Shooting up Black Churches And the State of Racism in America

As this tragedy has unfolded, and we've had some time now to process what happened, I decided to take a look at Dylan Roof's manifesto. If you're someone who can't read something you don't already agree with, then it's not for you. If you have enough gray matter in your head to read something, and think about it critically, then it's worth reading.  

After Jared Lee Loughner shot Gabby Giffords, I read some of what he had written, and it was obvious that Loughner was just nuts. Probably a paranoid schizophrenic. In contrast, Dylann Roof actually sounds like he's a pretty bright kid, given his age.  

When reading what he wrote, it became clear to me that this tragedy probably wouldn't have happened if we didn't have a rather insane P.C. social justice warrior culture right now. Roof says that he was "awakened" by the Trayvon Martin case. Quick review: The police determined it was self-defense. A black lynch mob who know dick-all about the law used public pressure to prosecute Zimmerman anyway. A jury of his peers determined that it was self-defense. In other words, the police had it right the first time. Now Zimmerman was made involuntarily famous and people are shooting at him. Just because he acted in self-defense against a violent black male.  

Notice that there was a very different reaction in the white community when a black male, Jesse Matthew kidnapped and murdered a white college student Hannah Graham. There was no crowds of white people protesting anything. This demonstrates something.  

There are some logical fails in Roof's manifesto, (never mind the blatant racism), but one thing that rang true is that Roof said that "Black people view everything through a racial lens".  

Suppose I was a one of those crazies who think that I'm regularly getting abducted by aliens. Anything bad that happens to me, that I couldn't explain, I might blame on aliens. I tried to take out money from the ATM but the machine won't read my card? Aliens. I tried to buy a pack of beer, but got charged more than the price I remembered seeing on the shelf? Aliens. I ran into the pharmacy for 5 minutes and came out and found a ticket on my illegally parked car? Aliens.  

Black people are seeing racism where none exists. This is called confirmation bias.  

I think it's time that we start being honest about race in America. There are differences between the races. There's far greater differences in racial cultures. Race alone does not explain this, but despite the fact that black males make up only 6.5% of the US population, they account for 49% of all arrests for homicide.  

When you look at which race has the highest participation rate when it comes to collecting food stamps, you find that only 6.65% of Asians are on food stamps. Only 8.36% of whites are on food stamps. Only 9.49% of Hispanics are on food stamps. But a whopping 30.72% of blacks are on food stamps.

I live in a very racially diverse area. A few miles down the road from me, 6 teenagers got arrested. They got this idea that they would order a pizza to their next door neighbor who wasn't home, and rob the driver and steal all his pizzas. The police sent a K9 unit, and the dogs took the police next door where all the kids were presumably having a good time eating pizza they didn't pay for. Three guesses what race these teenagers were.

But the huge boatload of shit that Hillary just got tends to back up what you are saying.

What did Hillary say that was so bad?  

"All lives matter" instead of "Black" lives matter.

 and for that she was decried as a racist. Give me a fucking break

I think the mistake that often happens is that one black person view point (one of those "media black leaders") or small group of black people view points is heard and it seems to be automatically taken as representing the entire popluation of black people in the usa. It does not help things that when something involving race happens they get the same people on tv new shows over and over again with little to no context of the situation.  

You mention two cases: Trayvon Martin Case and Jesse Matthew Case

What does one have to do with the other. The only common thing with the cases is you have is two black men invovled, but they are different cases all together. I think someone people like to point to race just to have simple answers to problems.
 
What is black racial cutlure because I would like to know, as a black person, if I fit into your nice racial black box. At the end of the day the actions of individuals are pulled together to boil down to just race as the common factor, when the situation is more complex than that. It is like a kid, at age 6,  being taught that 2+2=5 and you point to his race as the problem of why he got the answer wrong without even thinking that the kid was taught wrong answer to begin with and no one told him that he was wrong for 10 years.  

If Hiliary Clinton is getting blow back for saying all lives matter and not saying some dumb slogan of black lives matter, then I would question the people that are going after Clinton with asking them what is wrong with saying all lives matter rather than a slogan that can be taken as putting an importance of black lives over others.

determined that when he found TROUBLE his gun would win any argument. He found a very young BLACK man in a hoodie and followed him for no good reason other than fulfilling his fantasy of finding TROUBLE. His "self defense" was because florida has a stupid law that defines self defense more or less as whipping out a gun when you find yourself some trouble.

A few posts on Facebook or few voices at a public gathering doesn't represent all, or even a majority of blacks, no more than what the Pope or Pat Robertson says represents what all or a majority of Christians believe. For a country founded on religious tolerance, it's interesting that it's so difficult for some to be racially or culturally tolerant. I saw the difference, growing up, moving between the Midwest and Southern California, then to the South. Until there is true racial and cultural tolerance, and equal education and opportunity for all, there's little to be said about the reasons for the state we're in. I had a very well know, in his community, white man say, just a couple of weeks ago, that blacks were treated better under slavery than what they are treated today. Now, I don't know how many blacks he polled to come up with that idea. Nor, how many blacks, whites, anyone of color would volunteer to become a slave, and live under the conditions dictated by one person, and having pretty much zero legal recourse. This gentleman lives in one slice of a white bread community, which sandwiches a very poor black community. Both of the white bread slices are two of the richest per capita in the state and country, and the have the very best public, and private schools. There is the saying about giving people a fish feeds them for a day, while teaching people to fish feeds them for a life time. One thing you are reminded of when knowing the goings on in these three communities, and their educational systems is, a fisherman seldom shares where he got  his catch, and what bait or lure he used. There is very little evidence that these two white bread communities have any desire to teach the children in the black community how to fish, for then these children would be competing for the same colleges, universities, medical schools, and law schools as their children.

Just because he was found not guilty, doesn't mean he's not, nor does it mean he's not guilty of provoking a confrontation, and then killing someone as a result. He knows, as most people do, he could have prevented it. Many police officers are tormented by having to shoot someone, when they had little other recourse. He had plenty of recour, and he knows it. I wouldn't be surprised that he, sooner or later, does something that makes him a target of the justice he truly knows he deserves.

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Zimmerman lost sight of Martin for quite some time, long enough time for Martin to go back to his fathers residence or flee the neighborhood.

The evidence suggests Martin doubled back and confronted Zimmerman, not the other way around as you seem to imply.

Please don't tell us what Zimmerman "knows" as you weren't present.  

Not sure what you would do if someone was pounding your head into the sidewalk. His attorneys used classic self defense to get him off as they should have.

When you confront someone and assault them like Martin did, sometimes you have to pay the consequences. Had Martin lived, he would have been brought up on charges.

Any other reading of the evidence in that case is either dishonest or politically motivated.

Many on the left do overcharge racism on an all too often basis. Of course racism exists, that is stipulated but,that doesn't mean it isn't applied in the wrong cases.

An example would be when that db Republican interrupted Obamas SOTU speech,and said "you lie." Idiots like Bill Maher and many other Media liberal elites couldn't wait to call the guy a racist.

A "racist"? Really? Rude. Yes. Irresponsible? Yep. Embarrassing? You betcha. But racist? Ummmmmm...no.

Libs don't realize by over using the term they make it less effective when there is a real case of it.

and was all evidence available to be presented, presented? And, remember OJ?  

They were there and they saw all the evidence and came to clearly what was their only choice. History is not judging that case and that decison any differently then when it happened, as opposed to the Simpson case where you now have a majority of AA's who think OJ was guilty.

Sorry Matt, the two aren't even remotely comparable.

Florida, like every other state in the union, has "classic" self defense and that is what Zimmerman's attorney used for his defense.

No "stupid law" involved at all.

And the "very young black man" thing is dishonest as well, as Martin was 6 feet and 170 pounds. He would have looked like a full grown adult to anyone being fair about this case, especially due to the fact he was wearing a hoodie.

No, the jury was not there when the event occurred. By the way. How does one pull a gun and shoot someone when they are having someone on top, bashing their head against the concrete? And, possibility that Martin did so in self-defense because Zimmeran pulled a gun on him? Yes, there is key evidence missing, and it comes from a key witness, who is now dead! In this way both cases are indeed comparable.  

Sure, anything is possible, but in court it matters what is provable.

The evidence was overwhelming in backing Zimmerman's version of events.

with any luck he will get himself murdered in the near future. He's a violent punk with a huge irrepressible chip on his shoulder.

How many people have been freed due to DNA evidence, that wasn't taken or available at the time of arrest and trial? Those juries, no doubt did the same.  

" they point to "The jury said he was innocent!!!" when it fits their agenda but think OJ did it even though he was found not guilty."

Yep! That's when you hear them say things like: "Sorry Matt, the two aren't even remotely comparable."    

I've got no dog in the Zimmerman/Martin fight you are fighting with Jack, but I am curious, do you think the black man really killed the white woman, or do you think the jury got it right?

OJ denied being the killer, Zimmerman never denied it. Apples and oranges Matt.

I just find it funny that you are now saying the juries are not perfect, duh, but at the same time you are certain that Zimmerman KNEW he had other options other than to shoot Martin.

No wonder you "yepped" up to Daffy Duck who continues to insist 911 told Zimmerman not to follow even though that was proven beyond any doubt in court not to be true. Maybe the dispatcher lied on the stand and the 911 tape lied? Roflmao

Sadly, people have to continue to lie about the facts of the case for political motives.


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...convicted him, even if they had the benefit of the photos of OJ wearing those "ugly ass" Bruno Maglis that the civil jury had.  At best there would have been a hung jury.

and is so quickly replaced by "Partisan Matt" who can't see past all the left wing rhetoric

I want Johnny Cochran defending me, even if I have to have his dead body exhumed.

I just wanted to see how far into a pretzel Matt would twist himself in order to avoid admitting that fact.

I thought it was a very good likelihood OJ was guilty of murdering Nicole Simpson, but couldn't fault the jury for their decision, especially after the whole "If it (the glove) don't fit, you must acquit."  As time goes by and there's been no body, that I can recall, that even remotely looks good for it, it seems even more likely. It definitely appeared as a crime of passion, and more people are murdered by their by their spouse, or lover, than by anyone else.

Typical of your black and white thinking. I've already pointed out that they are comparable in one way, in that a key witness is dead, and if that had Nicole Simpson and Treyvon Martin had survived, at least long enough to give a statement to the police, the outcomes of either one of those trials may have been different. Do you disagree?

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I think it's VERY fair statement that OJ has proven himself since he was acquitted to be an even more violent piece of crap than Zimmerman, wouldn't you agree?

So sometimes "The black guy" isn't the victim after all, and I am sure you remember OJ playing the race card too.

What does that have to do with anything I've said?

Lets  see if history treats Obama half as kindly twenty five years from now if we are still stuck with Obama Care for that long. Obama may rival Carter as the worst POTUS in modern history.

and I thought you were done talking to me after you ducked my question for the tenthousandth time?

Hmm, this writing in constant hyperboles may get to be habit forming, no wonder you never talk in any other terms, now if I can only learn to roll my eyes while typing, learn to have an utter disregard for the truth, and of course lose about 50 IQ points, I could be just like you.

With the Zimmerman case I don't think the outcome would have been affected at all if Martin survived for then we would have had a "he said/he said" argument and since the hard evidence, forensics and eyewitness testimony virtually all pointed to a not guilty verdict, the benefit of the doubt would go to the defendant.

As for OJ, I refer you to BP's post in this thread. I believe he is correct.  

But to be fair to you, you did use the term "may have been different" and of course I accept the possibility that it MAY have been, as unlikely as it think that it WOULD have been different, but I would have to concede that point.

Liberals love FDR and he really is a hero to many, and yet he trashed the constitution when it didn't serve his purposes and he would be, by today's definition, a war criminal.

Both sides can play that simpletons game Laff.

We disagree, have a different world view, but I don't see him saying things that are provably false time and time again like Daffy Duck does.

I have had to set DD straight several times re: the facts of Trayvon case but he continues the Sharpton method of lies and distortions.

It's one thing to say Trayvon was done dirty and have that opinion as Matt does ,like many do to be honest,  but it's quite another to disregard the cold hard facts of the case like Daffy does that people like Liberal Alan Dershowitz won't even dispute.

Do you need to be reminded that you and GaG often agree on things?  

Fk dude, you have to zero short term memory and even less intellectual honesty to make such a bone head statement.

and you wonder why so many of us called you birdbrain for all that time?

not too mention a liar.

Actually sometimes I believe your strategy is to post so many lies in each and every post that the other guy won't bother trying to correct you on each and every one of them.

I think you have finally regained TSTTT status,  

When you stop not only lying, but deliberately misquoting me, we can talk. in the meantime piss off.

What Matt will do is parse words and argue minutia for days while completely avoiding the main thrust of the argument, but I do agree, he is a thousand times better than bird brain, and manages not to talk in hyperboles on EVERY single post he makes.

Do you ever get the impression that Daffy is literally yelling at his monitor as he types?

I mean after all, you did call it a "simpleton's game" How could you possibly beat him in such a game?

I did attribute that to you, instead of him. My bad.

but even though you didn't say it, it does bring up a valid point. Zimmerman is proving himself to not being the upstanding, law abiding citizen that he tried to portray himself as being, which could cast a doubt on his story about him not being the instigator in the incident that ended up with Martin's death.  The same can also be said about OJ, who after decades of being the "golden boy" is proving himself to be quite the thug now that he is out of public favor, I think his current behavior makes it a LOT easier to believe in his past guilt, the same as Zimmerman.

and I will concede one further point to you. You rarely appear to be shouting at your monitor when "debating" It's almost impossible to talk to someone like your buddy Daffy when you can almost hear him screaming at you from  a couple of thousand miles away. You don't do that, which I why even when you go into "partisan Matt" mode, I still talk you, but when Laffy goes into Daffy Duck mode there is just no reason to talk to him anymore. Who really needs that much aggravation in their life. Nothing here is life or death and people who get that worked up might end up having a stroke at their keyboard, and unless it's from dropping him off the top of the Stratosphere to win my dollar bet with St C over whether he will bounce or simply "splat" I would hate to be responsible for his untimely demise. lmao

...scene to see what happened, leaving his footprints.  OJ had no cuts or bruises, unusual for such a violent crime.

But OJ is such a dick, he'd throw his son under the bus rather than go to prison.

I think Bob Sugar is trying to sign OJ

When people are racists they can't handle the truth about themselves.
So the look for ways to blame the other side for their actions.

 

or the one  that insists that only "black lives matter"???

Can you imagine the uproar if someone were to come out and say only "white lives matter"???

Do you really want "equal rights" or do you want white people to kiss your ass for the next four hundred years in a futile hope to make up for the last four hundred?

How many white people in Texas for example walk around with guns and are not shot or feared by cops?
Then how many black people were shot by cops with no guns but because of cops so called fear they were killed?
So stop with your bullshit and it is a difference smart ass.

So all of your well the facts of the case bullshit is garbage.
Just look at how many times this animal has been arrested after his lawyers lied to get him off.
Also the 911 operator told him to stay in his car and he did not listen.
He had no choice killing a teenager right?
The wrong guy was killed that night and the thug is still on the loose to commit more crimes!
Jack just take your hood off and open your eyes for once.

Tri,
Racial culture is the culture that is commonly embraced, through custom and tradition, by various races in various societies.  

Consider the differences between Asians and blacks.  

Asian mothers tend to drive their children hard. Often too hard. But the results are impressive. It was only 70 years ago that Japanese were held in concentration camps in the USA. The Chinese were practically enslaved building the transcontinental rail road. Despite this, you don't see Asians living in ghettos and looting liquor stores, now do you?  

An Asian immigrant can come to this country, and not even have the advantage of speaking the language, but within one generation, their children are attending the top universities in the country. Asians are doing so well, that they're beating whites.

How did this happen? Were Asians preference over other races when it comes to Affirmative Action? Do we prosecute discrimination against Asians more fiercely then we do for other races? Nope.  

The reason for the success of Asians in this country has to do with their culture. Asian moms drive their children hard and force them to succeed. Asians also have different customary values, as in one of the worst things in their culture is to disgrace your family and your ancestors.  

Now ask yourself, do the majority of black mothers drive their children to succeed? Do blacks ever concern themselves with disgracing their family or their ancestors? Do blacks commit suicide because they have shamed their family?  

What culture do blacks embrace? A friend of mine, who's a real estate agent, sold a house a while back and the tenet said that she had a free cable hooked up in every room in the house. Guess which race the tenet was. A few months back I heard a car blasting hip hop in a grocery store parking lot. The car was a '75 Gran Torino, spray painted gold with spinning hubcaps. Guess which race the driver was. If you google "looted store" what race do you think did the looting?

Is it just me, or is there a pattern here. Could it be blacks have a culture in which they embrace and even *celebrate* criminal behavior?  

Am I saying that I think that Neil DeGrasse Tyson is going to loot a liquor store because he's black? No. But I am saying that when you see people looting a liquor store you'd be a fool not to think that the people doing the looting are any race *but* black.  

After all, where are all the Asian hood rats? When was the last time you saw an Indian thug? Have you ever considered that maybe one of the reasons why we have blacks living in ghettos is because it's taboo to blame them for their poor life choices, and they cry racism to try to excuse their shitty/criminal behavior?  

Does this mean that all blacks are criminals? No. But blacks are three times more likely to be arrested in a given year than whites. Is this because the cops are racist? Sure, some are. But it's mostly because no other demographic in this country commits crimes which the frequency that blacks do.

Some people might think it was nice not to live a life viewed through a racial lens. White people generally don't. If someone is shitty to me, I don't automatically assume it's because I'm white. Rather I assume that person is an asshole or is just having a bad day. Others might prefer to be black, because then they would whine and bitch and moan about racism all day to try to excuse their failures in life. Who knows, they might even get a hard on when everyone felt pity for them. The nice thing about the Oppression Olympics is that everyone's a winner. All things being equal, I might prefer to be black. It would be nice to be more athletic and not get sun burns. But it would suck to be automatically associated with criminals. But the nice thing is that blacks that stop that perception at any time. All they have to do is stop committing crimes.

and what little he knows about black people comes from his one black co worker who has taught him "how to talk to black people" or from what he gets from his pals Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

"Wiggers" are quite common in places like Detroit, Baltimore, and virtually every other major city in this country. So besides Rachel Dolezal there are thousands of white people trying to be black. Even in the suburbs you have white kids pretending to be "hood rats"  

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Too late, here it is,  

I guess here is yet another reason that it's great having slanted eyes, "My people" are the least likely to get shot by the cops, maybe it's because we are smart enough not to commit crimes in the first place? Just remember that when your next boss is named Chang or Wong.

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That is an unfair statement, given that these two individuals gave the impression that they were indeed armed. They were both displaying replica firearms.

So were they armed and the answer is no smart ass!
They gave off the impression they had replica guns and so they should have been  killed within seconds?
How many white people have real guns and live?
We saw two weeks ago that white terrorist shoot up people in a church?
Also what about the asshole shooting up the movie theater three years ago during the Batman movie?
What about another asshole who was shooting at the congress woman and her supporters in Arizona mall parking lot years ago?
They all were white and killed people but were not killed by the cops.
The comment you posted shows white insecurities and double standard a lot people have with black or brown fear!
 

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Rachel Dolezal is case in point of someone I could never trust because should felt the need to lie about who she was from some crazy reason. I guess she wanted to do her own modern day version of a minstrel show. Becoming a leader in local chapter in the naacp, is not hard to do given that organization is outdated as the term color people. The NAACP is prime example of what happens to an organization that had no longer term planning while it still had high membership levels. It is really is a shame, as one point being a member of the naacp could get you killed in my state and now is just a dieing organization.  

People can only control their actions and can not control the acts of others. If some black person want to be a thug so be it, but at the same time I should not be lump in with them just becasue we share the same skin tone.  Not all blacks are athletic that is just plain stereotyping.  

because I'm not losing any sleep over the actions of others.

0.00000001% of 320 million people is only 3.2% of ONE person. And that is the entire population, not just white people.

According to YOUR math not a single person, far from it. So since you've chastised people on the math then you must have checked yours. That means you are a HUGE LIAR. You are doing NOTHING BUT LYING.

Well I suppose we are pretty good at math. lol

Personally I think we were on the right track for many many years where it comes to race relations. We obviously had a long ways to go, but I think this President has set back race relations by decades and instead of being a unifying figure has become every bit as divisive as either Sharpton or Jackson, but has done so from the bully pulpit of the Oval Office.

Once again it has become an "Us against them" type of mentality, and for people like me who are neither white or black it's almost as bad as watching Christians and Muslims fighting from an Agnostics POV.

That seems to be the only way he is capable of making an argument, well of course there is lying too, but that kind of goes without saying.

So of course more white people commit crimes.
They are the majority for now in this country.
The real question is why doesn't the  news media report that whites commits more crimes than black people or any other group?
It would mess up their black or brown people stereotypes that show every night.
What do they do when a white person kills or murder s people?
They look to see if that person is mentally ill first!
Also your people GaGambler (Asians) are to busy worshipping white people they don't have time to do anything else!

but unlike black people who either want to do so by violence or by whining, Asian people quietly go about their business, have solid family units and each and every year get a little closer to owning EVERYTHING. lol

and guess what, by and large so do the Hispanics. If black people don't look out it will be the Hispanics oppressing you instead of white people. Just give them time. I think it's black people that should be worried about the flood of Hispanics not the white people, Hispanics in order to improve their lives are going to have to do just like the Asians in this country and crawl right over you black people in their rise from the bottom of the economy. Like it or not "somebody" has to be at the bottom. For one group to rise from the bottom another group has to take their place. That's the lesson that you should take from the Asians, they didn't whine about their lot in life, they did something about it. Smart black people do the same,  there are a lot of black doctors, lawyers, businessmen who didn't let a little adversity stop them from achieving success, Those are the black people that should be admired and emulated.

BTW you asked for proof that white people get shot by the cops too, I provided just that PROOF, and from a black tabloid no less. You are welcome.

I just saw your response comment and laughing at you.
So when I look at my bank account and life.
Well let's just say not all black people have to worry about anything.
Also Hispanics are apart of my family heritage but I am a proud black man first.
How many Asians date outside their race smart guy.
Also look what happens when white people go to a Asian country.
It's like they are seeing Gods.
I know every time I turn around Asians are with a white man or woman more than any other race of people.
So I asked a guy I worked with why and he said one word status.
They want the image of achievement and feel white people equal success.
We laugh and talked about how fucked up some people are with that mind set.
This is why your response does not surprise me and I know it hit a nerve with you.

I think in these two cases do not compare to the cases where people give no impression of being armed. It's not fair to the people who get shot while not giving any impression of being armed

Yet it's the Asians that "date outside their race"???

You are one seriously confused person., Or just not too bright I suppose.

The ONLY issue at hand in whether a shooting is legal is whether or not a police officer or legal gun owner reasonably believes his life or someone else's life is in jeopardy or they fear great bodily harm.

The "unarmed" nonsense comes from know nothing liberal media elites who have an anti-cop, pro-black, anti-gun rights bias.

Trayvon Martin was unarmed and he was legally shot and killed.

Just look around you on the street, TV and movies.
When you see a Asian man or woman they are dating or married to a white person even more so than their own race.
This is not something I made up and other races of people do it too.
The difference is your culture has a obsession with the white culture where others do not!

That's the way it is suppose to be... "All lives matter".

I do believe in that. I know they are trying to stop some of the crap they go through, but flashing "Black lives matter" is offensive. It's like putting up a "we mean more than other races" sign. I know it wasn't meant as such (for most of the protesters) but it does have that feel to it. I see no reason why they can't have signs saying "All lives matter" or "Black lives matter too".

Only nut jobs would call Hillary racist for pointing out that we all matter.

I agree with your post.

The sky is falling!!!

There is much truth in what you just said. For the record, I have been pulled over for "driving black", or it sure as hell felt like it. We refer to it as DWB (driving while black). It's messed up when they profile anyone and that is the term many use when you get pulled over because of any sort of profiling. I was driving an older car and had a hoodie on with a backwards Brewers cap. Every time I drove in that sort of a getup, in the one city, I got pulled over for fake reasons. "Your headlight is out ma'am" You know damn well I am getting out of my car to see if the headlight is out and it isn't. Apparently I look like a young gang banger with my backwards hat? That is the best I can figure.

Doesn't happen anymore once I started driving new cars and not wearing my hat so much. I only wear it when driving to keep my hair from flying in my face.

I like cops just fine but only when they are doing their job and not messing with people for no reason.  

It's like everyone of your comments exposed your racial hatred!

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I will accept that blacks get arrested more often for dealing or using pot then whites. That's mostly because whites have the common sense to smoke weed indoors where they're no cops around.  

But I'm talking about arrests for violent crime. If we assume that whites and blacks commit violent crimes at the same rates, and we only prosecute blacks for murder, then we've got a fuck of a lot of murders going on that are being left unsolved.  

The reality is that blacks simply murder people at three times a higher rate than white people do.

First off, there's nothing wrong with being athletic. Hispanics are stereotyped as being hard workers. That's not bad either.  

Southern whites are stereotyped as being dumb redneck racist hicks. If I didn't like that kind of a stereotype, then I would choose not to live in a trailer in Alabama and have lawn furniture made out of beer cans.  

The problem here is that blacks have whined and pissed and moaned about racism for so long, that they've forgotten that they must participate in solving the problem. Here's an idea, maybe blacks shouldn't wear hoodies for a while. You know how when you've had tacos for dinner for three days in a row and you start shitting hot sauce? That's nature telling you it's time to switch things up. Same principle here. Switch things up. No hoodies for a while.  

You know how blacks complain about racial profiling for the crime of "driving while black"? Maybe blacks should give up their spinning hubcaps for a while. Maybe they should instead buy boring white guy cars that don't get the attention of racist cops. Just try it for a while and see if this racial profiling problem doesn't just go away.  

You know how when you see a liquor store being looted and someone tries to excuse that behavior as "community outrage"? Maybe you should tell that person to shut the fuck up, and the reason why their looting the liquor store was because they wanted free booze. Or a better option would be to get a job so you can buy your own goddamn booze.  

Blacks have embraced a victim narrative in order to excuse their shitty behavior. And they're not alone. They have a lot of company in this country when it comes to this. But we're never going to get rid of racism unless blacks become willing participants in eliminating it. It means changing people's impressions of you on a person by person basis. It means proving yourself to others. Barack Obama has done exactly that. So has Neil DeGrasse Tyson, and countless others. And when I see those men, all I see are men. Not black men, but men.

I hate to admit it, but Asians, from virtually all countries in Asia with the notable exception of Thailand are extremely racist and marrying either a black or white person brings deep shame to the family. If you doubt me, just Google the mixed kids the American servicemen have left behind in places like Korea and Vietnam. Even Hines Ward was an outcast until he became an NFL star that is.

You seem to talk so much, and know so little, no wonder you, Hadji and Daffy are such good buddies, but I suppose once you read Hadji's last review, you may want nothing to do with him as he now appears to be "playing for the other team" and by "other team" I don't mean the GOP. lmao

I can see this hit a nerve with you and everybody knows it true about Asians people.
Most Asian people also know it's the truth themselves.
So Koreans are known for their racist ways toward blacks and Vietnam is over fifty years old now.
You are only left with name calling now since you cannot dispute the truth with your people.
The old people think shame and the younger generation thinks status.

Unless one considers the situation where the DA and their experts have used questionable techniques or treatment of evidence -- or simply got it wrong -- to prosecute someone and those someones are invariably black.

I suspect part of that is because some are raciest and have a position to exercise that racisms. In other cases it might be more pragmatic and more a problem of urbanization and population mobility. The more affluent can commute to the good jobs in the cities. The poor cannot commute to be near the social services or from the housing projects.  

That said, I think the point about culture has some merit but not sure all that great and the black culture you talk about can be painted with that one broad brush. There are a lot of very successful blacks in the USA. There is a growing middle class of blacks (probably has been a hidden middle class for longer than most would believe) that do things just like a white person, an Asian or even a African person. If one described they daily activities without describing the person you would probably have the image of a white person in your hear rather than a black person. This is the problem -- blacks are almost always presented in the news stories as welfare, gang or scraping by -- but then if you get to the business and sports news you'll almost never here race mentioned about the successful person they are reporting on, yet in sports (and many business news) the person is black.

How could the fact that Asians sometimes, or oftentimes marry  or date interracially possibly offend me. The fact that you are a "breed" yourself makes your statements even more ridiculous.

You flatter yourself, thinking that you have found a chink in this chinks armor. You couldn't hit a nerve of mine with a team of neurosurgeons. Lame, Lame, Lame.

You remind me of Xfean AKA TrannyBoy, so named because he preferred trannies over women with actual vaginas, he used to try to insult me by calling me GayGambler, I am still trying to figure out which one of you is dumber.

And fostered it as well. Obama forces us to see him ONLY as a black man as his true colors hace now shown.  

He is a racist, a racist who did his best to hide it at first but as with any white racist, or a racist of any color, they eventually show themselves for what and who they really are.

He can't run for reelection, there is no "next job" that he needs to campaign for, so what does he have to lose? When even Hillary Clinton is taken to task for "racial insensitivity" you know the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction.

Mark my words, Obama is going to go down as the most divisive POTUS in modern history, no one even comes close in helping to drive a wedge between rich and poor, black and white, than him. No other POTUS in our lifetime can even be compared to him.

some of us saw it early on, but now except for those with blinders on, it's become plainly obvious that Obama has been harboring a lot of hate for the very country he was entrusted to lead and when he says "black lives matter" he really does mean that they matter more to him than the lives of anyone else.

I wonder why it upsets you so much smart ass??
Also the other person you are talking about I don't know him or could careless.
Just remember I am the same guy who stands by my other comment.
I only mess with real females born that way and even took heat from your own personal buddy.

We are talking about your people or okay half of your people.
The more you come back talking shows this is really getting to you.
So keep throwing out insults it's shows you cannot take the heat!

 

Well one was in a toy store -- not sure if it was the exact row they are sold in -- and the other was a boy in a play ground. If a cop is that afraid of the risks of putting on one of those badges they should be a different job.

BTW, isn't it legal for someone to have and carry such items? Shouldn't the cops have started from the presumption of innocence and maybe ask for their license? I would think so as in both cases no actual crime was really being reported -- just a report that someone was scared and probably not someone that has a clue what a real pistol or rifle looks like in someone's hands. (Consider the difference in weight between metal and plastic).

We, as a society, really need to stop rationalizing and justifying shooting by police simply because they say they got scared.

and it wasn't simply because you only like women, the overwhelming majority of men only like women, that's why we call it "normal" you were just one of the few being a complete bigot about the subject, something that seems to carry over to race with you as well. Just like your hero Obama, a racist and a bigot. lmao

Actually the only reason I am even talking to you, something I almost never do, is to see if there is really someone on this board that is as big a liar as Daffy, and you may just be that person.

Daffy never defends him? LOL

He goes right into " Well, Bush has done x or y."

Is it possible he is learning? LOL

And then chastised GaG for not understanding the math. Since the math of this is clearly so important to you I thought for sure you'd be grateful to be made aware of your mistake. Math is one of those things where the numbers actually mean things. I make my living using math every day so it's important to me. You, not so much I guess.

Now you'd rather deflect by changing the subject, so I think we're done

So when people come from diverse families of color.
Then being racist is for people like Jack that only see whiteness.
You are a fraud and cannot see the  real facts about your people.
So now you want to bring in the President who has a diverse family background himself?
What a clown and maybe you should question yourself why the truth hurt so much?
The reason why is you are mixed yourself.
 

"Bush was worse" is now the mantra of the idiot lefties like DD.

BTW Daffy does definitely seem to be obsessed with the fact that I have put him on the TSTTT list. I think he responded at least once, and in many cases twice to every single post I have made over the last few days. Unlike Daffy, I don't need an "ignore function" to ignore people that are TSTTT. I just ignore them like elevator music. Simple, isn't it?

And with each post he just gets more and more dishonest. Check out his new dingbat OP about "righties" comments about blacks. And its in quotes! LOL

chastises critics for not understanding more accurately your math.

I would have left you alone on the whole matter except for the fact that you were being, well you know, an idiot.

Remember how Pri would lie his ass off, and then when he invariably would get caught, he would pretend that he was "just joking"  

Same with bird brain, he finally admits to hyperbole, but only after getting caught in another lie. I see has made himself a new friend in fatgirl, who is probably the only person as dumb and as dishonest as he is.  I can just see them rolling their eyes together.

Jack,  
Obama's politics is beside the point. The point is that I don't see Obama as a black man. I just see him as a man. Why? Because he's accomplished something with his life. He's the President of the United States. I paid attention to the work of Neil DeGrasse Tyson for years before noticing he was black. The thought literally never even occurred to me until he mentioned it once.

Laffy, here's a clue. You can call me a racist until you're blue in the face, and it's not going to faze me.  

I used to own a Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera. It was the first car I ever bought. All my black co workers thought it was pretty nice. To me it was just a car. Guess what? I couldn't drive 2 feet in that damn car without getting pulled over. The cops always assumed I was black. Then I bought a boring ass Chevy Cavilier. Guess what? I didn't get pulled over again for years.  

Cops don't racially profile, so much as they look for cars that black people would likely be driving. Don't want to get racially profiled? Buy another car. A boring white guy car.

Not to dissimilar to when I was young, when virtually all my sports heroes were black.

I didn't see them as "black." There race was irrelevant to me because they had accomplished something I admired.

That also crossed over into my adulthood. If a man is accomplished, be it a TV commentator or salesman or accountant or whatever,  a certain amount of color blindness can certainly be the result.

I doubt very much that Obama considers himself an American first and a black man second, which is not too much to ask for from the POTUS. Black issues are what seems to get his heart beating, American issues that effect all of us seem to be secondary.  

I am usually colorblind when dealing with people, I treat all people the same, BADLY. Obama was outraged about Ferguson, but barely acknowledged the two cops in NYC who were gunned down in supposed retaliation for Ferguson. As Obama himself acknowledged there have been several mass killings in this country since he took office, did you see him even remotely as emotional about those deaths as he was over the deaths in SC? Not even close. Face it, Obama is a racist pure and simple. but like that privileged, unappreciative, cunt wife of his.

Or maybe your plan is to litigate fake math hyperbole, claiming false victory, in another future thread. I doubt that chance will surface anytime soon.

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Remember when Priapussy threatened to sue me for slander and defamation of character for calling him out for welshing on a bet? Only Priapussy or BirdBrain could get that butt hurt over things said on a fuck board that only a handful of people ever read.

For years I drove Cadillacs and whenever I got pulled over I was always treated like a businessman, but then many years ago I decided to buy a Jaguar and all of a sudden I started getting treated like a fucking drug dealer. I couldn't believe the difference, especially since the cars were relatively equal in price. Go figure.

but your experience does lend more proof that there is such a thing as "driving while black" or in your case "driving while looking black"

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