Most of the rates I see for two SP's providing "time and companionship" to one guy is double what one SP would charge. But why is the amount more when a single SP is joining a couple when the amount of time spent in companionship is still the same?
You are paying for the time and companionship of 2 women not just one. When a lady joins a couple, she is spending time with 2 *hobbyist* even though the lady in question is generally not considered a hobbyist.
When booking 2 providers for one session, you essentially have 2 business women spending time with you. The scenario can vary from appointment to appointment depending on alot of factors. Is it two girls entertaining each ohter for the gents benefit, are they entertaining just the gent and not each other...the list goes on and on.
I know alot of ladies give a cut rate for seeing gents together. I know when I worked with the beautiful Brooke Butler and Harley of Tampa we always gave a cut rate (i.e. I normally charged $300 an hour but when working with these ladies the hourly went down to $250/$200 a piece respectively).
The bottom line is....when booking two women who are providers you will always pay more. The ladies need to be compensated for their time and the costs are always a bit higher the more elaborate the fantasy. This holds true when booking with a Dom/Sub, asking for trips to Greece ect. These are specialites that are not always the norm.
xoxox
V
-- Modified on 10/3/2003 11:02:53 AM
I can totally understand and agree with the rates when two providers are brought in for one session. But if one provider is asked to entertain a couple, isn't the provider's time the same as entertaining for a single person?
It may be the same amount of time, however now she is entertaining two people.
Laura
why the rate for entertaining 2 people should be the same as 1? The provider in question is in fact spending her time occupying 2 people. It really doesn't matter if they are a couple or not. Her energies are now focused on 2 and she has to make sure that 2 people in the room are happy and satisfied not just one.
I don't know how many ladies entertain couples but it is an incredible and exhausting process. I can only remeber 1 date...the last date I took before retirement....that the entire process did not completely wear me out. You must make sure she is happy and content and not feeling left out, as well as making him feel the same. You must be aware of all the intricacies of their relationship (intimately of course) as to not step on any toes. You must know when to start and when to stop and when to go on and play with one instead of the other. It's a hell of alot of fun, but more work than you could possibly imagine, and yes it is worth more money than just focusing your time and energy on one person.
hope this helps
xox
V
-- Modified on 10/3/2003 3:15:48 PM
I don't see couples any more because I found it to be too tiring----not so much physically tiring, but emotionally tiring. I'm probably not explaining it very well but you are basically entertaining two different clients with two different expectations, feeings and needs.
I think providers who can see couples (and consistently make both parties happy) deserve a lot of praise and should definitely charge more than a solo session with one gent.
When we work harder, we charge more. The cat's out of the bag!
-- Modified on 10/3/2003 4:29:58 PM
I absolutely agree with your subject line.
However, I think the argument about working harder goes down the wrong road. For the kind of dough that it costs to see a quality provider, I better be getting 100%... To imply that there's an additional "overdrive" setting that a provider has to go to in order to serve a couple, also then implies that that extra level of effort is being held back when seeing a lone guy.
I remember when a big name football player was injured a few years ago and a player said that the rest of the team moved their performance up a notch to fill in for the franchise player's absence.
The coach was absolutely livid and publicly humiliated (and later waived) the player who made the remark. I paraphrase his comments: "It doesn't matter whether the marquee player is on the field or not, the rest of you are still expected to put in 100% on every play. If you have a reserve level of performance you can draw upon when needed, then you are by definition holding back on the rest of the games, and you're not welcome on this team."
In short, if I'm seeing you alone, simply take the amount of effort you'd put into seeing a couple for an hour, and focus all that effort on me instead.
I did not say that well. If you knew who I was, then you would probably know that I always give everything I have to the person I am with. I don't even see couples, so I don't have that experience to compare. I do, however, charge less per hour for social time than I do for private time. I enjoy the social time as a prelude to private time, and want to encourage it. I guess that really is the only reason my prices are as they are. It's all about what it's worth to me, and it's worth it to me to get to spend time getting to know someone before we get naked together. Social time is less physically strenuous, but receives just as much of my attention.
However, paying all my attention to one person is different from dividing it between two or more persons. So, perhaps LauraofBoston is more on point, and it is mostly a matter of how many people one is entertaining.
It is easier to please a man than it is to please a woman!
With a man, it is a physical sport: drop the pants...raise the 'flag', 'salute' the flag, and get to work.
With a woman, it involves compliments and a lot of other ingredients. You have to make sure she doesn't get jealous
and a lot of other qualities complicating life. This can drain you a lot more than the physical activities alone!
-SF-
Come on folks, let's be serious.
These ladies are in this business for a single, solitary reason; to make money. This isn't a bad thing, it's just reality.
I don't care if your provider tells you over and over again that she is not in it for the money. She IS in it for the money or she wouldn't be charging.
The rates charged for ANY service are based on the presumed amount that the market will bear. If a SP wants to charge $1,000 for a toe sucking and someone is willing to pay the freight for that privledge, then the cost of the toe sucking is $1,000. There is no reason for it. The amount is simply what is being asked for the service and as long as someone pays it, it will remain that way.
The best way to lower prices would be to not frequent SP charging more than a particular price. That would be called a boycott. Of course that will never work because hobbysts think with the small head rather than the large one and therefore we would never get everyone to work together consistently.
"These ladies are in this business for a single, solitary reason; to make money. This isn't a bad thing, it's just reality." (loarthan)
But, no more so than anyone who goes to work everyday - for that paycheck. Whether you're Vice-President of Sales & Marketing, or an Escort..it's money that pays the mortgage, isn't it?
-- Modified on 10/3/2003 5:06:11 PM
Exactly my point.
Providers are not different than any other professional (please notice the use of the term "professional", indicating a respect for the profession you have chosen).
There are plenty of great providers out there. Most are extremely charming and very nice to be with, but we should NEVER assume that they are doing charity work!.
The prices charged are those that the market will bear. Can't handle the price, get another hobby.
I invited two ladies to share part of their evening with me last night and each person received their normal amount.
On a side note, they were not into each other, only me.
I am a little embarassed to admit that one lady was completely satisfied and the other wasn't. I felt extremely bad about that, because both ladies wanted to "do it all." But I did have to confess that at 35...let's just say one is all we can muster. : )