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Obama 2012. To the guys who voted for him in 08...
HankWilliamsJr 5749 reads
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Will you vote for him again and why?

First in the primary, and second in the general. I voted for him in the primary just to get Hilary to STFU. I voted for him in the primary because he ran as a progressive.

I will not vote for him again because he has governed as a moderate conservative in a time when our nation desperately needs progressive pro-working class policies.

he's a blantant Socialist like you?  Personally, I'll probably vote for him again because the alternative will be either a nut-job or a bland boob like Romney or Pawlenty



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Priapus531082 reads

I was so fed up in the 80's with lousy POTUS choices, that in '80, I voted fo 3rd party candidate, while in '84, I sat out the Presidential election.

I could certainly exercise those options in '12.

Did you vote for Anderson in 80?

Posted By: Priapus53
I was so fed up in the 80's with lousy POTUS choices, that in '80, I voted fo 3rd party candidate, while in '84, I sat out the Presidential election.

I could certainly exercise those options in '12.

Interesting choices.........?  Anyway, if you tend to like what you hear from Bachmann, then you would probably be equally impressed with Herman Cain although his chances to get the nomination are pretty slim.  I'm still hoping the conservatives will find another candidate but one thing for certain, I wouldn't support Obama under any circumstance.

I can't understand why anyone who likes Bachmann would vote for Obama, or vice versa.  Can you enlighten us?

Rocket2031006 reads

Michele Bachmann is my preferred choice. She stands for everything I believe in. Now why would I waste a vote on Herman Cain when he clearly has no chance of winning. Herman Cain biggest accomplishment was selling pizza.  

Mitt Romney I would never vote for, this guy passed Obama Care in his own state, talk about a horrible record.  

I voted for Obama last year, yeah I was sold on the "hope and change" BS, and hes done a horrible job as president. Its either going to be Bachmann or Romney to get the GOP nomination, I follow politics on a daily basis so its a given.

As of now I prefer Obama over Romney, I'd rather vote the for the devil I know, than the devil I don't know. Think about that quote.

Mainly because Bachmann's policies and beliefs are antithetical to Obama's.  Romney's policies are closer to Bachmann's than Obama's are.  The fact that Romney passed health care in his own state is more important to you than that Obama passed it for the entire country?  So you'd vote for Obama?  I can't wrap my mind around that.  Still, if Romney is the nominee I'll be happy to have your support as a fellow Obama voter.

Rocket203731 reads

You can't compare Romney's record to Bachmann's, Romney is a complete liar and a flip flopper.

First he was for abortion, now hes pro life. First he was for Obama Care now hes against it. And it wasn't the fact that Romney passed the health care law in his own state, it was that the bill was similar to Obama care, which Romney is supposedly against now.    

There is a serious flaw in that logic.

Posted By: Rocket203
You can't compare Romney's record to Bachmann's, Romney is a complete liar and a flip flopper.

First he was for abortion, now hes pro life. First he was for Obama Care now hes against it. And it wasn't the fact that Romney passed the health care law in his own state, it was that the bill was similar to Obama care, which Romney is supposedly against now.    

 

he is more convoluted than TrannyBoy, and makes even less sense, if that's even possible.

Rocket2031739 reads

What am I supposedly suppose to be joking about? The polls clearly show that Bachmann is leading in Iowa, she's captivating and she has a plan to get this country back on track.

And Gamblersbrother who are you voting for in the 2012 election? I'd like to know which candidate you support.

I can guarantee you though, it won't be any religious nut case like Bachman, or Palin, or Huckabee. If Christie can be convinced to enter the race I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

I have not ruled out the possibility of voting for Obama under certain circumstances. I would "consider" it if the appears that the GOP was going to regain control of Congress, or if someone like Bachman wins the GOP nomination, or if Obama manages to morph from a JImmy Carter into a Bill Clinton "and" the GOP nominee is even worse than Obama.

If it comes down to Romney or a Romney type candidate I will more than likely hold my nose and vote against Obama, which I guess means I will vote GOP, but a lot can happen in a year.

Rocket2031188 reads

I'm not sure what's too hard for you to understand.
Unlike Romney, Obama is clear about his policies, Romney on the other-hand is a "flip flopper".

I respect candidates more who stand by what they believe in, instead of "flip flopping" on the issues.

Bachmann will get the nomination so I won't have to vote for Obama.

as an American and Patriot I was pulling for Obama to succeed with his "Hope and Change" message. Yes I voted for McCain. He was a Vietnam Vet and those guys have been the best leaders I have ever come across in my life and career.

President Obama has not succeeded in leadership, the economy, his promises or projecting a vision for this country that is positive. He lies. That speech last night confirmed my position that Obama does not know what he is doing. It was strange.



either in 2012. I cannot remember the last time I have been so disenchanted with both parties. Oh yes, I have displeased with both parties in the past, but this time it's different.

Frankly, both Mr. President Obama and the Speaker of the House gave some of the strangest speeches I have heard. Were both having a hissy fit? I think both parties should take a page from NFL and learn how to negoiate. At this point I wish I could have a magic wand and have Robert kraft - owner of the NE patriots and Jeff Saturday- lineman for the INdy Colts as President of the United States and Speaker of the House, respectively.

Do what is best for America. Is that so hard to do?

The level of partisan posturing and point-scoring is pathetic.  The "full faith and credit" of the US has become a political football.  If they fuck this up the economy, the stock market,  and the housing market will be in  the toilet (well, the latter's already in the toilet but it can still get worse).  The damage that  will be done to our reputation as the most stable economy in the world, and the default place to go to invest in government bonds, will be trashed and it will be along time, if ever, til that's repaired.

Didn't vote for him in the first place, won't vote for him this time. Won't vote for anyone currently running; don't trust any of them any further than I could toss a boulder.

I will do as I usually do when I don't like who's running: write in a person I think would be great as POTUS, but who also has sense enough to never run for any office.

He would never run for any elected office, although he's been known to run down to Costa Rica a time or two.  He's been observed in Colombia, Atlanta, Vegas and even hosted a beerfest or two.  I think he would do you proud.

thanks for the kind words though.

of course that's what I said about becoming a TER moderator until they told me how many people would go ape shit learning that someone like me was going to be a mod. Add the fact that I could fire Willy's worthless carcass, and who knows? Maybe being POTUS wouldn't be such a bad gig after all. lol

General_Sherman1520 reads

And I'm gonna hold ya to it!  Any Presidential run will be terminated by me and my men.
PS:  On to Richmond!

I hate dynasties in government. I had my eye on McCain until Bush beat him in the primaries, and when he put Palin on the ticket with him.

But, I wish Chuck Hagel would run. Why? I don't know. I just like him, his personal history, and I've found him to have more integrity than most politicians. If he did, I'd probably vote for him. Also, Bloomberg, but he would have to run as an Independent. He's too much a pragmatist for the idealistic Tea Party to accept him. Given the Republican field to this point, I can't see voting for any of them unless perhaps some of them begin to reveal their bundlers. Well, maybe that will make me want to vote for them even less. If Ron Paul wasn't such an isolationist I would seriously consider voting for him. So, so far it looks like Obama again. Too bad Clayton Powell isn't available. I'd even give a close look at Kay Bailey Hutchinson. It's truly interesting how so few, with truly great personal character are running. Perhaps it's the public scrutiny, or knowing what one has to become to be part of the system: losing oneself, and all that they truly believe in and value.

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digem-all1118 reads

While he has disappointed me is some regards, he has accomplished much during his term thus far and when compared to the current crop of Republican candidates, it's a no brainer>

During his term...

Passed Healthcare reform (finally...but did not go far enough)
Saved the US Auto industry (Could you imagine the employment rate if he didn't do this)
Passed Stimulus Bill (over 288 Billion dollars of tax relief to the middle-class and kept several states from even more severe budgetary issues)
Finally getting us out of Iraq in combat operations mode
Killed Osama bin Laden
Made Al-Qeda irrelevant and killed more AQ leaders

Pretty effective I think...

three are exactly why I wouldn't vote for him:  

__no one has the authority to tell me I MUST have healthcare - not even my boss
__no business is ever too big to fail if they aren't using common sense business practices, and
__the stimulus bill didn't stimulate anything of any lasting value that I've yet heard about  

Your fourth hasn't been accomplished yet; troops are still over there and he's talking about sending a few more again.

Bin Laden, I'll give you that.

Al Qaida is still active and doing its dirty war-mongering.

So no, I won't vote for him.

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