Politics and Religion

Well that's the reason I say we need the "looney libs"
bigguy30 1398 reads
posted
1 / 16

So after Trump this is the GOP second choice for the general election?
I wonder if they really want to win or just force their views on the rest of us.

GaGambler 391 reads
posted
2 / 16

but how many Americans would support a practicing Muslim for POTUS?  

I certainly would not.

bigguy30 401 reads
posted
3 / 16

Posted By: GaGambler
but how many Americans would support a practicing Muslim for POTUS?  
   
 I certainly would not.

dncphil 16 Reviews 425 reads
posted
4 / 16

Christians may do annoying things like knock on your door to try and convert you, and try to encourage laws that comport with their believes.  But who doesn't do the second

On the other hands, they don't cut people's heads of by the dozens, burn people alive in cages, bomb subways, cafes, churches, mosques, subject women to sexual slavery, fly planes into buildings, bomb Madrid or London, shoot up Paris, destroy world heritage sites, hijack cruise ships and kill passengers, shoot up the Olympic Games, amputate people's hands for stealing, stone people to death whip people with 1,000 lashes.

Likewise, there may be 40 Christians in the U.S. in the Nut Case Church (forgot his name), that are assholes at funerals, but that doesn't rank with the huge percet of Moslem polled in France that support the Charlie Hebdod shooting, the thousands of Moslems who named their kid after Ossama.

This is just the start.  And you don't like one much more than the other.

GaGambler 453 reads
posted
5 / 16

I have not only voted for Christians, but I have voted for downright "thumpers"

 In "theory" I don't like Christians any more than I like Muslims, but in practice I can co exist with Christians, living under Sharia law would have one of two endings, me killing them or them killing me. I really don't see any middle ground.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 398 reads
posted
6 / 16

...co-exist with Christians but can't live under Sharia law.  But what would happen if you had to live under Christian law - no drinking, no gambling, no whoring?  Wouldn't that have the same ending as Sharia law - you killing them or them killing you?

dncphil 16 Reviews 349 reads
posted
7 / 16

There is no place where Christians impose their law like Muslims do now.  Nor has there been for about 800 years.  Yes, we can imagine "what if......"  

But the reality is.....

Maybe there are some blue laws, but no escorts have been stoned to death in Christian country for about 2000 years.  Christians are not kidnapping Muslim girls for sex slaves.  

When drinking was illegal (and where it is restricted) there are no religious leaders walking the streets with whips.

The list goes on and on in comparison

Finally, there are also secular reasons to limit or prohibit your list.  
Posted By: BigPapasan
...co-exist with Christians but can't live under Sharia law.  But what would happen if you had to live under Christian law - no drinking, no gambling, no whoring?  Wouldn't that have the same ending as Sharia law - you killing them or them killing you?

GaGambler 365 reads
posted
8 / 16

Without you looney liberals this country would lean further right and the Kim Davis' of the country would be much more likely to be ramming their religion down our throats.

I don't want the libs in charge, but I do believe you are necessary to keep the religious zealots in this country in check.  

On balance though, the Christians are easier to co exist with than the Muslims. It might not be out of choice, as I have no delusions that many Christians would love to have this country run by the "Law of God", but that is not the mainstream in this country. When I look at life in such shitholes as Iran, Saudi Arabia or Yemen, I have to say co existing with Christians is 1,000 times more preferable.  

Oh to answer your question, "IF" the Christians were to take over and tried to force me to live under the Christian version of Sharia law, YES I would fight them to my dying breath as well. Fortunately, that kind of extreme seems quite unlikely in the good old US of A.

It's funny the left only seems to have the "courage" to stand up to Christianity and the right only has the "desire" to stand up to Islam, surely there are people out there that see the danger of both, or can't we agree that fruitcakes willing to kill or die over a fairy tale are the biggest danger we face, regardless of which fairy tale they believe in?

GiantBombing 381 reads
posted
9 / 16

Countries that currently perform executions, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_country :

Botswana
Chad
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Ethiopia
The Gambia
Libya
Nigeria
Somalia
South Sudan
Sudan
United States
St. Kitts & Nevis
Afghanistan
Bahrain
Bangladesh
China
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Japan
Jordan
Kuwait
Malaysia
North Korea
Oman
Pakistan
Palestine
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Syria
Taiwan
Thailand
United Arab Emirates
Vietnam
Yemen
Belarus

Aside from Japan and a very small few others, that's hardly the greatest list for the USA to appear on, especially when a lot of those countries are ones that at one time or another the US has dropped far too many bombs on in an effort to 'spread democracy'.

Any time you can be on the same list as Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Pakistan, Syria, Kuwait snd North goddamn Korea, you're doing something fucking wrong.

GaGambler 350 reads
posted
10 / 16

but I will concede I believe the standard for issuing the death penalty should be beyond a "shadow" of a doubt and not just "reasonable" doubt. It's not like you can "unkill" someone if it turns out later that he didn't do it.

dncphil 16 Reviews 356 reads
posted
11 / 16

Your screeds are too numerous to respond to in detail, but I will respond here because I am a criminal defense atty and have some knowledge.

It may be true that a few "innocencents" have been executed, but if you mean factually innocent in the sense of they didn't do it, it is very rare.

In fact, it is much more common for a guilty person to be released and kill other innocents after, which would not have happened if he were dead.  I have had at least six cases where murderers killed after being released.

The solitary confinement has nothing to do with religion.  THese are people who if you give them oat meal and a newspaper can make six lethal weapons.  If you give them a bag of Hershey Kisses they can make a knife.  THey are so dangerous that in your liberal world you can't believe what they will do if around other people.  

WHy you think "super Christians" support this is a mystery.  CA has thousands of people in solitary.  Do you realy think that CA is goverened by super Christians."  
Posted By: Laffy
of how "Christians" aren't as pure as you're trying to claim.  
   
 The biggest supporters of the death penalty, by far, are the "super Christians."  
   
 What makes that beyond ironic is that many innocent people have been executed.....yet these people don't care.  
   
 Right now another guy is about to be executed that is probably not guilty.  You'd think the "LIFE IS PRECIOUS/SACRED" crowd would err on the side of caution if there was ANY doubt.  You'd think they, more than anyone else, would be demanding it be banned if even ONE innocent person has been put to death by mistake.  
   
 Heck, we even execute people that are mentally ill and people that did crimes as kids.  That's just barbaric.  
   
 And now, we throw more and more people into solitary confinement, which is also barbaric.  
   
 And, again, the biggest supporters of this are the "super Christians."

GaGambler 364 reads
posted
12 / 16

I think it's unlikely because there is such a push back from the (mainly leftie) American people on the subject.

and it's just one more reason I don't want either the left or the right in complete power.  

I have seen these "Good Christians" and just how tolerant they are when in mobs, and I have no doubt at all how they would love to turn this country into a truly "Christian Nation", but as long as the majority, or at least a very vocal and motivated minority stand up to them, the chances of us ever having to live under the Christian version of Sharia law are slim. That doesn't mean we should relax and let the nut jobs run rough shod over "OUR" rights, just that this is a battle we seem to be winning.

And lastly, yes I will begrudgingly give Maher credit for pushing the left to stand up to the Muslim nut jobs as fervently as he urges them to stand up to the Christians. I still can't stand him, but I guess I have to give him credit for that much, especially since he's one of the few that seems to want to offer any pushback on ALL religions that threaten to end life as we know it.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 332 reads
posted
13 / 16

...as they say: "Those who can - do; those who can't - teach."  The corollary to that in the legal profession is: "Those who can - go into private practice; those who can't - suck off the gubmint tit as D.A.s or P.D.s...I believe phil says he is a P.D.  I rest my (very expensive brief) case.

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BigPapasan 3 Reviews 376 reads
posted
14 / 16

"...no place where Christians impose their law like Muslims do now?  Nor has there been for about 800 years."

You better take a break from your "lawyering" and CLE courses and find out who Warren Jeffs is.  
The FLDS Church imposes their version of Sharia law right here in the good ol' U.S. of A.  The law of the Church rules American cities such as Hildale, Utah and Colorado City, AZ.  Your impotent D.A.s have put Jeffs in prison but he is still running the Church.

Tonight on CNN, there's a show about Jeffs and the FLDS Church.  It's part of the series "This is Life with Lisa Ling."  If you watch it, I'll give you Continuing TER Education credit.  Lord knows you need it.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 398 reads
posted
15 / 16

...much as they oppose abortion.  Pope Francis, for example.  Or Bill O'Reilly, at the other end of the spectrum.  If you believe life is sacred, you can have no other view.  The Christians who justify the death penalty by saying the unborn are "innocent" while murderers have "forfeited" their lives can hardly be called "super."

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 345 reads
posted
16 / 16

...must be so miserable in your "job" as a criminal defense attorney.  How can you give your best efforts if you are so jaded and think your clients are guilty?  Assuming, arguendo, that you are an attorney, why don't you go to work for the District Attorney instead of the Public Defender?  You already talk like a D.A.

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