No wonder so many congressmen and senators don't take responsibly for voting for the Patriot Act and ACA, since they probably didn't read them. They just let the political bosses; Boehner, Cantor, Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, McConnell, and others, round them up and herd them toward or away from each law being proposed. 
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“We have to pass the (health care) bill so you can find out what is in it”. which seems to apply to ALL bills and not just the healt care bill.
The other day someone commented to me that "bills" get written by congressmen and senators.... Wha???! this day and age, it is more likely that staffers, lobbiests and special interest groups write more of our legislation than our esteemed members of congress.
Heck, most of them don't seem even as articulate of those on T
I have no delusions that any of our present "leaders" and I use that term very, very loosely, are going to do a damn thing to do anything but keep themselves in power. As far as I am concerned the less they do, the less they can fuck things up. The Patriot Act, ObamaCare, doing nothing would have been thousand times better than what we got, and I have a very strong feeling that this latest amnesty bill is simply more of the same.
"Feel good legislation" is just like getting really, really fucked up, you feel great for a while, and then reality comes crashing back down around you, and your only options are to do more drugs or suffer through the reality that is worse than before you got high.
Most laws are written by Congressional staffers and lobbyists these days.
One of the most famous instances of this was when (then) Senator Phil Gramm snuck a provision into the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (better known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999), that gutted Glass–Steagall Act of 1933, allowing investment banks to merge with commercial banks.
The result? The financial collapse that destroyed the world's economy.
Oh, by the way, Phil Gramm exited politics to go work for UBS Bank. He got back into politics in 2008, to advice McCain on economic matters while he was seeking the Presidency. That's when Phil Gramm called Americans who were worried about the total collapse of the economy that he had personally caused "economic whiners".
And people say that terrorists are assholes.
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and a terrorist.
What country do you live in? We haven't had leadership since Bill Clinton left office.
Calling these idiots leaders is a fucking shame.
but you could hardly call him anymore a leader than the two guys that have followed him. Clinton was famous for looking at the polls first and coming out with his "opinion" second.
Don't get me wrong, I think Clinton was a very passable POTUS, not great by any means, but a hell of a lot better than either of the guys that followed him, That said, I think you have to go all the way back to Reagan to find a POTUS that really qualifies as a leader.
I will agree that what we have today, certainly doesn't qualify as leadership, and that goes for both sides of the aisle.
In 2012, Newsweek magazine asked a panel of historians to rank the ten best presidents since 1900. The results showed that historians had ranked Franklin D. Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama as the best since that year.[19]
Scholar survey results[edit]
You don't know it all but pretend to!!!
How are those remedial reading classes working out for you? Not very well apparently.
Or are you just trying to get a jump on this month's SPOTM award? If so, you are off to a great start.
The list of Presidents and their average percentage ratings are:
Rank
President
Percent
1.
George Washington
96.14%
2.
James Monroe
90.55%
3.
Franklin Roosevelt
88.32%
4.
Dwight Eisenhower
84.65%
5.
Ulysses S. Grant
75.40%
6.
Bill Clinton
69.65%
7.
8.
Woodrow Wilson
Barack Hussein Obama
67.04%
65.03%
9.
Thomas Jefferson
64.71%
10.
Richard Nixon
64.46%
11.
Abraham Lincoln (75.0%)*
64.18%
12.
James Madison
64.02%
13.
Ronald Reagan (94.23%)**
63.44%
14.
William McKinley
62.97%
15.
Andrew Jackson
60.72%
16.
Grover Cleveland
58.50%
17.
George W. Bush
49.43%
One Term Presidents
18.
Lyndon Johnson
90.33%
19.
Franklin Pierce
85.81%
20.
William H. Harrison
79.59%
21.
Warren Harding
76.08%
22.
Calvin Coolidge
71.94%
23.
Theodore Roosevelt
70.59%
24.
William Howard Taft
66.46%
25.
James Polk
61.82%
26.
James Buchanan
58.78%
27.
James Garfield
57.99%
28.
Martin Van Buren
57.82%
29.
Harry S. Truman
57.06%
30.
John F. Kennedy
56.42%
31.
Zachary Taylor
56.21%
32.
Jimmy Carter
55.2%
33.
George H. W. Bush
Albert J. Gore, Jr. (never took office)
55.14%
54.09%
34.
John Adams
51.45%
Samuel J. Tilden (never took office) 50.90 %
35.
Rutherford B. Hayes
49.05%
36.
Herbert Hoover
48.06%
37.
Benjamin Harrison
45.37%
38.
John Q. Adams
15.79%
Never Elected Presidents
39.
Gerald Ford
44.6%, H
40.
John Tyler
H,S,G,VP
41.
Andrew Johnson
H,S,G,VP
42.
Millard Fillmore
H,VP
43.
Chester A. Arthur
V
Bill Clinton would be served his 6th term and we'd be loving it. (and so would he!)
He most likely would have done a lot better job than either of the two that succeeded him. Of course it would have been hard to do much worse.
MAKE ALL BILLS PASSED BY THE CONGRESS APPLY TO THEM AS WELL...
Personally I do not understand why any bill passed by the government can be government can exempt them from it. It seems like a real clear case of EQUAL PROTECTION and I wish the Supremes would address it.
How dot outthink we got here?
Eventually, everything runs its course and people get tired and they rebel for change. History proves it.