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Cleveland will show us how GOP understand rules, how they make them and how the follow them.
bigguy30 143 reads
posted
2 / 18

Also they are not switching, from Trump.
He really represents everything, the GOP party really stands for as a group.
So this is all about, trying to grab more headlines, before the GOP convention.
It's the Trump way of getting attention for himself with more bs. Lol

Posted By: ChoosyCynic
Get your popcorn & booze out starting July 18.

ChoosyCynic 1 Reviews 142 reads
posted
3 / 18

If she has a 10+% lead by the time of the convention, watch the "dump Trump" movement gather full steam.

Posted By: bigguy30
Also they are not switching, from Trump.  
 He really represents everything, the GOP party really stands for as a group.  
 So this is all about, trying to grab more headlines, before the GOP convention.  
 It's the Trump way of getting attention for himself with more bs. Lol  
   
Posted By: ChoosyCynic
Get your popcorn & booze out starting July 18.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 160 reads
posted
4 / 18

And then how they remake them because they don't wanna follow them. A very dangerous element to our national makeup.

GiantBombing 155 reads
posted
5 / 18

Forgive me, I'm not from the US or living in the US and so I'm not fully versed on how the politics there works, and so I might be misunderstanding or misinterpreting here. With that said:

Would the GOP changing their rules regarding unbound delegates not basically amount to a tacit admission that they're not actually in favour of democracy? They let the people vote for their nominee in the respective states where delegates are bound to adhere to said votes at the convention... Except when it means they end up with a guy they don't like, so now they're scrambling to rewrite the rules? Political affiliations aside that alone would make me not want to have anything to do with them; how can they claim to represent the people when they are deliberately and openly attempting to misrepresent them?

GaGambler 152 reads
posted
6 / 18

You would know you were right without asking. lol

but it's not just the GOP, as much as Democrats would like to deny it if Bernie were to have won the nomination "fair and square" the Super Delegates of Hillary would have accomplished the very same thing and thwarted the will of the people. The deck was stacked against Bernie from the beginning both his fans and his detractors (like me) alike knew it from the beginning.

This is a huge part of Trump's appeal to the "common man" The "establishment" is trying their level best to fuck him. To those of us who loathe and detest the establishment this is a VERY compelling reason to vote for him. My only small disagreement with what you have to say on the subject is that you seem to believe that the corruption is limited to only one of the two major parties, I maintain BOTH parties are corrupt and it's leaders are more interested in power and control than listening to the voice of the people.

ChoosyCynic 1 Reviews 122 reads
posted
7 / 18

NOT a direct democracy; if the latter were the case, chaos would reign.

If what happens in the post comes to pass, think of it as "voter nullification". I would think quite a few Trump supporters are having 2nd thoughts &  he's starting to be seen by many of them as an unstable, ignorant, racist demagogue. That's not what the GOP wants as their standard bearer & more importantly, to lose everything in a massive landslide election.

GiantBombing 145 reads
posted
8 / 18

Posted By: GaGambler
My only small disagreement with what you have to say on the subject is that you seem to believe that the corruption is limited to only one of the two major parties,
I can see how you might infer that from that post but that's certainly not my opinion - it's just that the sheer brazenness with which the GOP seems to be attempting to hurl democracy out of the window stood out to me in particular.  

And as for the question, well, yeah, I figured I was correct but I also wanted the confirmation of both my thoughts and that I understood the situation correctly.

GaGambler 132 reads
posted
9 / 18

I also have to admit, it's one of the main things I like about Trump. It's often said you can judge a man by his friends, well you can judge him by his enemies as well.

I think if Trump is to win in November, and for the record I freely admit that is a longshot, it will be by pointing out the Hillary is the very definition of being part of the establishment and that Trump is the only hope for any real change. It probably still won't be enough and Trump can also be his worst enemy, but he still has a chance if he doesn't listen to the "experts" like Cheesy.

ChoosyCynic 1 Reviews 123 reads
posted
10 / 18

Which screws your 1st argument.

"The "establishment" is trying their level best to fuck him [ Trump]"

Trump has fucked over himself.

Which screws your second argument

ChoosyCynic 1 Reviews 131 reads
posted
11 / 18

& that doesn't need an "expert" like you or I to figure that out.

GaGambler 129 reads
posted
12 / 18

His chances are far from "none" Slim perhaps, but certainly not "none"

If his chances are so slim, I suppose you are going to offer me some compelling odds, right?

JackDunphy 137 reads
posted
13 / 18

They have done NOTHING as yet.

But should people be stuck with a vote they would change? I think not.

Seems to me a true democracy would allow for a change to an initial grave mistake of a vote IF circumstances were so bizarrely different than they were when they cast their vote.

Are we there now? No maybe not. Could we be at some point? Of course

GaGambler 120 reads
posted
14 / 18

I clearly said "IF" Bernie had won, which he didn't

But Bernie had a valid point when he pointed out that Hillary had hundred of super delegates BEFORE a single vote by the people had been cast. What kind of Democracy is that? (okay, I know full well the US is NOT a true Democracy, but still)

As for Trump it's not to late to put your money where your mouth is.

ChoosyCynic 1 Reviews 129 reads
posted
15 / 18

We might be reaching that point sooner than you'd think.

Posted By: JackDunphy
They have done NOTHING as yet.  
   
 But should people be stuck with a vote they would change? I think not.  
   
 Seems to me a true democracy would allow for a change to an initial grave mistake of a vote IF circumstances were so bizarrely different than they were when they cast their vote.  
   
 Are we there now? No maybe not. Could we be at some point? Of course.  
   
 

ChoosyCynic 1 Reviews 129 reads
posted
16 / 18

If she's indicted, you win, If he resigns, I win. I think that's fair.

The response to this will be very predictable.

GaGambler 120 reads
posted
17 / 18

but the current odds are 1-3 on Hillary.

why would I give you even odds when I can get three to one from a bookie?

Give me fair odds and I'll give you as much action as you can handle.

quadseasonal 27 Reviews 124 reads
posted
18 / 18

Less than three weeks ago you posted  Hillary has a double digit lead.
  Unless your idea of double digit is 3 + 3 =6, her  polling numbers have dropped  substantially since the 4th of June.  

 When I'm campaigning for Mr. Trump at local Colleges and Parks I prefer to target Bernie supporters with videos of the evils of corrupt war mongering Hillary, rarely mentioning the  
 good a President Trump will bring to America.  
   I'm not surprised  many Bernie supporters claim they will not vote for evil Hillary no matter what.
   
   Every day I hear more and more  young voters claiming  they will vote for Trump. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leighwolf/2016/06/10/video-will-bernie-supporters-vote-for-hillary-nono-they-will-not-n2176512  

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/481389/

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/22/trump-winning-over-sanders-supporters-isnt-as-crazy-as-you-think-commentary.html
 
 I expect evil crooked Hillary's popularity to fall  while Mr. Trump's popularity is gaining.  

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20160620-what-we-know-about-hope-hicks-smu-grad-and-donald-trump-s-secretive-press-secretary.ece
Posted By: ChoosyCynic
Clinton has double digit lead over Trump
Posted by ChoosyCynic, 6/4/2016 1:20:30 PM No denying Trump's had a miserable week & it's benefited HRC.

Posted By: ChoosyCynic
If she has a 10+% lead by the time of the convention, watch the "dump Trump" movement gather full steam.  
   
Posted By: bigguy30
Also they are not switching, from Trump.  
  He really represents everything, the GOP party really stands for as a group.  
  So this is all about, trying to grab more headlines, before the GOP convention.  
  It's the Trump way of getting attention for himself with more bs. Lol  
     
Posted By: ChoosyCynic
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