Politics and Religion

Why do you insist I'm a Trump supporter? I think it will be an extreme risk having him as POTUS.
LasVegan 620 reads
posted
1 / 28

So, Trump's campaign put out a communique that he believes "Obama was born in the U.S."

This morning he refuses to say "Obama was born in the U.S."

Seems as if his campaign is attempting to reach out to a different segment of voters.  He on the other hand, seems satisfied with those he has attracted already.

Could this be a, although vague,  sign he does not really want to win?

mattradd 40 Reviews 148 reads
posted
2 / 28

He and his staff want to have their cake and eat it to. for political reasons, and because, personally, Trump disdains the thought of ever having to admit he's wrong.

bigguy30 149 reads
posted
3 / 28

Trump built his whole campaign on white nationalism.
He started this birther lie to get attention and votes for his campaign.

It worked and the racists ate it up.
So why would he stop now and lose over ninety percent of his base?
This is not happening, but Trump will pay a price on election day!
Posted By: mattradd
He and his staff want to have their cake and eat it to. for political reasons, and because, personally, Trump disdains the thought of ever having to admit he's wrong.

LasVegan 146 reads
posted
4 / 28

So now he is beginning to "mildly" admit Obama was born in the U.S.  But what happens to all of his previous "very well documented" false claims?

Do his followers simply delete those from their memory banks?

Come on isn't there even some remote semblance of honesty/logic involved here?

bigguy30 145 reads
posted
5 / 28

So you are really drinking the Trump kool aid. Lol

You and the other Trump supporters will be in for a huge surprise on election day.
I can't wait until November 8th and your comment will be reposted after Hillary is our next President.

Just remember Trump is a coward and liars are always exposed in the end.
He can't win with just white people and Trump supporters.
Also the GOP will learn another hard lesson again for a third time!
 
Posted By: Dr.Beeper
I watched both Hillary and Trump this morning. Hilary bashed Trump for 20 minutes. Nothing else but Bashing Trump. It's old. She will need a little more than that to beat him. Trump like the media genius he is, had all eyes on general after general get on stage giving him their full endorsement. Even playing the deplorable card.  Trump also just pulled the birther card so it will be a dull issue at the debate.  
   
 Btw did we get a stat on her weight? I am saying 225.  
   
Posted By: LasVegan
So, Trump's campaign put out a communique that he believes "Obama was born in the U.S."  
     
  This morning he refuses to say "Obama was born in the U.S."  
     
  Seems as if his campaign is attempting to reach out to a different segment of voters.  He on the other hand, seems satisfied with those he has attracted already.  
     
  Could this be a, although vague,  sign he does not really want to win?

bigguy30 154 reads
posted
6 / 28

So your question cannot apply to a person like Trump.

Posted By: LasVegan
So now he is beginning to "mildly" admit Obama was born in the U.S.  But what happens to all of his previous "very well documented" false claims?  
   
 Do his followers simply delete those from their memory banks?  
   
 Come on isn't there even some remote semblance of honesty/logic involved here?

BuffetBoy 3 Reviews 175 reads
posted
7 / 28

Trump is a master manipulator and deceiver. He wants to be able to tell people he changed his stance on being a birther on his terms, not the media's. A bully hates to be bullied sort of thing. I think Mrs. Clinton and President Obama are making a mistake here. Now Trump can say he no longer believes Obama was born out of the country while simultaneously say HRC and the President arent talking about issues voters care about (jobs, healthcare, college, etc.) while he is.

Mrs. Clinton should forget Trump and be optimistic and lay out her plans for the nation each and every day. Let her subordinates and her superior air war trash Trump and she should remian above the fray. Everyone who gets into the dirt with Trump only gets dirty themselves. Be optimistic, hopeful, and a uniter and let Trump be the racist and divider. I feel she is making a mistake for now and needs to right the ship. The polling in Iowa, Colorado, Virginia and Michigan, along with Ohio and Florida, is terrifying and they need a quick course adjustment

mattradd 40 Reviews 161 reads
posted
8 / 28

When he talked about not losing any followers if he shot someone, he's right. This latest ploy is in hopes, bring back to him, those white Republicans who don't want to see themselves voting for a racist. It's this group that you need to ask the question about do they "simply delete those from their memory banks?"

LasVegan 141 reads
posted
9 / 28

Very well/articulately stated!

LasVegan 126 reads
posted
10 / 28

clock is correct, twice a day.  How can he so adeptly contradict this principle?

bigguy30 137 reads
posted
11 / 28

The press and media are fools for running with the garbage!

Posted By: LasVegan
clock is correct, twice a day.  How can he so adeptly contradict this principle?

bigguy30 129 reads
posted
12 / 28

If they don't have any proof.

They will make something up and their leader proved that today, with lying for five years about President Obama.
Posted By: Dr.Beeper
and rightfully so. Hillary and her pear shaped 225+ body is sinking.  
   
   
   
   
   
Posted By: bigguy30
So you are really drinking the Trump kool aid. Lol  
     
  You and the other Trump supporters will be in for a huge surprise on election day.  
  I can't wait until November 8th and your comment will be reposted after Hillary is our next President.  
     
  Just remember Trump is a coward and liars are always exposed in the end.  
  He can't win with just white people and Trump supporters.  
  Also the GOP will learn another hard lesson again for a third time!  
     
     
Posted By: Dr.Beeper
I watched both Hillary and Trump this morning. Hilary bashed Trump for 20 minutes. Nothing else but Bashing Trump. It's old. She will need a little more than that to beat him. Trump like the media genius he is, had all eyes on general after general get on stage giving him their full endorsement. Even playing the deplorable card.  Trump also just pulled the birther card so it will be a dull issue at the debate.    
       
   Btw did we get a stat on her weight? I am saying 225.    
       
   
Posted By: LasVegan
So, Trump's campaign put out a communique that he believes "Obama was born in the U.S."    
         
    This morning he refuses to say "Obama was born in the U.S."    
         
    Seems as if his campaign is attempting to reach out to a different segment of voters.  He on the other hand, seems satisfied with those he has attracted already.    
         
    Could this be a, although vague,  sign he does not really want to win?
-- Modified on 9/16/2016 1:30:28 PM

stucaboy 148 reads
posted
13 / 28
Makwa 18 Reviews 124 reads
posted
14 / 28

Trump is not smart enough to keep his mouth shut!

saltyballs 125 reads
posted
15 / 28

America needs to hear about his VAST knowledge on both foreign and domestic and military policy.

mattradd 40 Reviews 111 reads
posted
16 / 28

I think she should simply answer the moderator's questions using her vast understanding and experience in the issues, then let him fill the vacuum. Donald abhors a vacuum, and will fill it at all cost, even at the expense of saying something that makes he look unpresidential.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 127 reads
posted
17 / 28

There's an unusual amount of sound thinking and insight on this thread. Can't let that happen without me interjecting a bit of irrational nonsense! Lol

First of all, I have to agree with Matt that Trump can't bear to admit he was wrong. That's also a sort of Andrew Carnegie type rule for being successful in political and sales pursuits. This is amplified by the personality disorder that many say Trump displays. So it doesn't look very good when he has to retract anything.

Bigguy30 puts forth the view that this reversal will hurt him voter-wise, and if his cult base were not so completely smitten with him and so very, very unhappy with their lives, it might work that way. Though I don't think many of them are going to see the light and make a last-minute decision to vote for Clinton, it MIGHT deflate their enthusiasm enough that some of them will just stay home and drink beer on election night.

BuffetBoy sees Trump's gambit here, and his suggestion that Clinton keeps above the fray, stick to laying out her proposed policies both domestic and international seems very wise. The attack on Trump could be more effectively fought by Biden, Sanders, Bill Clinton and President Obama. In truth, a Trump coronation would be disastrous for our country, for the world, but when that is stated by his opponent directly, it seems less an urgent appeal to citizens to prevent such an atrocity and more a political rant.

As for me, I think Trump should have his nose rubbed in it. What if everyone just ignored Trump's retraction and continued to hammer the absurdity of the birthers and ridicule Trump for holding that position? Trump might be forced into a corner where he has to repeat louder and louder that he no longer believes that crap, maybe even admit that he never did actually believe it himself. This would reveal his whole game of appealing to the very worst aspects of human complexity.

I'm waiting for the birthers who frequent this board to rush in and explain to us how even if Obama was born in the United States, that it's still wrong for him to be president because he allowed the "appearance on impropriety" by being of Kenyan ancestry and as such it was "only natural" for them to question his eligibility.

JakeFromStateFarm 149 reads
posted
19 / 28

Because if you're ignorant enough, you just don't care.  No matter how many times is blatantly lies to you.

-- Modified on 9/16/2016 5:45:51 PM

Dr.Hackenbush 162 reads
posted
20 / 28

I missed your morning clip (no link) but the one I saw today where Trump said President Obama was born in the U.S. indicates Trump won this round.

Do Clinton supporters not remember that it was her supporters or campaign that started the whole birther movement? Yes, it was not her saying it directly but when she was given the opportunity on 60 Minutes to confirm Obama's not a Muslim she could not help but add, in classic Clinton-speak, "as far as I know".

She played this card far too soon if she should have played it at all, but that's the indication she's desperate. Trump defused it today. His supporters don't care that he "admitted it" but now it's difficult for Clinton to bring it up again

bigguy30 125 reads
posted
21 / 28

This is why Trump and his supporters can't be trusted.
So this was fact checked and proven a lie.
Just like everything that usual comes out of Trump mouth.

Posted By: Dr.Hackenbush
I missed your morning clip (no link) but the one I saw today where Trump said President Obama was born in the U.S. indicates Trump won this round.  
   
 Do Clinton supporters not remember that it was her supporters or campaign that started the whole birther movement? Yes, it was not her saying it directly but when she was given the opportunity on 60 Minutes to confirm Obama's not a Muslim she could not help but add, in classic Clinton-speak, "as far as I know".  
   
 She played this card far too soon if she should have played it at all, but that's the indication she's desperate. Trump defused it today. His supporters don't care that he "admitted it" but now it's difficult for Clinton to bring it up again.  
 

Dr.Hackenbush 138 reads
posted
22 / 28

I correctly stated it was NOT Clinton that made the statement. I evaluated the net result of where things are today. You are the epitome of wrong headed thinkers in that you accuse anyone that doesn't agree with you of being your enemy.  You have ZERO evidence I am a Trump supporter. I am quite the opposite, but I DO support the truth.

bigguy30 131 reads
posted
23 / 28

I provided the link and you can see for yourself.
It's clear what you are doing too.
This is the same type of bullshit Trump and his supporters do all the time.
 

Posted By: Dr.Hackenbush
I correctly stated it was NOT Clinton that made the statement. I evaluated the net result of where things are today. You are the epitome of wrong headed thinkers in that you accuse anyone that doesn't agree with you of being your enemy.  You have ZERO evidence I am a Trump supporter. I am quite the opposite, but I DO support the truth.

Dr.Hackenbush 140 reads
posted
24 / 28

My goal was clarity. I'm sorry you find what I said difficult or impossible to understand. Since I lack ability to make myself clear, would you please post the 2 contradictory things I said?

I am myself confused in not understanding how you won't accept my agreement with you regarding the fact there is absolutely no evidence Clinton herself ever called President Obama's birthplace into question. Trump certainly did so.

Clinton did though, in the 60 Minutes interview, leave the door open regarding President Obama being a Muslim. Watch the video I provided. The link is just 4 rows above.

-- Modified on 9/18/2016 3:08:11 AM

bigguy30 128 reads
posted
25 / 28

This is the typical response from Trump supporters but your earlier comment.
Plus some others in this area, already exposed you.
If anyone is confused is you.

Posted By: Dr.Hackenbush
My goal was clarity. I'm sorry you find what I said difficult or impossible to understand. Since I lack ability to make myself clear, would you please post the 2 contradictory things I said?  
   
 I am myself confused in not understanding how you won't accept my agreement with you regarding the fact there is absolutely no evidence Clinton herself ever called President Obama's birthplace into question. Trump certainly did so.  
   
 Clinton did though, in the 60 Minutes interview, leave the door open regarding President Obama being a Muslim. Watch the video I provided. The link is just 4 rows above.  

-- Modified on 9/18/2016 3:08:11 AM

Dr.Hackenbush 143 reads
posted
26 / 28

I do admit to confusion after reading your response. If you can't answer my questions, that's OK.

-- Modified on 9/18/2016 5:56:51 PM

bigguy30 126 reads
posted
27 / 28

The comments you post confirm everything and using a Allen West blog is more confirmation.
You are not fooling anyone on here.

Posted By: Dr.Hackenbush
I do admit to confusion after reading your response. If you can't answer my questions, that's OK.

-- Modified on 9/18/2016 5:56:51 PM

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