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Why the left embraces gun control. (warning: long post ahead)
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I gotta say that for a progressive such as myself, who just so happens to be pro-gun, it is strange experience.

Often progressives, particularly in the media will make fun of conservatives because we can clearly see how conservative media sources use scare tactics to rile up their base. But I've been discovering, particularly on the gun issue, how progressive media does the same thing with their own base.

So instead of demonizing the other side, how about we try to understand one another better?

Years ago I was struck by a study I saw that demonstrated that kids that go to college and live together in dorms, have less emotional maturity than those who go straight to the job market after high school. Education itself played little into this. It seemed that the environment of college students weren't all that different than high school. And socialization among a large group of people of the same age had the effect of retarding maturity.

Human beings have used this for our own advantage in the domestication of animals. For instance, a kitten will meow as a call from it's mother to help the kitten. A feral adult cat generally won't meow. A domesticated adult cat will. It seems that taking care of the cat, just as a mother cat taking care of it's kitten, retards the emotional maturity of the cat, and the cat ends up seeing you as it's mother. Similar behavior has been observed in dogs, and recently in Russian experiments to domesticate silver foxes.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/03/taming-wild-animals/ratliff-text/1

Human beings evolved in the wild. It took us some 90,000 years to develop agriculture and civilization. We spent most of that time living on the land in small groups. The closest equivalent we have to that in modern America is rural living. Many of the advantages of modern living in cities (public transportation, central heating and air conditioning, stores to buy the things you need like clothing, food, etc) are far more sparse living in rural America. Many farmers don't have a trash service, they burn their own trash. You don't take the bus, you drive your own truck, and when it brakes down, you fix it.

In other words, rural living demands that one must learn to be more self-reliant. And this has the effect of accelerating maturity, and taking on greater responsibilities.

This, I think, explains part of the reason why the left thinks gun control is a good idea. When people live in an apartment in the city, they commute to work, they order take out, they ultimately are living in a manner where the responsibilities one must take in order to survive are minimalized.

In this state of mind, gun control is a good idea. And average citizens carrying guns is a very bad idea. It would appear as dangerous as children carrying guns. Taking on an awesome responsibility like carrying a gun is so far out of the world view of someone who never has to learn how to change their tire, or fix their own plumbing, or even how to start a camp fire, just seems unreasonable.

As children, we never worry about having to protect ourselves. Mommy and daddy is always there to protect you, and when they're not, there's other adults like teachers or baby sitters to do the job. Some of us, as we become adults continue to hold onto this belief. That if anything goes wrong the police are there to protect you.

But what happens when the police aren't there to protect you? What if they suck at their job? What if they're more interesting in protecting themselves than protecting you?

Years ago, back when Michael Moore just had a little rinky dink TV show on Bravo called The Awful Truth, he did a funny little segment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkdek7Q_Rfw

So, the question is, if cops are that stupid, then why can't you learn to do the things they know how to do? If you can't be trusted with a gun, then why should they?

Another aspect of this is that I believe that many progressives have trouble with the idea of using a gun for self-defense, because it means that people they think of as crazed loons get to act as vigilantes, and serve as judge, jury, and executioner of a person they're accusing of a crime.

But that too, shows a lack of emotional maturity. It is wholly ignorant of the nature of human violence. How it happens and how fast it can happen. When a lunatic armed with nothing more than a knife can kill you in 15 seconds, dialing 9-1-1 isn't an option.

Many progressives are so abhor violence so much that they'd rather not think about such things. But I realized years ago that part of being an adult is having to think about things that you'd rather not, simply to prepare for whatever life may throw at you.

Alright, well, I suppose I've rambled enough for one night. Time for me to go back to bed.

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Despite the photo of obama with a shot gun, pretending to shoot and his patronizing statement that he shoots all the time, obama not only wants gun control but he also want to confiscate all the legal guns out there.

Just remember boy-willy you voted for him…you got conned.


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America is becoming a land full of people happy to have the government do everything for them. Whats worse is many politicians believe that it their duty to accomplish this. The gun ban has as much to do with their fear of the unwashed masses as protecting your children.

...I came to understand that it's always a good idea to know what you're capable of, and more importantly, what you're incapable of.

I think everyone should go camping. You'll quickly learn just how much you take everything for granted.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/11/nra-scrubs-anti-gun-enemy-list-from-website-but-a-version-still-exists/

NRA Enemies List

Self-Reliance= Take out your own brain tumor NRAsters


Congress of  Neurological Surgeons
American Academy of Pediatrics
A Dozen Nursing Associations
A Dozen Pediatric Medical Associations
Gray Panthers
AARP
ACLU
US Catholic Conference
Police Foundation
Anything with the word Jewish in It
American Academy of Pediatrics
National Association of Children's Hospitals
AMA
American Association of Pediatric Nurses
Everything Medical that Cares for Children
US Catholic Conference
American Nurses Association
Ambulatory Pediatric Association
American Academy of Pediatrics
National Association of Pediatric Nurse Practitioners
National Association of Children's Hospitals
Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream
Kansas City Chiefs
Kansas City Royals
St. Louis Rams
Stony Fields Yogurt
National Association of Chain Drug Stores
National Association of Elementary School Principals
National Political Congress of Black Women
NAACP
National Council of Negro Women
National Black Nurses Association
Urban League
SCLC
Hadassah
Central Conference of American Rabbis
American Jewish Congress
American Jewish Committee
American Defamation League

Anything Jewish The NRA does hate their jews.

Repuboputzofaces Invited Crazy Waynster to testify; the same idiots who are going to lose the Hegel confirmation by Friday.




How dare you fuckin' take care of children?

Who does ah luv me some more of?  NRA or Clownster Rubio regurgitated every loser proposition from Romney.

Clown ass liar Rubio full of non-sequitors.  Mah momma is on Medicare; but ah is rich so let's gut Medicare.  LOL upon LOL.   Puleeze give us Rubio to crush with a good Ciante.

Ah luvs me some Senatuh Texas Cruze prompting McCain to defend Hegel yesterday.

When is da Repubokins goin take theah show to Comedy Central?

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A little FYI, I've voted democratic almost exclusively for 18+ years... I voted for Obama in BOTH elections. I am absolutely facinated that people believe an AW ban is going to work, and even if a full blown gun ban were to happen it'd be at least a decade before you'd see schools be safer and even than a pipe bomb or something will be used. I have seen improvised devices kill first hand, if you dont believe that go to your local VA and talk to a few veterans. Take guns away, but dont think schools will be safe.
   Do you know what the green zones were/are? Think MP's within view almost everywhere, gaurded gates and fenced completely. The US military STILL suffered causalities in these areas. It is IMPOSSIBLE to protect everyone.
    Life is a risk, bad things happen. You either have to baricade yourself into your home or accept that fact.
    Don't you find it a little ironic that the gun talk is about weapons used to kill less than 3% of all gun victims? Illegal drugs and alcohol both kill 10 times the number of people killed by guns every day, yet we dont even talk about them. Why not mention how many of the gun victims or offenders were either high or drunk when they committed their crime? Why not test people on welfare for illegal drugs?
     If you want to restrict my rights than start restricting the rights of the people committing these crimes. In Chicago the average sentence served for murder is 9.8 years, 4.2 years for a sexual assault, 90% of all gun violations while in the commission of another crime are never prosecuted. If this is the model you want for  America your dam right I see flaws.

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