Phoenix

AZ ladies, A question ?
rogue 40 Reviews 943 reads
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Why don't the ladies of Arizona, use the free photo board or the free advertising board more often?

Many providers don’t read the guidelines, or the boards. I use TER for the amazing features they offer. The PO board is open with suggestions, but not many providers use it. Same with paying for a VIP membership the majority of providers have never paid. If you ladies post on the photo board I promise to hit the like button on everyone’s photos. I think if you guys would do the same it helps encourage people to post.

I’ve lamented the lack of AZ provider participation here many times myself. Especially the photo and ad boards, as you said.  

 
I remember, as I’m sure you do as well, when 30 posts was a SLOW day on the photo board.  Would be nice to get back to that. I used to have a personal rule about only hitting “like” on photo posts if she showed her face. Lately though, I’ve been hitting it on most posts there, hoping to increase participation. But, you know what they say about hope…

 
To the point that QB brought up: I’ve actually toyed with the idea of making a photo board rules PSA post and sticking it on newbie or GD. This because I see lots of photo posts that I know immediately are going to get pulled down. I know when a post is pulled, the reason isn’t always clear to some people. I see posts that end up pulled and then never see that provider post again. I think they get frustrated and leave.  

 
But the rules are right there at the top of the board. Anyone who can’t or won’t read that, as QB noted, isn’t going to read a post about it either.  

 
As for your question, the reasons, I only know what some providers have told me. Some want instant results when trying a new advertising/self promotion venue. They make a couple posts and if it doesn’t get them a surge of inquiries they say “well that didn’t work, moving on”. They don’t understand that most folks here are not going to see one post from a new account and book her. Hang around, join in the conversation here and there, look like a real person and after a while, someone will TOFTT and write your first review. They don’t get that because of today’s instant gratification norms. Also some of them never make a post with a FUCKING LINK so that somebody can FIND them. They’re used to the other socials where you can find each other easily. They won’t put in the effort to get to know this place. They just WON’T.  

 
From talking to ladies, it seems like it’s mostly that they don’t wanna be here tho. Many of them always found this place to be… let’s say unpleasant. They considered it a necessary evil, basically. When that bitchy foster sister showed up in 2018 and shut this mother down, they adapted. Many of them now feel they don’t “need” this place. A lot of people debate that but that doesn’t matter. Point is a lot of women believe they will be fine without this place, so they’re not here.  

 
All that has led to a significant reduction in general female involvement here since the before times. Has that hit AZ harder than any other area? I don’t know. But this place is not what it was before foster sister. Period. I dunno if it ever will be. A lot of the women don’t want to be here. They call it toxic. It’s hard to argue with that if you spend time on the discussion boards.  

 
Also there’s the salacious nature of the reviews here. Some women are fine with DOING those things with a given individual but not so much with having it recounted on the internet.  

 
As to AZ specifically, I’ll add this. I’ve always thought that as big as this metro area is, as many people as there are here; I would expect us to get a lot more touring providers than we do. Talking to the ones who DO travel here, I’ve learned we seem to have a bad overall reputation. Guys here won’t pay deposits. Say what you want about deposits in general, but a decent provider is NOT going to go to a town new to her if she can’t get any deposits there.  

 
The guys here make first contact with a text that only says “what are your rules?” Hey knuckleheads, I’m not gonna talk about this totally illegal thing in detail, in writing, with a total stranger. There’s tons of fantasy bookers and time wasters and hagglers here.  

 
All of that happens everywhere, but I keep hearing that it’s worse here than most everywhere else. I don’t know why. I just know it sucks.

Luved your post!

Speaking from a girl who travels here it's tough to get guys to give verification  

Some one told the guys in AZ bad information  
They believe that verification means LAW  

Please pass the word around that girls need a way to verify you with many ways to do this .. and LAW doesn't care if you want a Facebook or LinkedIn profile...or previous providers reference...

Get word out it's ok to give verification  

Hugs Hazel

Verification means LE? Really? Sounds like a rumor started by a vice cop.  

 
LE throws a wide net, looking for splashy headlines. They’re not worried about being a woman stuck in a room alone with a strange man because that’s not going to happen. They're not worried about not getting paid in full or even about being flaked on. They’re worried about getting you to discuss sex acts in exchange for money. They ain’t picky about the who. They’ll figure out who you are after they arrest you.  

 
I’m not going to get into the debate about which kind of verification is right or appropriate, but zero verification should be a red flag. On either side.

I see not very many people like my photos, but I still post everyday. You only hit the like button on full face photos well you won’t ever like my photos because I blur my face. If you want women to participate like everyone who posts it’s called supporting women.  

You write a lot of I’ve been told by providers. I’m a provider & I am telling you it’s kind to care and hit that like button if you want providers to post photos. Kiss 💋 keep it super simple.

I was born in AZ. I’ve never made lots of $ touring AZ., or living in Arizona. I was targeted when I first arrived in Phoenix by a person who preys on new talent & promises them business if they see him at a discounted rate and they must provide services that are not on their menu. This happens in every city it’s disgusting. 🤮  They are top TER mongers who have tons of reviews. Free advice - providers never date a person based on them implying they will bring you business from a TER review because it’s a scam. Many never will write you that review  they promise you for jeopardizing your business.  

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Based on the context here it seems like you meant to reply to my post. If that’s the case then here is my response. If not, then please disregard. I don’t like assuming things but it really seems like you were talking to me. Correct me if I’m wrong, please.  

 
Keep it simple, but read all the words. If you’d care to read my post again, you will see that I said I USED TO only “like” face photos but I don’t do that anymore, I now hit that button on damn near all of them. actually I  said “most” of them but the truth is there’s VERY few pictures I don’t hit like.  I take your point about this here. My point is I had arrived at the same place already lol. I don’t think the “likes” are increasing participation but I’ll keep it up.  

 
I am kind. Why do you think providers tell me so much? LoL. It’s because they can tell I’m actually listening. Which is, apparently, not the norm for many which is sad.  

 
I am sorry someone preyed upon you, trying to use the review process to extort services.  I’ve never done any such thing and I’d be perfectly fine with the guys that do that having their nuts cut off. I wish that never happened but I know it does.  

 
Anyways, I have become convinced that a lot of the problems providers have seem to be more prevalent in AZ. I don’t know why it’s that way and I can’t change it. I’m not part of any of those problems.  

 
I guess “not very many” likes is relative. I just did a quick scroll through the photos from Thursday and Friday. I believe you’re in second place one day and like two votes away from a tie for second on the other. I don’t think you’re doing too bad. There is ZERO DOUBT in my mind that you already know this but I’m going to say it anyways because maybe some other lady needs to hear it. You are a sexy woman. Please don’t look to TER for proof of that. Way too many guys here will rub one aaaalll the way out to a photo and never hit like. You know you look good! Your clients know it. Gotta focus on that. Again, I know you already know all that.

It does seem to be a phenomenon amongst the gentleman here in Arizona… The lack of interesting first contact… On top of the absolute refusal to pay deposits… The boys here. Just need to catch up with the times. Our scales are becoming more particular about who we see, and when we see them.  And in all the years I have been on this board… It is never been provider, friendly.  Unfortunately, it just seems to get less provider friendly as time goes on. TER has become the meat market of the provider world that back page used to be.  

Why would anybody contact You and not try to seem interesting? That’s beyond me. You’re an AZ Allstar. As far as any rudeness that occurs: You deserve better, i think.

I just left AZ & not 1 inquiry actually took the time to read my website.  
Are you available? No hello 👋  
Everyone who emailed me assumed I am sitting in a hotel waiting for a date. When I ask them to respectfully take the time to read the website I created its crickets. I have met real gentlemen in AZ who plan ahead, and book with a deposit, but it’s definitely extremely difficult.

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