I don't know about ACTUAL models, but I have noticed an uptick in Brazilian "talent" in the NYC area lately.
Their loss is our GAIN!
So, I've given up on PS rates coming back down to REASONABLE, pre-COVID levels, so it's either a "take it or leave it" approach. Hence, I've readjusted my absolute spending parameters.
What ABSOLUTE amount would you gents ULTIMATELY cap a PS session at (and we're talking about with your CURRENT income/assets, NOT if you won next weeks' POWERBALL! LOL!)?
IMO, the MOST I would honestly spend is $1.2k/hr.
Some of my ATFs, like an "Ashlyn Peakes," or a "Kailani Kai" are charging as much as 2K/hr, which even if I had it, I would be DEEPLY disturbed by spending so much.
What about you, gents?
Thanks for participating (and if it DOESN'T apply, let it fly
The pricing structure on PS escort service these days are out of hand. Good old days when PS services would be in the realm of 1.5-1.7 depending on the star power or desirability factor- I had been willing to shell out upto 2.0. Cos then the supply was way less than the demand or the ability to be in the presence of the aura of a PS, a one that you have jerked off numbers of times.
But in todays world, the stable of fresh and newly minted PS escorts with unknown service offerings are averaging 1.5 through agencies ( I guess a better way for not being Bait & Switch).
Now that I’m getting in that proverbial middle age when you fancy younger- the -better attitude, I’m willing to shell 2.5 or even 3.0 for such absolute bucketlists as Vina Sky or Gianna Dior- solely for their desirability factor and that they are super young ( despite the fact I know that they have been railed a thousand times). I even heard that VS had a baby with Jules Jordan, and while I can just Google it, I would like to not go looking for it lol!
But in the normal order of today’s business, if younger Asian PS, I would really go upto 1.6/1.7 and if Latina or white 1.3-1.6.
I’m sure a lot of gents would agree with me, as these are the new Normals now. But those who are willing to shell out 2.0-2.5, kudos for TOFTT, and please continue with the feedbacks / reviews so we can make an informed decision for partaking or not, given the uncertainty as they label it YMMV despite the price tag you just honored.
Read a few stories in reviews here in TER, and felt so sorry for those gents who had been plain robbed by a PS ( confirmed with the meeting / not a poser or B&S) for such a big amount with no service rendered.
There has been at least one encounter in each and every hobbyist quest, where the provider will charge a steep price ( .5) to see, and hobbyist thinking he hit a jackpot. All built up with BBBJ and all sorts of petting and pecking - will ask another .3/.5 to actually penetrate. A huge fucking scam.
So let’s look out for each other and call out on such PS or even regular providers so we can utilize our hard earned money in the right place.
... that PS pricing is out of hand.
I've seen ACTUAL PS (not wanna-be's/"flutters") in the RECENT past for bet. $600-800/hr (my reviews are on here to PROVE it).
I've accepted that those days are LONG gone (unless we enter into some kind of SERIOUS depression!)
Where I differ is encouraging others to spend upwards of 3K/hr for a PS session.
While many may feel that it's an INDIVIDUAL right/preference, the fact is, giving into such rates only encourages the "MARKET" to continue charging such EXORBITANT rates, while also encouraging mid-tier/NON-PS pros to also raise their rates.
I encourage anyone with a legitimate economics background to argue either pro or con.
I have a BA in Econ. I took an upper division class where we delved into the Laws of Supply and Demand for illegal activities.
As I recall, the Price Elasticity of Demand doesn't follow the same patterns as legal goods and services. In other words, there are always going to be people willing to pay significantly above what the normal market price to have sex with a top tier porn girl. This drives the bottom of the market up because no girl thinks she is a bottom tier porn actress. They all glamorize the industry which is pumped up by the fact that they are all called "Porn Stars" even though very few of them ever reach a star status.
Prices are also driven up by opportunity cost. The girls have other ways to monetize their popularity now with Onlyfans and other vehicles where they can sell their name, image and likeness. Because of these other avenues, I think the ones that are willing to escort need more money to be enticed to leave the comfort of their own home (where they can stream, make content... for money) to have sex with some random dude.
My experience has been to book them in their rookie year before they are too popular and rates double or triple. If you are keen on spending time with multiple girls in a certain city, just make sure you get a recent clean test to insure booking.
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Not really tricky at all.
Just a quick review of this site and others will tell you WHERE the "market" stands.
Apparently, the baseline rate for any self proclaimed "PS" currently starts at $1k/hr, with the avg. actually being $1.2k/hr.
Unfortunately, $2k/hr is becoming more common among actual known PS.
The harsh REALITY is that, unless you're willing to put up those kind of "numbers," you're out of the "game." 
There are two reasons that prices have climbed so high: Reason #1. The agencies. Keep in mind that the agencies add anywhere from $300 to $1000 above the price the porn star wants/gets. The agencies claim that this is because they are paying the hotels, plane fares, and all the other expenses. I say B.S. Long gone are the agencies that don't inflate the prices. I miss TLC. Reason #2. The girls are asking for more money because there are so many guys out there willing to pay those prices. No, I'm not talking about the guys on sites like this one, although some of the guys on here do pay those prices willingly. The guys I'm really talking about are the guys who DON'T use sites like this. The DJTs, the EMs, the CS's of the world who have more money than brains. If you don't know who those guys are, I won't name them, and I don't want to get into political arguments here. Btw, it's not just porn stars. There are a lot of "top escorts" who are not models or porn stars who are asking $1200/hr and up.
There are still quality porn stars who charge $1K OR LESS. They are hard to find, but you can find them if you do the leg work. There is one porn star I know out of the NYC area who charges $900 (or did the last time I talked to her) for full GFE service, including BBFS. No, I won't name her - she's UTR.
The point is that it's not about the economics, it's not about whether or not the girl's are worth it, it's not about COVID, or even the cost of things like hotel rooms, plane fares, makeup, nails, etc. or all the other B.S. that people claim it is. It's about the agencies gouging their customers, and it's about the fact that for every guy who says "no" to the high prices, there's another guy (or two) willing to pay that price.
Disclaimer: I have not dealt with all of the agencies that exist out there who represent porn stars. There may be some that do not gouge clients. But, I have talked to plenty of the agencies, and I've also talked to some of the girls, and I've gotten a lot of "behind the scenes" info from a number of people in the industry/hobby and I'm basing my comments on the info that I have.
Man, "TLC?"
Talk about a "blast from the past!"
Haven't heard that name for awhile!
(If I recall correctly, they were busted for some kind of "human trafficking" issue, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
I gotta disagree with men like DJT, et al, as being the TYPICAL client for these thousand dollar girls.
Frankly, there aren't ENOUGH of them to make it economically feasible.
My hunch is the typical PS client now is probably some hard working, middle class professional, be it a doctor, lawyer, etc, who probably treats himself about ONCE a year, thereby making that 2k fee that much more tolerable.
In this country of over 300 million, there certainly are enough of these "one off" types to create a reasonable customer base for these ladies.
Also, there's the lack of DIVERSITY in the PS booking arena.
Off the top of my head, I can only think of THREE agencies, Alluring Intros, Porn Companions, and Lourdes that currently "manage" PS talent.
There isn't enough COMPETITION out there to encourage any of these few agencies to lower their rates to a more REASONABLE level.
I think Tryst Agency is trying to push into this space. Competition is always good for the consumer.
Yeah, I almost forgot about them.
A decent line-up, but again, EXORBITANT (2K/hr and up!) rates.
And yes, in THEORY, competition should always favor the consumer.
I paid 2.5k to see Kimmy Granger. It was 2k, but i gave another 500 to be allowed to film for a bit.
Honestly, totally worth it, she was amazing.
Can i ask how did you set it up w/her - agency or indy, how long ago was it, and what was allowed. I'd love to set up one w/her if she's still available? Thanks
I was like 5-6 years ago, probably 2018. I was through an agency, they were called Premiere Playdates. They aren't around anymore. I haven't seen her listed anywhere since unfortunately.
Namely, until more porn stars go independent or more younger porn starts enter teh market, the 'rack' prices will be high, 1500+ or more
not enough agencies, they do set prices
lots of PS will take less than 1500 if not thru an agency, but that's difficult, they will get 1000 for an agency charging 1500, the agencies know they can by and large tell people to go pound sand
many porn stars would take 800-1000 and make the same amount, but it's too big a hassle. some end up with sugar daddies
Porn Stars vs other escorts are more of a novelty so that also drives the prices higher they can command a high price for so many non-repeat customers
don't see Porn Stars I guess
plus Porn Stars are concentrated in LA, Miami, NY, & Vegas as it is, it's a huge distorted market
Porn "stars" ALWAYS came at a premium, which was OK, having seen a few myself in the recent past.
There was the "fantasy" factor, plus these ladies are usually touring, so chances are, you'd most likely only get to see them ONCE a year.
But, to have an EXORBITANT rate like 2k/hr now increasingly becoming the NORM?
That's just DISTURBING, and completely turning me off to this category of the "game."
It’s pretty evident only fans allure diminishing either by lacking fan interest or competition from all the girls. It’s inflation or inflated prices. Plus are there really true porn stars anymore?
Non porn stars are charging 1-2k. I normally
Just pass, so many Brazilian models right now touring why put up with that? I’d take advantage of that while it lasts.
Brazilian models ? Where ar you finding these touring ladies?
I don't know about ACTUAL models, but I have noticed an uptick in Brazilian "talent" in the NYC area lately.
Their loss is our GAIN!
Ashley is a former porn star with over 300 films to her credit. She is significantly under 1K per hour. And quite frankly, she is pretty open to just about anything except anal. Her BBBJ is legendary. Anyway, just thought I would mention her.
God bless her, but the problem of price GOUGING among porn stars isn't gonna be solved by one-offs.
It's an INDUSTRY wide problem.
I never said it would. I was just suggesting an alternative.
Ultimately it's an inefficient market. This porn star may be 2xxx through an agency but 1xxx direct and even less on cheap sites and seeking. Two comparable porn stars may have different pricing. Older washed up "legends" charge more than up and coming hotties. Then there is the bucket list factor.
It's hard for me to comment on ricing as my circumstances have changed so much. Was a time I was making bank and willing to drop $1500 or so on my obsessions like Abigail Mac, Eva Lovia, Ana Foxx and Aria Rae even though I had access to girls like Alex Tanner, Bella Moretti and Nikki Lee Young for 300.
Nowadays I need to be more careful with my money, but I don't feel as driven by most of today's big names. And the up and coming girls like Theodora Day and Clara Trinity charge a fortune.
Pro tip: if you click with these girls you can see them at a considerable discount booking direct going forward and if you live in Miami or LA you can find some on Seeking. I got two pretty cheap off there.
I find that the prices are higher for both the established pornstars who are still active in the industry, and the fresh-faced 20-somethings. I stick to the retired ones. I don't need to meet some 24-year old that I've never heard of.
Willing to pay as much as $1500.
I can't pay 2k for a P-star. I tried to see Madi Collins some months back and this was her asking price. I mean, she is literally flat chested with red hair and in no way worth 2 grand. There are just too many options out there for lesser prices and better services. With her, you are just paying for her name.