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When it hits the fan, how will Big Brother react?
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The US press has taken pains to ignore the social, economic collapse currently underway throughout much of Europe, and America.  Nearly total silence-or, in the immortal words of Mr. Waldo Weatherbee, "I'm not seeing this!"

Last week, in Madrid, Barcelona, hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets to protest, demanding change in the formation of a new government,and mass resignation of the currently incumbent banditos.

How did the Spanish Powers That Be react to the demands of their people in the streets?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzP8znpQI9I&feature=player_embedded

For their transgression of complaining about the high rate of unemployment (50% in ages 25-40),and the massive theft of their savings and pensions in the form of inflation and higher taxes the Spanish government reacted by firing upon them indiscriminately, and with police beatings.

It won't be that long before the same thing happens here.  Regardless of which of the 2 globalist puppets gets elected a month from now, the conditions in America are ripe for the same thing to happen.  Our government has been preparing for massive "civil unrest" for a long time; they have quietly been building the logistics and mechanical infrastructure of a modern police state since Clinton took office.  The programs started with Clinton, were expanded by Bush, and have been exponentially increased under Obama.  We now have  FEMA mass detention centers, codified approval of the total suspension of the Constitution and Bill of Rights through the Patriot Act, NDAA and many other bits of similar legislation, as well as the building and funding of the most sinister sounding "Re-education Centers" to be managed by DHS.  Not to mention the government's purchase of 1.6 Billion rounds of hollow-point and sniper ammunition within the past 2 years.

The Spaniards have not yet seen a mere fraction of their government's capabilities to harm them.  Neither have Americans.

Government enforcement will stop at nothing to retain their power and control.  If you think that American troops or police would not fire upon crowds of Americans, think again.  Of course they will shoot Americans, and if you're caught in the middle of it, that's going to be your tough shit.  

The US government has defined its enemies in various publications and white papers as Occupy and Tea Party activists, returning veterans, gun owners, and those pesky, domestic terroristic thought criminals who think that the US Constitution is still the law of the land.  

100 million Americans are now hanging onto the government tit with no other means of support.  When  their benefits are reduced by the government, and when inflationary pressure causes what little money they do have to buy less and less essential goods, there will be a breakdown of American society, especially in the larger cities.

The government has prepared for it.  Are you ready?

                                       AMERICAN HOLODOMOR

Why didn't the founding fathers stand up to the British Empire ?

They fled to the New World, they didn't stand their ground.

twenty to 05:00 the bread man better get crackin'

mrnogood211 reads

and I've prepared myself mentally, physically, and spiritually to look at these coming changes, as freedom..This system is broken, the BEST thing that can happen is it collapses.. The problem when this happens wont be me, I'm going to revert back to living off the land with my loved ones..

When this breakdown happens, it will be the people who are not ready to let this way of living just collapse that will be the problem..

We ALL have the choice to look at the coming hard times in a positive light, if we know how.. This isn't the end, it is the beginning of TOTAL freedom, and independence FROM the system..or, hold on to the system, and continue needing it, and we will ALL find ourselves living under total welfare/police state

Posted By: sappybullfighter

The US press has taken pains to ignore the social, economic collapse currently underway throughout much of Europe, and America.  Nearly total silence-or, in the immortal words of Mr. Waldo Weatherbee, "I'm not seeing this!"

Last week, in Madrid, Barcelona, hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets to protest, demanding change in the formation of a new government,and mass resignation of the currently incumbent banditos.

How did the Spanish Powers That Be react to the demands of their people in the streets?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzP8znpQI9I&feature=player_embedded

For their transgression of complaining about the high rate of unemployment (50% in ages 25-40),and the massive theft of their savings and pensions in the form of inflation and higher taxes the Spanish government reacted by firing upon them indiscriminately, and with police beatings.

It won't be that long before the same thing happens here.  Regardless of which of the 2 globalist puppets gets elected a month from now, the conditions in America are ripe for the same thing to happen.  Our government has been preparing for massive "civil unrest" for a long time; they have quietly been building the logistics and mechanical infrastructure of a modern police state since Clinton took office.  The programs started with Clinton, were expanded by Bush, and have been exponentially increased under Obama.  We now have  FEMA mass detention centers, codified approval of the total suspension of the Constitution and Bill of Rights through the Patriot Act, NDAA and many other bits of similar legislation, as well as the building and funding of the most sinister sounding "Re-education Centers" to be managed by DHS.  Not to mention the government's purchase of 1.6 Billion rounds of hollow-point and sniper ammunition within the past 2 years.

The Spaniards have not yet seen a mere fraction of their government's capabilities to harm them.  Neither have Americans.

Government enforcement will stop at nothing to retain their power and control.  If you think that American troops or police would not fire upon crowds of Americans, think again.  Of course they will shoot Americans, and if you're caught in the middle of it, that's going to be your tough shit.  

The US government has defined its enemies in various publications and white papers as Occupy and Tea Party activists, returning veterans, gun owners, and those pesky, domestic terroristic thought criminals who think that the US Constitution is still the law of the land.  

100 million Americans are now hanging onto the government tit with no other means of support.  When  their benefits are reduced by the government, and when inflationary pressure causes what little money they do have to buy less and less essential goods, there will be a breakdown of American society, especially in the larger cities.

The government has prepared for it.  Are you ready?

                                       AMERICAN HOLODOMOR

Did we talk earlier today?

it's not easy rider, and you can't live in a zypher.

mrnogood154 reads

patriotism is JUST LIKE religion..

That post wouldn't have made a lick of sense then. ;)

Do bakery delivery route drivers work for per diem?

mrnogood135 reads

Posted By: bigvern
That post wouldn't have made a lick of sense then. ;)

Do bakery delivery route drivers work for per diem?

-- Modified on 10/10/2012 10:19:59 AM

Mein, who told you we had FEMA detention centers? Glenn Beck? Alex Jones? Where are they? Why hasn't anyone ever seen a picture of them? If these FEMA concentration camps are springing up faster than a pimple on a prom date, then where the fuck are they?

I've hear that too but I don't remember what pundit said it.  I don't personally believe it, but I am a little concerned about all those bullets the government bought.

And I do believe that if our government doesn't begin to start representing "all" the people and not just the libs or conservs depending on who is in power, then I believe we will move closer to the day when both sides finally say enough is enough and we reinvent the civil war for different reasons.


Focus, willy!  Focus!  Glenn Beck actually came out to say there were no such things as FEMA camps.  You don't think they would actually let something like that out on TV, do  you?

Where are they?  Do you remember the surfeit of military base cloosings that happened a few years back?  Try looking at those.  Also, some of the government's own documents provide some clues about this, for example,

1.  http://static.infowars.com/2011/12/i/general/kbr-doc.pdf

A document originating from Halliburton subsidiary KBR that provides details on a push to outfit FEMA and U.S. Army camps around the United States. Entitled “Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements,” the document describes services KBR is looking to farm out to subcontractors.

In 2006, KBR was awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security, allegedly to support its Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency, Market Watch reported.  The contract was effective immediately and provided for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs, The contract also provides migrant detention support to other government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster.

2.  http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf&ei=9pTeTsaBL66ksQKL8KzgBg&usg=AFQjCNHB5ODc2cPm5lgYqdZamUPyDwsbSg&sig2=m_zmxZgQwWw39X2Ww5O2xQ' target=_blank class=green>http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf&ei=9pTeTsaBL66ksQKL8KzgBg&usg=AFQjCNHB5ODc2cPm5lgYqdZamUPyDwsbSg&sig2=m_zmxZgQwWw39X2Ww5O2xQ

Shortly after the KBR contract went into effect,  the existence of the "Civilian Inmate Labor Program" surfaced.  The above is a pdf copy of the Army regulation #210-35, which  describes the program in more detail.  The regulation, first drafted in 1997, underwent a “rapid act revision” in January 2005 and now provides a policy for the creation of labor programs and prison camps on Army installations.  The program has many of the same trappings as the Nazi sllave llabor camps located in proximity with concentration camps during WW2 and Soviet gulags.

3.  http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

The National Emergency Centers Act or HR 645 was introduced in Congress in 2009. It mandates the establishment of “national emergency centers” to be located on military installations for the purpose of providing “temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster,” according to the bill.

In addition to emergencies, the legislation is designed to “meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security,” an open ended mandate which could mean the forced detention of American citizens in the event of widespread rioting after a national emergency or total economic collapse.

4.  http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/3000-3999/CIM_3010_14.pdf&ei=iKDeTveVKK_KsQLE8b3fBg&usg=AFQjCNGpPPCcWLk2GDbUq5NuByKI2ge4UA&sig2=68f_4BZMoh03XhqoFHrAcQ' target=_blank class=green>http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDcQFjAD&url=http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/3000-3999/CIM_3010_14.pdf&ei=iKDeTveVKK_KsQLE8b3fBg&usg=AFQjCNGpPPCcWLk2GDbUq5NuByKI2ge4UA&sig2=68f_4BZMoh03XhqoFHrAcQ

"Operation Garden Plot."  An operational plan to use the Army, USAF, Navy, and Marine Corp. in direct support of civil disturbance control operations.  

The government has patiently put into place the crucial elements of its police state grid and overarching plan for the internment of political enemies.  Trendy urban dandies such as yourself tend to think that you're isolated and above the fray in the event of a widespread breakdown.  I suggest you invest some time in reading what these documents have to say.  If prior history is any guide, it is middle-level schlumps like you that eventually end-up losing their head half the way through a major spaz-out.  

Food for thought, willy

Alabama:
       Opelika WWII German/Italian POW camp now being renovated.
   Alaska:
       Wilds of Alaska possibly East of Anchorage.
       No access by road however, there is a railway system.
       Facility holds 500,000 people.
   Arizona:
       Ft. Huachua, 20 miles from the Mexican border, 30 miles from Nogales. Rex 84 program. Emergency Custodial Facility.
       Florence WWII German/Italian POW camp now being renovated.
       Pinal County Gila River. Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.
       Yuma County Colorado River. Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.
   Arkansas:
       Ft. Chaffee Has a new runway for aircraft, new detention camp facilities with cap of 20,000 prisoners.
    Blythville AFB This base was closed but is now being used as a camp location. New wooden barracks have been constructed at this location. This camp is surrounded by high wire topped with barbed wire, and has guard towers.
       Berryville FEMA facility located east of Eureaka on Hwy 62.
     
   California:
       Oakdale Ca 90 miles East of San Francisco on HWY 120. Holds a minimum of 15,000 people. REX 84 program, Emergence Custodial Facility.
       Vandenberg AFB Located midway between San Louis Obispo, and Santa Barbara. The base is on Hwy 1 and close to Hwy 101. REX 84 program, Emergency Custodial Facility.
       Ft. Irwin Irwin is a remote Mtn region south of Death Valley, National Monument. This base is designated as inactive however, there is a concentration camp located at this facility about 30 miles from Interstate 15 in Barstow.
       Inyo County Manzana. Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention center.
       Modoc County Tulelake. Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.
       Sacramento Army Depot No specific data at this time.
   Colorado:
       Old Lowell AFB. Recently all new chain link fence was installed around the borders, plus 400,000 handcuffs and shackles were purchased by the government for this site.
   Florida:
       Avon Park No data available
       Camp Krome Located near Miami Dept of Justice detention and interrogation facility.
       Elgin AFB This base is greater than 50 miles long extending from Pensacola Bay to Hwy 331 in De Funiak Springs. It is adjacent to Interstate 10 on the North and the Fort Walton Beach vacation spot.
       REX 84 program, Emergency Custodial Facility.
   Georgia:
       Ft. Benning Located East of Columbia near the Georgia/Alabama state line. – REX 84 program – Emergency Custodial Facility.
       Unadilla, Ga Macon County; Located on east railroad street, Plunket road leads into the facility 1 1/2 miles from Unadilla on county road 230. This is a FEMA prison manned and staffed but no prisoners.
       Oglethorpe, Ga. Macon County; facility is located five miles from Montezuma, three miles from Oglethorp. Traveling south on highway 49, located on the west side of the highway. This FEMA prison has no staff and no prisoners.
       Morgan, Ga. Calhoun County; I-75 exit 32 to 300 south to Albany. Take highway 234 to Morgan. Go through Morgan taking highway 45 south. The FEMA facility is 1 1/2 miles on the right (west) side of highway 45. This FEMA facility is fully manned and staffed but no prisoners.
       Camilla, Ga. Mitchell County; from Camilla take highway 19 south, travel 5.4 miles from 37/19 junction to Mount Zion Road, turn left (east) on Mount Zion Road. The FEMA facility is located on Mount Zion Road aprox: 5.7 miles south of Camilla. This facility is not manned or staffed and there are no prisoners.
       Hawkinsville, Ga Pulaski County; located on fire road 100/ Upper River Road, 2 miles west from alternate 129 North 257 / 112 east. Five miles east of Hawkensville. This FEMA facility is fully manned and staffed but no prisoners.
       Abbeyville, Ga. Wilcox County: south side of Abbeyvilleon highway 129 (Broad Street) off highway 280 (Main Street). This FEMA facility is fully manned and staffed but no prisoners.
       McRae, Ga. Telfair County; 1.5 miles west of McRae on highway 134 (8th street). The FEMA facility is on Irwinton Ave. off 8th street. This facility is fully manned and staffed but no prisoners.
       Frequencies: 153.7400 Georgia State Correctional Institutions 154.9050 Intrastate Coordinating (car to car state wide) 154.9350 Intrastate Coordinating (base to base / state wide) 155.3700 Georgia Police Intersystem (State wide)


   Idaho:
       Jerome County – Minipoka – Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility.
       Kooski plus 50 miles East. Near Lolo pass
       Moose Creek Unmanned and there is a near by landing strip in or near a national forest.
   Illinois:
       Marseilles It is located on the Illinois river off Interstate 80 on Hwy 6. It is a relatively small facility with a cap of 1400 prisoners.
       Though it is small it is designed like other concentration camp facilities with high fences topped with barbed wire and guard towers.
   Indiana:
       Thousands of acres located just out of Indianapolis, Indiana holds a large Concentration camp facility complete with barracks, high fence, razor wire, towers, turnstyles, a railroad, helicopter landing pads, and what appears to be three large furnaces with 3inch mains on one of the buildings. This is a massive facility, still under construction with a completion date sometime in 1996.
       Ft. Benjamin Harrison A U.S. Army facility located on the outskirts of Indianapolis will be used to hold prisoners.
       Ft. Wayne FEMA Detention facility
       Terre Haute FEMA Detention facility
   Kansas:
       Leavenworth U.S. Marshal’s Fed Holding Facility PFP.
       Concordia WWII POW German/Italian POW camp being renovated.
       El Dorado Federal prison.
       Topeka 80 acres converted to a holding camp.
   Kentucky:
       Louisville FEMA Detention facility
       Lexington FEMA Detention facility
   Louisiana:
       Livingston WWII German/Italian POW camp being renovated.
   Maine:
       Houlton WWII German/Italian POW camp being renovated.
   Missouri:
       Richards Gebaur AFB This facility is located in Grandview, A large civilian internment facility has been built on this facility, and base personnel are restricted from the area.
   Michigan:
       Kincheloe Correctional Facility (Formerly Kincheloe AFB with B-52 sized runways). Has five large prison buildings able to house 5000+. The facility has about 500 prisoners at this time. Location: 20 miles south of Sault Ste. Marie (Soo Locks) at the eastern end of the Upper Penninsula of Michigan.
       K.I. Sawyer AFB Large construction program has been going on under the name of “Operation Gateway”. High security is in place with a large portion of the base closed to civilian view. Location: 20 miles south of Marquette, MI in the Upper Penninsula of Michigan.
       Raco Field Raco field is an interesting facility. The above ground runways form a perfect triangle. Few buildings appear on the surface, but ventilators can be seen. Civilian workers report that a subsurface facility exists. No publicity exists indicating what the role of Raco Field is, although something is there. To observers, it is an “inactive WWII base.” Location: 15 miles NW of Kincheloe Correctional Facility on Hwy 28.
       Bark River A large construction operation is ongoing in the Bark River, MI, area. Locals are tight-lipped. The facility is off the main highway in a wilderness area. While most of the locals say that the construction is associated with the ELF (extreme low frequency) project of world-wide communications, others suspect FEMA is involved. (Note: the ELF grid is located 100 miles NE of the Bark River area) Location: 20 miles west of Escanaba in the upper penninsula of Michigan.
       Bay City Sits on Saginaw Bay which connects to Lake Huron. This facility has high fencing, barbed wire and guard towers.
       Grayling Camp Grayling Michigan National Guard Base. Detention facility. Guards towers, razor wire.
       Southwest area of the state FEMA Detention facility
       Central part of the state FEMA Detention facility
       Detroit FEMA Detention facility
   Mississippi:
       Hancock County – The NASA facility at this location has two camps the first being located at the end of Kiln road at Waveland, and then the next road after ammo road at the Post Office.
       The second camp is located in the center of a rest station back from the Interstate.
       Inmates from the Hancock County jail claim they have worked details involving the delivery of food to these camps under the supervision of U.N. Guards.
   Nebraska:
       Scottsbluff WWII German/Italian POW camp being renovated.
       Northwest corner of state FEMA Detention facility
       Northeast corner of state FEMA Detention facility
       South Central Hastings area FEMA Detention facility


   Nevada:
       Elco There is a prison facility 10 miles out of Elco.
       Wells Camp is located in the O’Niel basin area, 40 miles North of Wells, and West off Hwy 93, 25 miles.
       Winnemucca Camp is located at the I-80 mile marker 112, on the south side of the road and 3/4 miles off of the road.
       Wells/Winnemucca Camp is located near the base line of the mountains. Reno Nevada plus 150 miles east south side of road if your headed west, 150 yards off the road.
   New Jersey:
       Ft. Dix Fully operational prison camp with approximately 35,000 prisoners.
   New York:
       Ft. Drum located in upstate New York, probable location for Eastern area processing of people, located near the St. Lawrence river and access to Lake Ontario. Both waterways may be used for transport. Located very close to Canada.
       Watertown FEMA Detention facility
       Albany FEMA Detention facility
       Buffalo FEMA Detention facility
   Ohio:
       Cleveland FEMA Detention facility
       Columbus FEMA Detention facility
       Cincinnati FEMA Detention facility
       Lima FEMA Detention facility
   Oklahoma:
       Oklahoma City Tinker AFB, This is a civilian detention facility, all base personnel are prohibited from going near the area, and the area is under constant guard.
       McAlester WWII German/Italian POW camp being renovated.
       Will Rogers Air Port This is a newly constructed FEMA facility, and it is believed that it will be used as a primary processing center for prisoners West of the Mississippi River.
   Pennsylvania:
       Camp Hill Camp Hill Pa located off I-15. Sits across the navigable Susquehanna River from Harrisburg. Close to Cumberland Army Depot and the Camp Hill Correctional facility.
       Crossville WWII German/Italian POW Camp being renovated.
   Texas:
       Ft.Hood Ft. Hood has a newly built concentration camp, constructed complete with towers, high fencing, and barbed wire.
       Mexia WWII German/ Italian POW camp being renovated.
       Amarillo FEMA Detention facility
   Utah:
       Millard County – Central Utah – Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facility. Skull Valley Camp William property – west of the old bombing range South/southwestern portion of Camp Williams This camp was discovered by a man and his son who were rabbit hunting, they were discovered and apprehended.
       Utah Lake 15 miles south of Saratoga Recreation center 200 – 300 yards off the road Black wire 40 to 50 feet tall, made to look something like a golf driving range.
       Cedar City East of Cedar City Utah – no more data.

   
   Washington:
       Okanogan County borders Canada and is a site for a massive concentration camp capable of holding hundreds of thousands of people.
   Wisconsin:
       Ft. McCoy Located in Western Wisconsin 30 miles East of LaCrosse between the point where 90 and 94 intersect. REX 84 program, Emergency Custodial Facility.
       Central part of the state FEMA Detention facility.
   Wyoming:
       Park County – Hart Mountain – Renovated WWII Japanese-American special internment detention facilities. North Central part of the state FEMA Detention facility
       Southeast part of the state FEMA Detention facility
       Southwest part of the state FEMA Detention facility
       East Yellowstone – Manned facility. Investigators were apprehended by European soldiers, unable to identify the language used by the foreign soldiers, American government helped clear the situation.

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