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Dear OP: can you give more details... your post seems to have been translated poorly.

I'll rehash this one time.
Spoke after having made a date a week beforehand.
Agreed after she took a few days to meet Feb 14th 10 pm
2 hours in Seattle, her base of business. Agreed to a Sunday
morning 90-120 minutes together unless Saturday night wasn't a mix.
I flew to clients Saturday V-Day and landed 45 minutes early!
Text Chloe I'm available for 90-120 early if she wishes but at least to  
advise I'm in town as planned without winter delays. She says no,  
unavailable. No problem. Client dinner ends 8:20! Texted Chloe if she likes  
I'm an hour early. She texts, "you're very pushy aren't you?" WHAT?!
1 minute later texts "I'll meet you at 10 pm as agreed in the lobby"
30 seconds later, "I'm uncomfortable and do not want to see you"
End of story. I have 32 oks on p411 and plenty of history on TER and was
polite, considerate and had looked forward to our dates. I think she is WHACKED
and she isn't hot so no big loss. Good news though, I met a civvie beauty queen and had  
the time of my life!

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"And she isn't hot, no big loss"????  Then why did you book with her in the first place.  
Shit happens, move on

You texted her not once, but twice, to see if she wanted to see you early.  

The second time you texted was even after she informed you that she wouldn't be available until the agreed upon time in her first response?

If that's what you did, you really have no justification to complain.  With all this experience you have, you should have really known better than to ask twice.  If you showed up at that agree to upon time, then you wouldn't be complaining. Doesn't matter how many reviews you have or OKs on P411, she doesn't know you.  If she felt like you were pushy just in communications, she most likely would have been worried about your behavior behind closed doors.  

And that last statement - she isn't so hot?  Then why did you opt to want to met her?  Sounds very childish, like a spoiled kid who didn't get what he wanted

He was hoping she would have time earlier not demanded to meet earlier
H hoped an hour early might work in this case no
But why cancel on someone which MANY ok's on P411 simply for wanting to see you and hoping earlier may work?

Sorry, but this would not be concerning to me but flattering.
I suppose since I see only one date per day it's not as big of a deal but perhaps she had other lovers lined up and chose to pass because she herself was irritated or whatnot? Maybe she could post here and shed some light on her choices? She clearly has an account but perhaps she is not in control of it? Booker/manager? Whatever the problem is - I personally see nothing wrong with the communication on his end. I like my dates to be eager!

The way I read his response was she had already informed his that she couldn't met him earlier than the agreed to time. So the second text wasn't going to alter her previous response.  

From my own experience,  I am guilty of being punctual. I'll factor in traffic to my commute time. Sometimes I'm early. I'll let them know I've arrived, but leave it up to them if they to see me sooner than our planned time

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of an untrustworthy or loonie provider in the event doubles or referrals matter.
Goldie is 100% correct there is nothing wrong with a Winter traveler alerting a 2 two hour date provider of landing in her city without weather dealy and that more fun time is available as well as alerting the provider who knew of a client dinner that could go OVERTIME indeed the dinner and appointment ended earlier by an hour, more fun time?!
To be shut out was a blessing and quite frankly if you look at the ladies I reviewed the past 3 years they are almost ( or were at the time ) gorgeous. CM isn't the same caliber but I was in the mood for low key. Seattle isn't exactly NY Miami Beach LA or Paris.

You obviously have seen some great girls but  just because a girl is not from one of the areas you mentioned does not mean they are beneath others and I have seen some great girls in the Seattle area.

 I feel for you but it just sounded a little rude in the end.

Only words from many years of observation & experience. There are some terrific ladies in Seattle but relatively speaking very few. If Asians, native Americans, eskimo and overweight ladies are your taste then get up there asap, plenty of restaurants too, More dining and drinking establishments per capita than any city in America.

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Did you make a wrong turn? Everyone knows to avoid Houston at all costs right lol. And I have no problem with you calling things as you see them but as you said there are diamonds in the rough!

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I had a GREAT weekend without her and the point is to use this forum to expose the unreviewable and alert those whom the information may provide an opportunity to see you rather than waste their time. Judging by your comment you are a waste of time too. BLOCKED

If he's being pushy or rude, or if I feel a little annoyed or angry with the potential client, I certainly will cancel the appointment.  I find it impossible to be intimate with someone I'm not feeling 100% good about.

If this provider canceled a pre-booked appointment with a client with 30 okays, I suspect she had a reason for it.  Even if she just wasn't 100% sure about you at the time, that's all it takes for me to cancel someone, too.  I think women are different from men in that way.

She's probably 100% sure now!

If this lady doesn't want to see you because she thinks you are pushy, I would seriously take that into consideration if you tried to book an appointment with me, now that I'm aware of it.  I wouldn't see this as an opportunity for me to possibly snag an appointment with you, myself, but as a possible red flag.  

Usually someone with that many okays or whitelisting is a client I'd want very much to see, but I have seen a couple who turned out to be disrespectful in some way.  We can't always tell that someone is going to be good because of how many "okays" they have

First, welcome to San Diego. If you're a returning visitor welcome back. Please enjoy your time here.

Thank you for taking the time to enlighten those who read this thread as to the remainder of this situation. Seems the conclusion reached by several individuals was correct.

All the best to you.

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His side: A
Her side: B
The truth: somewhere in between  

 
He said he tried to see her earlier  
Now she is saying she didn't feel comfortable from the get go...  
The math doesn't add up from their two perspectives a far as my perspective shows

 
Forgive me but without taking sides I must say his side makes more sense
Regardless of any off-putting comments he wrote or posted, not every date will have tact...  
I had a guy tell me I had chubby knees... Let's just say some guys are paying for our time for a reason haha
To me after her response it reads like she led him on if she was feeling off from the start  

 
But that's just me
Both parties are fine but this is why we share this info

If he truly send inappropriate stuff and he contacted you via P411 you should contact Gina there and have her make notes on the account to keep an eye out for other bad behavior. Same to the gentleman about her: if she has a habit of doing short notice cancelations you should contact P411 and express your opinion. Gina doesn't tolerate flaky ladies or disrespectful gentlemen. Perhaps she can sort through the BS and facts to get to some semblance of the truth.

Namaste

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To me it reads as backpedaling - saying he initially made her uncomfortable which, to me, if were true would mean not scheduling with him at all. Then again, each lady has her own comfort zone and maybe being uncomfortable is just part of the biz and think nothing of it till you just "aren't in the mood"...  

I personally would not book someone, lead them on all day then cancel last minute if my original communication was in any way uncomfortable. Sure, if suddenly he is asking for bareback or greek or getting graphic just before the date I say "NO WAY" but there doesn't seem to be any indication of that happening. Just her deciding he was too pushy/eager last minute then adding the comments here about him making her uncomfortable with the initial screening/booking.

The math does not add up. So sorry, but either there is more to the story on her/his end or one of them (or both) are not taking this as a business and profession seriously.

 
I don't know who is wrong/rite/wronged/BSing but as I have said - her perspective and stance doesn't make sense to me. And for him, IDK but the only bad thing from him I see is some snippy remarks here and nothing to suggest he would be harmful to meet.

Odd statement & he still wanted to book.  Sounds, like everything happens for great reasons.  Not sure why he would post hate if he found a beauty queen...get over it.  Your not hurting this providers business.  No one, likes catering to jerks.  When they are rude & pushy.  Regardless of how many Okay's, or whitelists you have that gives you no right to think your better, than the rest.
 

I'll reiterate my earlier statement, when you play by the rules - her rules to be more precise, then these types of situations don't occur.  It can't be any more simpler than that.

You may consider his comments to be snippy, I thought they were childish, petty and uncalled for.  That is not the behavior of a grown man.  If this is indicative of his behavior on an open forum, then chances are this type of behavior in the this world also exists.  

So we'll agree to disagree.

A meeting needs to occur to have a review go up so there is in fact no way to know if you have or have not done this before based on reviews. I don't know or care if so I'm just letting you know that info is not accurate. Just a heads up  

 
I'm not looking for proof but this is a he-said she-said situation and I personally just feel her side doesn't jive if she really was feeling uncomfortable initially.  

I have nothing to say. I just wanted to be part of the longest thread I've seen for a long time.

For the record, I spoke with CiM and she "felt very comfortable" with our dates and left open the possibility of a Monday morning as well. I did not book any other dates in consideration of the potential for multiple dates with her. I BOOKED a flight and the suite was more for HER comfort until she emailed "her rates are $100 less for in call and she is just a mile or a quick 15 minute walk away" so the "negotiation was only her preference for in call and that I would have to pay for her coming to me. That is the extent of the email and not a negotiation of rates. Compare her rates with providers I have seen including Seattle and there is no reason I would expect to donate less for her time. She is cheap for a reason and it all worked for the best. However this forum isn't to defend or accuse but a place where a flake can be subject to exposure and this semi pro completely bailed on Valentine's Day. the day after and that Monday morning President's Day.
So hobbyists beware.

You can try your best to convince others, but by your own admission your claim is baseless.

I saw what you posted on the Vegas board.  Way to go.  Slamming a lady for what?  She posts a question because she is trying to different approach to solve a situation. At the end of the string you decided to take a cheap shot. Classy, very classy.

He key not be credible to YOU but I can't imagine a reason not to see him with sooooo many P411 OKs and so many whitelists here. He obviously won't be attacking me and with OKs from some VERY HIGHLY RATED LADIES I would feel confident he will be respectful with my time and body. In fact: I may offer him a discount if he were to book a multi hour to make up for other provider issues he has had to endure!  

Again: not everyone has tact and maybe he came off oddly/badly to her but canceling short notice on someone with SO MUCH CREDIBILITY from a provider stand point - I am still baffled. Everyone has a comfort zone but to me there must be more to the story. Alas, we will never ever know.

So we each take info from this: buyer beware and every seller (provider) can change the date at her will for ANY reason so guys, be sure to not be graphic or rude or "pushy" or too eager.  
 

After I saw his comment to another lady on a different regional board,.that cemented my perception of the individual in question. That comment has since been removed.

I will say I'm both surprised and disappointed in the verbiage you chose for that final thought/comment

I suppose but you should define your perspective of credibility. What to you is credible here if not multiple whitelists, reviews, post history or 411 OKs? I just am curious why you would have commented that he has "zero credibility" because if you don't find that credible what are these forums for?

And my last comment was tongue in cheek. The consensus here seems to be he was in the wrong so I was making light by poking fun at the "she who has the pussy makes the rules" attitude as well as guys really never know what they may be getting into because as we know reviews are skewed, manipulated as well as fabricated while TER conveniently leaves a loop hole where "no meeting = no review" so ladies can book and cancel with little or no repercussion unless the gents area has these comments...

"So we each take info from this: buyer beware and every seller (provider) can change the date at her will for ANY reason so guys, be sure to not be graphic or rude or "pushy" or too eager."

 

To the OP: are you part of the guys board here? I suggest in future commenting there to potentially avoid these kind of reactions. That forum is good for informing and warning others who are as active as you seem to be.  

To all posting here: I really have no dog in this fight other than me being (still) baffled as to there reaction/response and to chime in about no meeting means no review thus TER reviews don't prove (or disprove) someone being a canceler or flake or whatnot.

 
I am trying to be objective but find my own experiences show me that this situation could have been avoided and resulted in a great time for them both together. That may be why my comments sound frustrated or annoyed... I just wish there was more communication (on both sides maybe) so each party could be comfortable and confident with their arranged date... and made it happen!

Namaste

 

I've never been accused of your claims and YOUR PERSONAL ( which is it you or personal ) pet  
( we animals here? ) peeve that someone texts you they've landed early (and since you claim to see only one client a day) and would YOU care to meet early AND again later is cause for flaking.
I think it is important everyone know this before booking with you. Furthermore cancelling at 8:40 pm when a second text 5 not 6 hours later that my client meeting had ended and did YOU wish to meet earlier is another peeve?! Being late is sometimes unavoidable but offering to pay you thousands for your time is a pet peeve and cause for last hour cancellations?! Good luck kid you're going to need it. This thread is over. You were wrong and suffer from foot in mouth syndrome.
Btw I never mention explicit acts and always include "time and company" as it is ILLEGAL to pay for the former so watch whom you accuse and what you say in any forum. Your profile already displays your rates for additional fictional services.

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My error was proper communication, an offer later in the evening to make a 10 pm earlier ( to 9 pm ) IF CONVENIENT for the provider given we also had plans for an 8 am Sunday 2 hour date and to have contacted her in the first place as proven by the events that unfolded. This regional board allows one to alert other members, since we cannot review a no show or a flake of the greater possibility of what indeed took place, especially without regard to having the feedback, WL and p411 OKs. Those that have less experience or resources might have been disappointed. For providers who rely upon feedback, referrals when touring and the like the regional board is a place to share the experience as the Ad boards are not the venue TER offers reviewers. As to the unhappy camper with 3 reviews, his ineptitude is exceeded by his ignorance. TM and I have communicated for months, I was PM'd by another who acknowledged KL is part of a "group" and I have physically been in TM's in call and she doesn't offer in call! Goldie, I appreciate your ability to have an open mind and I hope that expression isn't considered an illicit comment by the butchie in the PNW. : )

Chloe May is the best!

But jc316, you sound like a dick.  Stop crying and find someone else.

asshole it's for your benefit. Someone else? see todays review

It's usually because they lack any sense of maturity and even less class.

But that's just how I see it. I'm positive others see it that way as well.

I don’t have a dog in this fight either.   I only sought justification and clarification as to why the OP made the original post.  There was zero information provided.  As you well know, those kinds of statements have a profound impact on a person’s reputation and livelihood.  So they need to be well thought out and truthful in their justification.  

I thought I had summarized fairly well what transpired, based on the initial response from the OP.  I believe that this meeting would have occurred had he just shown up at the appropriate time.  However, the OP chose to become derogatory in his comments.   That behavior has continued to show whenever someone doesn’t take his side or disputes the chain of events.  In fact, even on other boards the OP has displayed this similar behavior.  

As far my assessment of the OP having no credibility even thought he has all this prior history, it’s because of the actions and behavior displayed.  The events that were initially described by the OP continue to evolve and change to portray the OP in a positive light.   Reviews and whitelists are somewhat relevant, but it only reflects a moment in time.  So when the two types of behavior being displayed conflict, credibility is lost.    

We also need to be cognizant of the fact that if there were other occasions where this same type of behavior was displayed, what recourse does the other party have?  The purpose of these forums should allow both parties to alert others of individuals who exhibit less than desirable attitudes and etiquette; but it has to be done with 1000% truthfulness otherwise it just becomes a forum for personal vendettas, which this certainly seems to have become.   That’s my take on it.  

Hopefully this answered any question you may have.  This is my final post on this thread

Some things are better left unsaid.  Seems some people don't know how to move on.  Sorry about all this negative publicity Chloe, there are a lot of us who are respectful, hope you had a nice visit despite all the squabble.
JB

Goldie is always quick to drag a provider down. I actually think she enjoys doing it. I'm sure the smart providers are taking note of this jc316 guy and putting him on their "do not see" list. At least she canceled on him instead of blowing him off. So now a provider isn't allowed to cancel? She didn't feel comfortable seeing you, END OF STORY.  

Then you call her ugly? What kind of junior high bull crap is that? "I don't like you anymore because you  won't play with me." Yeah, I think I remember saying something like that..... when I was in kindergarten! Grow the f--k up and get over it.

Are you that hard up for cash that you have to practically beg this guy to see you, Goldie? Seriously, a discount? Subtle, aren't ya? That's just sad.  I can see right through your bull shit, Goldie. You're one angry little girl, aren't you? I don't know why anyone in their right mind would want to spend time with you after reading one of your posts. I guess guys really do think with their little head. You must really know how to rock a pair of knock off loubs.

Didn't you get the memo? That rule only applies to Goldie.

Hey shit for brains go fuck CiM this post is beyond your comprehension.

Only that I don't understand her perspective and that from my seat I would not have acted so.
My only comments were letting her and others know the review policy requires a meeting to allow a review to be submitted...

Please link where I called anyone ugly. Thanks. Again, I made no negative remarks about her at all just that there are two sides and that we must take what we can from this info what we each can. Nobody said she can't cancel just that from my seat her explanation doesn't jive. That's all.

I do plan on meeting him actually and we are both excited.  
And I don't own knock offs (wanna see the receipts heehee).  
It shows your attitude if your read any of my comments as angry and I hope you find happiness!

I for one love to offer specials to people who appear credible and have has a prior missed connection or might need a pick-me-up. Hope this makes more sense and hope you reread my posts as just being my perspective and not meant to take sides, but again, to mention that to me it's not adding up.

I wasn't there nor were you so we will never know and must just try to avoid our own issues like this in future. Live learn and make love!

xo

I love swooping in when someone is having a missed connection or needs a pick me up!
It's a good feeling spreading happiness (and my legs)

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