change anymore.  

Great suggestion. I've also had some awesome 7/7 times.

agree...get rid of the top 100

Rule 9 might have a negative impact on some providers.

Things do slip through the cracks though. If you send in a problem report on both of those profiles, TER will remove them and you get free VIP days. They may combine them and create a doubles profile for the two providers, or they may just delete it, and the reviewer may have to write a new doubles review.  

There has always been Review manipulation, but it got exponentially worse when the Top lists came into being. There was a time when an 8 was considered an excellent review, and a 10was truly once in a lifetime.

... especially the last part about not being considered outstanding without being fucked in the ass.  

Jackass gaming the system. One session, 30 days. File a PR on it, if you can still find it.

So no more 10/10 reviews that say.  "We had a fun time, so and so is an awesome day who aims to please. The End"?

I don't think anything written. numbers or otherwise, is particularly indicative of future results.  I basically read reviews to ensure she isn't a grab the cash and dash type.  Just like any interaction, a client can help guarantee a good result by his or her own actions.  Not always, of course, but a pleasing demeanor can often be infectious.

Yeah, under which he old rules, what you actually did in your session didn't matter. It was all about what is on her profile right this minute. It was like you had to get her profile changed before you did your review, if you were "scoring" her for acts she participated in with you that weren't already on the profile.

But honestly Unless a provider is seeing a couple or is seeing a female hobbyist like you, she will get no real credit for being bisexual. A duo date doesn't even show up on a lady's profile! :-/ope

I think it's unfortunate that this rule is in effect, so I feel ya on this big time!

Why do you think I call you "Mini Conan?"

If we wanna get rid of 10s (which seems to be the goal here), can't we just eliminate the numerical scoring altogether?  

Seriously, how does one "grade" chemistry? That's literally the most YMMV thing out there and completely irrelevant from one client to the next (since it's not within the provider's control).  

Well if I see a provider and I'm convinced that she's really bi, I couldn't imagine TER having an issue with that. I can't imagine a more definitive way to prove a lady's bi then to have a session with a lady client  

No longer can I order other guys not wanting to fuck a woman up the assignment or fuck her with another dude be able to give a high score in a none duo review regardless if she is willing to be fucked up the ass. And given review scores should reflect her normal dates. Any lady with a 9+ score can't be offering the no anal session regularly unless she is repressing reviews or getting her clients to lie. A score of 9+ on performance means she just simply can't be regularly offering what I want under these rules without using tactics like review suppression I really wish to avoid.

TER's new performance rating will not affect my 10's, because the services I offer and perform during a rendezvous will qualify me for a 10 (if the reviewer feels I deserve it). For the hobbyists who do not request anal, well...it means I will most likely receive a 9 (God forbid) unless I slide his cock in my 'naughty place' while he's not looking.  

It's simple.  TER just has lopaw create a committee of lady mongers whom she certifies as "really gay" or at least "really bi." Only after lopaw, et. al., has DATY'd a hooker does she qualify automatically as "really bi" and become eligible for an extra point.
I hope lopaw is willing to take on this onerous task.
I believe the odds are good.

Well said Arden. A lady can do "everything" , but anal and still provide a 10 service.  I have had  a few ladies ask me to give them a higher score so they could be ranked higher on TER.   I refuse to play that game because we rely on accurate information to select a provider. I would never give a 10 or any other score if it was not deserved.  

You need some type of quantatative measures. The scores help.

and you think a bit of deflection will make people forget that little fact.  

sometimes the numbers do not match what is written...some could say that was the best time they ever had, but score a 6...so numbers are not needed

I will have to wait and see on those changes, but I do not like the changes in performance. It means a provider can deliver a perfect session for me, offer every damn menu item under the sun, and still can't get the score she earned because I don't want to pack her shit down with my dick she gets penalized if I review her. That's bull shit, plain and simple. It is a great way to disincentify guys with limited menus from reviewing.  

She likes pussy but only tolerates dick for money. She is not bi at all she is gay.

you are merely a pale and feeble version of The Real Deal.
Dream on, Little Guy.

Why not qualitative ?  

Providers who are extremely beautiful, professional, AND sane...AND do activities which are taboo, high in demand and available on a limited basis deserve higher rating points, since it's rare to find that combination of traits all in one woman.