Politics and Religion

Hunter, just ignore Miss Fat Pompous Ass....eom
SouthernJezebel See my TER Reviews 10371 reads
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1 / 25

McCain made a good choice, conservative views AND attractive. If she or McCain are not "prepared" enough to run the country, then Obama is not prepared in spades.
Hunter

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2 / 25
SouthernJezebel See my TER Reviews 1737 reads
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3 / 25

LOL      I am not editing chit, and why should I? Another alias using freak trying to make something of nothing.
Grow a spine, use your REAL handle, then get back to me.

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4 / 25

I was simply pointing out that you may have inadvertently used a term that could appear to be racist and suggesting that you edit before the assholes who will make something of it start to.

But, obviously do what you want.  It's the kind of overreaction that you just had that keeps me behind the alias.

SouthernJezebel See my TER Reviews 1745 reads
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5 / 25

NO, you use an alias so you can point out something to MAKE it racist....the use of the term 'spades" in this context is not racist at all.  and IF your purpose was to warn me, you could have private messaged me. In any case, it's not that you fear a reaction, it's that you're a COWARD.
Read again...grow a spine, and get back to me.  After all, if you really have one, private message me.  
I won't hold my breath.
Hunter

GaGambler 1547 reads
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6 / 25

First it was the word "snigger", now it's the term "in spades". Give it a rest already. What's next? I am supposed to take offense if someone uses the expression "chink in their armor"(I am of Chinese descent)

Frankly I don't give a fuck about people that are so sensitive that they have to look for racism under every rock. Anyone that takes offense over this post needs to get over it. I am not walking on eggshells for anyone, and somehow I think neither is Atl Hunter.

FWIW AtlHunter and I can't stand each other, but right is right.

SouthernJezebel See my TER Reviews 2032 reads
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7 / 25
anon1112245 2092 reads
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8 / 25

What a great speech. She is someone that we can all be very proud of, a total class act!

SouthernJezebel See my TER Reviews 1164 reads
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9 / 25

Yes, she did!    She may very well be the first lady VP:)  and John Rich's "Raisin' McCain"  was awesome too.

SinsOfTheFlesh See my TER Reviews 2564 reads
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11 / 25

But now I will walk though FIRE to send this woman to DC.

Her speech was AWESOME!!!!! I am just speechless (honestly) at the poise, intelligence, and GUTS she displayed tonight. A pitbull in heels, that is Sarah Palin. No wonder she was nicknamed Barracuda :)

SouthernJezebel See my TER Reviews 3379 reads
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12 / 25

LOL       You have the sneaking suspicion that it's the same person I am thinking also.....

anon1112245 2408 reads
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13 / 25

Biden lost a few more plugs tonight, lmao.

Sarah is wonderful, I am excited about the election now!

BreakerMorant 1299 reads
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14 / 25

who actually has been at the North Slope. My best friend has child with special needs. This week we are hitting the streets for McCain and Palin.

She is terrific!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GaGambler 1908 reads
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15 / 25

plus you know how I feel about alias posters who don't have the stones to stand behind their posts.

BreakerMorant 3036 reads
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16 / 25
Timbow 1886 reads
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17 / 25

the bed-wetting liberals were pissing their pants!!! :) WE have a pitbull for ''The magic negro'' community organizer :)
Chuckie T MSNBC says she is the Reps Obama :)
How is the stupid bitch Peggy Noonan gonna write a review on her speech  ? She wrote a praising article in WSJ before she said these dumb remarks . :)



Wall Street Journal columnist and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan and former John McCain adviser, Time columnist, and MSNBC contributor Mike Murphy were caught on tape disparaging John McCain's selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his Vice Presidential running mate.

"It's over," Noonan said.

When Chuck Todd asked her if this was the most qualified woman the Republicans could nominate, Noonan responded, "The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bull**** about narratives. Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and that's not what they're good at, they blow it."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-mike-murphy_n_123647.html


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XiaomingLover1 67 Reviews 2953 reads
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18 / 25

now, things are tough when a lifelong GOP talking head/hack like Peggy Noonan is taking fire from the Palinophiles.  Come what may, Gov Palin's amusement value is going to be far greater than I imagined.

But I don't mind a little fratricide among the GOP, as the Dems usually have a monopoly on self-destruction.   Mae West : "too much of a good thing is wonderful."

741512th 34 Reviews 1412 reads
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19 / 25

On pipelines:  "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get the gas line built, so pray for that."

On the war in Iraq:  "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's will."


And my current favorite on the Pledge of Allegiance:  

In a 2006 questionnaire for Alaska's gubernatorial race -

Question: Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

Palin: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I'll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.

The pledge, of course, was not written until 1892 and the words "under God" were not added until the 1950s.

Timbow 1714 reads
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20 / 25

Damn I hope the DEms are dumb enough to make that an issue . The beautiful pitbull will be unleashed to bomb Obama on Rev Wright .
Do you really think they want to go that route :)

I can tell you no little  about history George Washington talked  about God in his first speech .

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Timbow 2909 reads
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21 / 25

Damn I hope the DEms are dumb enough to make that an issue . The beautiful pitbull will be unleashed to bomb Obama on Rev Wright .
Do you really think they want to go that route :)

741512th 34 Reviews 1603 reads
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22 / 25

A minor difference in that Palin actually said it herself.  Wright wasn't speaking for Obama.

George Washington also quit his church because he refused to be pressured by the minister.  He only attended to be with his wife.

"With respect to the inquiry you make, I can only state the following facts: that as pastor of the Episcopal Church, observing that, on sacramental Sundays George Washington, immediately after the desk and pulpit services, went out with the greater part of the congregation -- always leaving Mrs. Washington with the other communicants -- she invariably being one -- I considered it my duty, in a sermon on public worship, to state the unhappy tendency of example, particularly of those in elevated stations, who uniformly turned their backs on the Lord's Supper. I acknowledge the remark was intended for the President; and as such he received it. A few days after, in conversation, I believe, with a Senator of the United States, he told me he had dined the day before with the President, who, in the course of conversation at the table, said that, on the previous Sunday, he had received a very just rebuke from the pulpit for always leaving the church before the administration of the sacrament; that he honored the preacher for his integrity and candor; that he had never sufficiently considered the influence of his example, and that he would not again give cause for the repetition of the reproof; and that, as he had never been a communicant, were he to become one then, it would be imputed to an ostentatious display of religious zeal, arising altogether from his elevated station. Accordingly, he never afterwards came on the morning of sacrament Sunday, though at other times he was a constant attendant in the morning."
-- The Reverend Doctor James Abercrombie, in a letter to a friend in 1833, Sprague's Annals of the American Pulpit, vol. 5, p. 394, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, pp. 25-26


If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.
-- George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789, in Anson Phelps Stokes, Church and State in the United States, Vol 1. p. 495, quoted from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

"I have diligently perused every line that Washington ever gave to the public, and I do not find one expression in which he pledges, himself as a believer in Christianity. I think anyone who will candidly do as I have done, will come to the conclusion that he was a Deist and nothing more."
-- The Reverend Bird Wilson, an Episcopal minister in Albany, New York, in an interview with Mr. Robert Dale Owen written on November 13, 1831, which was publlshed in New York two weeks later, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, pp. 27

"Washington never even got around to recording his belief that Christ was a great ethical teacher. His reticence on the subject was truly remarkable. Washington frequently alluded to Providence in his private correspondence. But the name of Christ, in any correspondence whatsoever, does not appear anywhere in his many letters to friends and associates throughout his life."
-- Paul F Boller, George Washington & Religion (1963) pp. 74-75, quoted from Ed and Michael Buckner, "Quotations that Support the Separation of State and Church." Had Washington been a pious Christian, he would have at least mentioned the name of Christ!

"That he [Washington] was not just striking a popular attitude as a politician is revealed by the absence of of the usual Christian terms: he did not mention Christ or even use the word 'God.' Following the phraseology of the philosophical Deism he professed, he referred to 'the invisible hand which conducts the affairs of men,' to 'the benign parent of the human race.'"
-- James Thomas Flexner, describing Washington's first Inaugural Address, in George Washington and the New Nation (1783-1793) (1970) p. 184, quoted from Ed and Michael Buckner, "Quotations that Support the Separation of State and Church"

"The founders of our nation were nearly all Infidels, and that of the presidents who had thus far been elected [Washington; Adams; Jefferson; Madison; Monroe; Adams; Jackson] not a one had professed a belief in Christianity....
    "Among all our presidents from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism."
-- The Reverend Doctor Bird Wilson, an Episcopal minister in Albany, New York, in a sermon preached in October, 1831, first sentence quoted in John E Remsberg, Six Historic Americans, second sentence quoted in Paul F Boller, George Washington & Religion, pp. 14-15

Timbow 1486 reads
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23 / 25

http://www.earstohear.net/Heritage/gwashington.html

You posted revionist history , GW thought the providence of God was vital to the US . Palin was not specific about the pledge and she did not say anything wrong or incorrect.
"Under God" was what she was basing her statement on and GW was the Founding Father .
She  might should have said the pharse was not  said exactly by GW but the belief in a higher power  and as I said above providence was evident is GW opening speech and even more in his final address it is a fact.


In his Inaugural Address, Washington said: "It would be peculiarly improper to omit, in this first official act, my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe...

No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than the people of the United States.



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Blackbeltxxx 13 Reviews 2377 reads
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24 / 25

pot calling the kettle black? LOL  

A comedian said;

"It's ok to title a movie: White men can't jump. So why can't we title a movie:  Why the fuck can't black people shut the hell up in a movie theater."

If you take that seriously, and not as a joke, then you are way too PC.

741512th 34 Reviews 2062 reads
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25 / 25

It isn't "revisionist."  It is just history.  When one contrasts the totality of Washington's life against one statement, he was not particularly religious.  He wasn't atheist; he was a deist.  However, Washington was decidely NOT a christian.

Notice in your own quote how he generically references an "Almighty Being" and the "Invisible Hand."  He was very careful not to endorse christianity or any other religion.  Partly because he firmly believed that religion had no place in government and party because he was not a follower of any established faith.  Washington was a Deist (I suspect because science was not as far along as it is now).

Sarah Palin believes that her imaginary friend is taking a specific side with the U.S. in large and trivial matters.  She is a fine standard bearer for the christian taliban that controls the GOP.

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