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...pictures of the three buses outside of Wayne County Airport in Detroit.  In his post with the photos, Rep. Matt Maddock said, "Happening right now.  Three buses just loaded up with illegal invaders at Detroit Metro.  Anyone have any idea where they're headed with their police escort?"

 
However, a spokesperson with the Wayne County Airport Authority sent a statement to CBS News Detroit, saying, "The four men's basketball teams competing in the NCAA Tournament's Sweet 16 at Little Caesars Arena arrived at DTW Wednesday evening.  The buses seen in a photograph circulating online were transporting the basketball teams and their respective staffs."

 
Why are righties crazy racists?

 
http://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/matt-maddock-falsely-claims-illegal-invaders-detroit-metro-airport-it-was-ncaa-baskebtall-teams/

Looks like Matt’s got some egg on his face.

Righty Rep. Matt Maddock did not have to vet his source... HE WAS THE SOURCE.  HE saw the "illegal invaders."
HE photographed the "illegal invaders" and HE posted the photos of the "illegal invaders."
Now go wipe that egg off your face.

It’s not clear from CBS’s report whether the pics were taken by Matt or sent to him by a constituent.  If you’ve got confirmation that Matt was at the airport at the same time the basketball teams were, and took the pictures himself, feel free to update your OP below.

You say it’s not clear from CBS’s report whether the pics were taken by Matt or sent to him by a constituent.  If you’ve got confirmation that Matt was NOT at the airport at the same time the basketball teams were, and took the pictures himself, feel free to update your post above. .

Realizing his post is debunked, he asks me to prove a negative, when the onus to reply is on him.

You were the first to claim he was NOT the source so it's up to YOU to prove it.  But since you're a righty weasel:

"Michigan state Sen. Mallory McMorrow wrote on social media that Maddock’s post is 'dangerous.'

'A sitting State Representative sees a group of busses at the airport and immediately yells ‘illegal invaders’ which is a pretty rude (and also, frankly, dangerous) way to greet the Gonzaga Men’s Basketball Team arriving for March Madness,' McMorrow wrote."
http://www.huffpost.com/entry/michigan-representative-buses-airport-illegal-invaders-basketball-players-ncaa_n_6605aaece4b05f4de328250f

The real point is that righties are bat shit crazy!

BigP claims that the GOP Representative was at the airport, but the CBS story he linked to doesn’t say the representative was at the airport or that he took the photo of the busses in question.

I invited him to post proof of his claim when he found it.

If you’ve got confirmation that Matt was at the airport at the same time the basketball teams were, and took the pictures himself, feel free to update your OP below.
He initially balked, but after pointing out he was just stepping in his own shit again, he did grudgingly come around, searched the internet and found the info that backed up his initial claim. It took a while, but maybe that’s all we can expect from a cut rate paralegal…

...without questioning it because it was "Good Enough For P&R Standards."  HUH?!  What The Fuck are "P&R Standards?"  Something CKS175 pulled out of his ass!  It means he was too lazy to find a link himself or verify/disprove my link.
"P&R Standards" - ROFLMAO!!  What an idiot!!!

It’s pointed out that BigPapaTard’s follow up attempt to provide evidence was weak, but still meets P&R standards. A little tongue in cheek comment is apparently too much for him, or he’s apparently too stupid to recognize humor. Then again, both could be true.

...without questioning it because it was "Good Enough For P&R Standards."  HUH?!  What The Fuck are "P&R Standards?"  Something CKS175 pulled out of his ass!  
Tongue in cheek or not, there are P&R Standards that BigP rarely meets. He should be happy he was given credit for posting something that reached the standard (using a VERY generous measure of that standard).

If he doesn’t understand the P&R Standard for posts, all I can do is refer him to Justice Potter Stewart’s concurrence in Jacobellis v Ohio,

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["P&R Standards"], and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the BigPapasan post involved in this thread is not that.

And all over the country, every day of the week.

Why is he so wildly in favor of open borders?

Because way too many people when it comes to politics use emotions instead of facts and reality to form an opinion as to what is right or wrong when it comes to way too many things. It is a knee jerk reaction and people become very polarized on a topic even if they know nothing about it. They also look to our government to be a guide for us as to what is right or wrong, good for us or bad for us, according to what is illegal or legal. There is always going to be a faction of our society that even when faced with multiple facts showing the truth on a subject they are still going to believe otherwise. We also have people that are completely unable to look at a person as a individual person, just like we all are. There is a quick stereotypical response to put them into a group to determine if you consider the person "ok" and good or "not ok" and bad. We are all guilty of it, it only differs if we can step back and impartially analyze with facts instead of just utilizing our emotions to make decisions.

Posted By: WIMissScarlet
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...........when it comes to politics use emotions instead of facts and reality to form an opinion as to what is right or wrong..........
This is EXACTLY how we ended up with the president that we have right now.

How many people do you know who said "I'll vote for anyone as long as it's not Donald Trump"
Meaning,  I'll vote for a complete failure of a leader just BECAUSE it's not Donald Trump.

Would you hire the manager or CEO of your company that way? I think not.

Of course not, that is why I almost always vote third party. I vote for the person I actually support, not the party affiliation.

There is no organization with a shred of sense that would hire Trump as CEO. Criminal and civil indictments and some convictions ... and others likely to follow. A LONG history of business failures. Six business bankruptcy filings. The one time he was CEO of a publicly traded company, he bankrupted it in just a few years. Many public statements, any ONE of which would lead to the dismissal of the speaker from leadership in any real business. ....  
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Don't take my word for it. Take it from Trump himself. From the filings prepared by Trump and his lawyers for the SEC:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/sec.irpass.cc/2660/0001193125-24-038590.htm
Date: 2/16/2024 Form: 424B4 - Prospectus [Rule 424(b)(4)]
See pages 130-134.
"Risks Related to our Chairman President Donald J. Trump"
"The death, incarceration, or incapacity of President Trump, or discontinuation or limitation of his relationship with TMTG, may negatively impact TMTG’s business. "
"Donald J. Trump is the subject of numerous legal proceedings, the scope and scale of which are unprecedented for a former President of the United States and current candidate for that office. An adverse outcome in one or more of the ongoing legal proceedings in which President Trump is involved could negatively impact TMTG and its Truth Social platform."
"A publicly-traded entity controlled by President Trump has previously been subject to a cease and desist order issued by the Securities and Exchange Commission. "
"A number of companies that were associated with President Trump have filed for bankruptcy. There can be no assurances that TMTG will not also become bankrupt. "
"A number of companies that had license agreements with President Trump have failed. There can be no assurances that TMTG will not also fail."
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And that self-reported list does not include business failures and DoJ charges that are not required to be reported there. See http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/re-like-most-new-yorkers-ive-had-years-to-watch-trump-432618 for a PARTIAL discussion.
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Here is some of detail of Trump's "CEO" ability as head of publicly traded Trump casino and hotel group.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/is-this-the-100-m-tax-lien-439185
"As its stock collapsed, Trump’s firm gave him huge bonuses and paid for his jet."
"Trump was the chairman of Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts in Atlantic City from 1995 to 2009, his only outing as the head of a major public company. During that time, the company lost more than $1 billion ... share prices plunged from a high of $35 to as low as 17 cents. Trump received more than $44 million in salary, bonuses and other compensation during his time at the company ..."
"The company lost money every year of Trump’s leadership, and its share price suffered. A shareholder who bought $100 of DJT shares in 1995 could sell them for about $4 in 2005. The same investment in MGM Resorts would have increased in value to about $600. ..."  
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I previously posted but got no reply to:
"Lastly, some Qs for the MAGA businessmen reading this:  
1. Would you ever enter into a biz deal with Trump? One where you get a contract to provide goods or services and Trump agrees to pay you later? Will you hold your breath until you get paid?
2. Would you ever LEND Trump a large sum of money? Under what conditions? What security?  
3. Have any of you donated money to Trump's legal defense fund? (Full disclosure: I have not.)"
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There is ONE organization w/o a shred of sense that would hire Trump as CEO: publicly traded DJT (Trump Media & Technology Group), a meme stock with a market cap of ~$6B based on income (losses) of ($60M) in the last quarter. (I don't want to make predictions about DJT because there is NOTHING rational about its price which is controlled by MAGAs bidding it up and up.)
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Stock analysts are warning investors that DJT is a meme stock that will likely crash when Trump dumps his shares.
Gov and policy analysts who KNOW Trump and WORKED for Trump are warning Americans that Trump is a peril to the US democracy.

Posted By: durran421
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Posted By: WIMissScarlet
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 ...........when it comes to politics use emotions instead of facts and reality to form an opinion as to what is right or wrong..........
This is EXACTLY how we ended up with the president that we have right now.  
   
 How many people do you know who said "I'll vote for anyone as long as it's not Donald Trump"  
 Meaning,  I'll vote for a complete failure of a leader just BECAUSE it's not Donald Trump.  
   
 Would you hire the manager or CEO of your company that way? I think not.

And you think they would hire Joe Biden???
Not a snowballs chance in hell. No one would hire him. No one.

Actually people should make decisions based on what will be best for them and their family. Regardless of your personal feelings towards Donald Trump, He at least could get the job done, and done well.
You should not select the leader of the nation based on the fact that you were butt hurt over mean tweets. If you make decisions like that, I have a feeling that your life is in disarray.

So "he at least could get the job done and done well", huh? Like what? Tax cuts for the rich and for corporations while increasing the national debt by $8 trillion.  Check. A Muslim travel ban. Check. Separate mitgrant children from their parents at the border and put those children in cages. Check. His disastrous handling of COVID. Check. Criminally trying to overturn the 2020 election and illegally hold on to power. Check. A White House known for chaos, crisis, confusion, corruption, and criminal activity. Check. Check. Check. Check. Check.

Post your proof man!! We'll wait.  
Meanwhile as we wait, another 20k illegals just crossed the open Biden border. CHECK!!✅️

My proof is all well documented history. Post your proof of your original unsubstantiated claim. I won't wait because you've already deflected and now it's time for you to make an ageist slur.

So in other words......... you don't know do you? Exactly what I thought you'd say. Well documented.....where? CNN, MSNBC? MMMHHMMM. Just because you're 80+ years old don't mean you get to make up a bunch of crap and force those around you to just "agree" so you'll shut up.  
Although I get it. I do understand why you're such a front row team Biden fan. Birds of a feather flock together. Makes sense.

It seems you have a serious comprehension problem. You wrote that your favorite criminal defendant/sexual assaulter/business fraudster "could get the job done and done well". I cited a half dozen of his many presidential failures that are well documented historically.  I'm prepared to debate any or all with you, but you remain silent on those issues. Further, not only have you failed to back up your 'get the job done well' opinion, instead you have lashed out in another ageist rant. It's obvious you are a very prejudiced, biased, flawed person no doubt due to being a poorly raised, poorly educated redneck bigot.

Yet you still can't back it up.  
Meanwhile I can back mine up. If you were ALIVE from 2016 to 2020, then no argument. Job done and done well.  
Meanwhile, from you,
MAGA.....repeat.....lie......repeat......MAGA .........rant......repeat.....nap.......
repeat......lie.......repeat....... made up something or other......MAGA..... icky.......ageist ......repeat.....MAGA.

Wow. That's just sad and pathetic. It must be frustrating not to have the mental capacity to be able to articulate anything to corroborate your deep-held delusional beliefs.  We really need to discontinue this exchange because I feel bad about taking advantage of your low hillbilly IQ.

Posted By: durran421
If you were ALIVE from 2016 to 2020, then no argument. Job done and done well.
I'll argue with that.  
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Common lie justification statements by Trump and his MAGA cult: "Everybody knows ...", "I have a rich friend who owns a big yacht and he told me ...", "A famous General -- you know who it is but I'm not going to give his name -- a FAMOUS General told me ...", "People are saying ...", ... , and now, "No argument ..." .
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MAGA Cultists: "It's true because Trump says it's true."

Posted By: impposter
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Posted By: durran421
If you were ALIVE from 2016 to 2020, then no argument. Job done and done well.
I'll argue with that.    
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 Common lie justification statements by Trump and his MAGA cult: "Everybody knows ...", "I have a rich friend who owns a big yacht and he told me ...", "A famous General -- you know who it is but I'm not going to give his name -- a FAMOUS General told me ...", "People are saying ...", ... , and now, "No argument ..." .  
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 MAGA Cultists: "It's true because Trump says it's true."

 

I'll counter your argument.  

Common lie statements by Biden and anti Trump Cult
During the years 2016 - 2020 we didnt see:
Booming economy  
Lowest gas prices since hurricane Katrina  
US oil drilling  
Oil reserves at all time high
Affordable food prices
Construction materials and prices stable
Booming housing market  
Booming construction  
Lowest unemployment  

Anti Trump Cultists "none of that's true because I said so"  

I believe you may need to look in the mirror the next time you preach from your soap box sir.

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Posted By: jazzman121847
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So "he at least could get the job done and done well", huh? Like what? Tax cuts for the rich and for corporations while increasing the national debt by $8 trillion.  Check. A Muslim travel ban. Check. Separate mitgrant children from their parents at the border and put those children in cages. Check. His disastrous handling of COVID. Check. Criminally trying to overturn the 2020 election and illegally hold on to power. Check. A White House known for chaos, crisis, confusion, corruption, and criminal activity. Check. Check. Check. Check. Check.
Let’s go over you PMS-NBC talking points, shall we? The tax breaks only benefited the wealthy? So that personal deduction increase guess you were some how not affected by that? Or did your CPA just suck? Married deductions went way up as did child tax credit. The inheritance Tax threshold went WAY up! That was helpful to many multi generational Farmers who were able to hang onto their family farms.

Muslim travel ban? You mean the extension of the ban that Obama had put in place?

Separating children and putting them in cages? Started under Obama who built the cages and the practice was stopped under Trump.

Disastrous handling of Covid huh? Oh please tell us how you would’ve done it differently? Can’t wait for this bit of Monday morning quarterbacking.

Criminally trying to overturn the 2020 election? You get a “motherfucker please” for that.

Trump delivered us a raging economy, the end of ISIS then got us out of Syria. Kept Putin from invading Ukraine. It took a world wide pandemic a summer of rioting and election rigging to defeat him.

Proof is in the pudding pass performance indicates future performance three great years under Trump and four horrible ones under Biden but you want four more under Biden (for a very short time) till he either slips on a banana peel or gets 25th amendmented out and cackles takes over you’re gonna love that! 😬🤨😲

So much to unpack.... I'll tackle a few but everything I posted is well documented and known facts.  
Yes, the central processing center in McAllen, TX was built during the Obama administration to house an influx of single, adult males. It was the trump administration that cruelly, inhumanly, and systematically separated little children and babies from their parents and essentially kidnapped children while deporting their parents.  
The trump tax cuts primarily benefited the rich and corporations with crumbs for the rest of us and trillions added to the national debt. What did corporations do with their new-found riches? Stock buy backs and huge executive bonuses that's what.  
Trump's handling of COVID was a fiasco and the worst failure of leadership in American history. He mislead the public about the severity of the pandemic, he failed to listen to doctors, scientists, and public heath experts to keep the public safe, and refused to implement a coordinated national plan of action. It was a combination of denial, mismanagement, and magical thinking.  
And yes he did try to stage a self-coup to illegally hold on to power after being soundly defeated in the 2020 election.  He has been criminally indicted by both the federal government and in Fulton county, GA. You can read the indictments that fully describe his alleged involvement in trying to overthrow the government in you had any interest in knowing what he did (but it's clear that you don't).  

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The depreciation schedule yo are allowed to take will often offset any profits made and even create "paper" losses for tax purposes that can be carried forward to future years.  Low-information Libs are usually renters and don't know squat about where they live from the perspective of their landlord, so they go into . . . . "Oh my, he loses money every year."  It just means his allowable depreciation on commercial buildings are offsetting his profits from operations big time.  REAL losses like this are not sustainable without the depreciation offset.  Why not let HIM manage his own business?  Have you noticed that there were no charges brought against him that concerned depreciation?  It's because it's allowed by the IRS.  He broke no laws taking the offsets year by year.  

Who said anything about depreciation? ... Man, woman, person, camera, TV.

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: When your asssets are primarily commercial real estate . . . .
The depreciation schedule yo are allowed to take will often offset any profits made and even create "paper" losses for tax purposes that can be carried forward to future years.  Low-information Libs are usually renters and don't know squat about where they live from the perspective of their landlord, so they go into . . . . "Oh my, he loses money every year."  It just means his allowable depreciation on commercial buildings are offsetting his profits from operations big time.  REAL losses like this are not sustainable without the depreciation offset.  Why not let HIM manage his own business?  Have you noticed that there were no charges brought against him that concerned depreciation?  It's because it's allowed by the IRS.  He broke no laws taking the offsets year by year.  
A fine non sequitur.

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