The result of dumbing down our citizenry! Donald Trump!

"Moving back to Louisiana to live really did reveal to me the gap between the conservative punditocracy and those for whom they — for whom we — presume to speak. Ideas and reason matter far less to most people than they do to people like us (this is true of the left as well), not because most people are stupid, but because their mode of experiencing life is not nearly as abstract as ours."

Some of us live a life comfortable enough to entertain abstract ideals, while the rest of us don't!  

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It comes down to one thing and that's white racism.
How do you hide from that fact?

He played on white fears from the beginning and the media kissed his ass.
This is why he is so popular with the GOP and some fake crossover Democratic supporters.

I will say it again he will not win in November.
Just to many groups will fight against him.  
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Lots of people on the right are fed up with the feckless RNC and political correctness.  The RNC, Fox and National Review hate Trump and the media only cover him because he's the man bites dog story.  This gives Trump tens of millions of dollars in free advertising.  He may not even make it to November but it's going to be fun to watch.  The RNC is over either way.

The next 4 to 8 years should prove very interesting.  

Facisism--or at least one definition of it--is now part of the American discourse and will remain so for at least as long as any of us are alive. The possibility of this turn is new to the Repulucan Party and will threaten the American people as long as the GOP is part of the Koch oligarchy.

What definition of facisism are you speaking about? I'm not challenging you, I'm just not sure what you mean.

Robert Paxton says that fascism is "a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."

So most people in this country survived and overall doing better.
I will say it's not everybody but things are better than 2009!
When he first came into office.

The GOP has no answers for this country.
Just the same old race baiting tricks and paying off their rich friends.

That is the very essence of modern day liberalism as evidenced by the bogus "war on women", Occupy, BLM and the PC culture in general.

Thank you for educating me.

A presidency and a political party are not the same!  

Who is it crying 'reverse discrimination?'  

And everyone cries Matt. Even you.

Who hasn't accepted money from Koch?

KKK? 'We can't let those Ni##ers rape our women.' And, the list goes on. Then you have such groups views about the Jews.  

In fact they are called out time and time again by virtually all the right as assholes and bigots.

The groups I gave you on the left are or were LOVED in the majority of lefty circles.

Epic fail Matt.

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So, now you can play with yourself, in your sand box, while I go have fun some place else!  

One question before I do. Do you think the members of those white racist groups vote for the presidential candidates who claim to represent the right or the left?  

The Right rejects them almost unanimously. That's the key.

And I like you, have no desire to make this thread go all the way down the page and end up some were in China. lol

There are many things the right does that the left doesn't like talk about cutting the size and scoep of big govt only to lie t my face.

This is an issue (victimhood) however, that the left owns, almost lock, stock and barrel. But not something I wish to argue all afternoon and night.

If you want it, take the last word.

Peac

I don't know if they were on the right or left, or both, but those who fought in our Revolutionary War felt victimized by England!  

That's the way it is with most, if not all revolutions! And, we may not be that far from one, once again.  

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That the guy defining Facism to us can't even spell it? I'm impressed. Oh. And the Nazi couldn't spell it either. Too funny.

Obama doesn't have a coalition outside of his cult of personality. At least this cycle, there is no one even close to being able to pick up that support across the board.  

I think the entire right-wing cry that America gets no respect is part of why I think Paxton's definition applies. The talk about making American great "again..." When were we greater? During Jim Crow? Vietnam? Certainly not anytime in the lifetime of the boys campaigning these days. And of course they want to take America back, but they aren't very clear about how far back they want to take us. So that's how they see us as victims, and by golly they want China, Russia, Mexico, and the EU to start sucking up.

But why this definition applies more than others, IMO, is that I don't think Trump wants a mass citizen-military (might be wrong), and I don't hear a lot of talk about converting vendors of our defense contracts to State ownership.

And, yes, there's a sense of victimhood left and right--zeitgeist of Generation Y, I suppose--but it looks so much more pathetic on someone with a copy of Atlas Shrugged crammed into the back pocket of their Men's Wearhousre polyester pants

That's how Trump stands out, but the party still belongs to ALEC and Citizens for Prosperity. When the party was a part of...whoops! I almost fell into that old back-in-the-day trap myself!

Trent Lott and Reagan both linked up with some of these groups, and many Republicans openly praise the Oath Keepers and the Sovereign Citizen movements. And who knows what sort of black-hat squad the GOPpers are running through the Family?

Even that smacked of victimization! Victimization from the dull and lazy masses!  

...someone else can't spell it.  "Too funny" as you say.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!   Righties - BWAHAHAHAHA!