Newbie - FAQ

Shunning the new kid...
joeblogg 2462 reads
posted
1 / 10

When I go to vegas in the near future, I'd like to try out a GFE, and have emailed a few that I really think are cute and would like to try, but so far none have responded...  From looking around here it seems like some providers want voucher/references, but does that mean from other providers?  I don't have to visit one here first do I?  Are references & vouchers in place just to make sure you're not crazy or 5-0?  If they responded I'd be happy to give them my work info or whatever...

dreamweaver7 2166 reads
posted
2 / 10

I can't really speculate why you did not get a reply as there can be many reasons, e.g. did the message ask explicit sexual content questions?  On the other hand you may just be dealing with ladies who are either busy or not interested.  There really could be a lot of reasons.  However the gist of your post surrounds the verification process.  A few comments:

> The verification or screening process allows the provider to establish a comfort level that you are not law enforcement, that you are who you say you are and that you are not a threat of any type to the lady.  In a word it is all about her safety and this allows her to reach a comfort level of sorts.
> Each lady has her own method and style of screening.  The two most typical aspects of screening involve references and sharing work place information.  In the case of references the lady is looking for one or two providers that would vouch for being in your company.  In this circumstance the new provider would probably look to learn something about the referring lady (e.g. her web site or her ad) to see if they offer simialr services and seek similar clients.  Then she will likely solicit an email message from the previous provider indicating that she met you and that all was AOK.  The work information usually takes the form of sharing where you work and what you do.  The lady may ask for a non-direct number (e.g. switchboard, secretary, security desk) that she can call to ask for you.  Her motive is simply to gain an indication that you are who you said you were and this will again increase her comfort level relative to her safety.              
>  Some ladies want references and work info, others just want one specifically (i.e. either references or work) and some will accept either or.  The fact that you seem willing to share work information is a big plus as this is one area that often worries many guys. However you will find that the screening process can vary significantly from lady to lady.  
> There are also verfication services that you can subscribe to that can assist (e.g. RoomService2000 (RS2K) or DateCheck).  Some proivders use them and some don't.  They tend to be more popular in specific geograpihic locations.  
>  Do your homework to insure that you are trying to seal a deal with a well reviewed lady with a solid and dependable reputation.  If you do then you can feel comfortable sharing personal information with her.  She wants it for her safety and once you have proven yourself to be an upstanding gent, she will have no further use for your information.
>  Don't fret and worry about non-replies.  Try once again and if still no reply, move on to another lady.  If you are willing to work with her in the screening process and your introductory message to her is friendly with no explicit detail questions, you will find many dependable providers who will be more than willing to meet you for a date.

Good Luck..              

 



-- Modified on 11/3/2006 10:13:36 AM

little phil 37 Reviews 2675 reads
posted
3 / 10

Since you're a newbie that's figured out how to use an alias, it's tough to figure out your taste.  If I knew that, I could recommend someone in LV that would not only fit the bill, but would be more likely to respond.  OR, I could give you tips on getting a response from the ladies you've contacted.

You see, my newbie friend, sometimes it's better to not hide.  Feel free to PM me, and I'll try to help.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 2490 reads
posted
4 / 10

Take the advice of all three of the above posted messages.

banpei1 1880 reads
posted
5 / 10

Hey everyone, thanx for responding!  I'm trying to stay positive about this, and not as "getting rejected for a date".  I didn't say anything illegal in the emails, pretty much just told them that I was a new kid, was interested in meeting them (one or the other, haven't decided) when I come to vegas within the next few months, and a short blurb about myself.  I sent them from a gmail account, would that have made a difference?  Should I have given my work number right off the bat?

dreamweaver7 2667 reads
posted
6 / 10

I doubt the gmail issue matters.  Most providers steer away from exchanging explicit content in emails so your mail service will likely be inconsequential to them.

For me I would never surrender specific work information in a blind introductory email message to a provider.  General info is fine, i.e. 'I'm a blank from blank'.  I would wait until you at least completed one 360-exchange...you saying 'hi' and expressing interest and she replying and informing you of the next steps which may mean following guidelines on her web site if she has one.  

As I first said the reason for no reply could be infinite.  The fact that you confided that you were new and were interested in a date a few months away may be a factor.  Nothing wrong with divulging either of these facts but understand that some providers may view a newbie as someone who is apt to change plans. Also if your message gave any indication that you are still fishing then again the lack of dedicated interest in them may be a reason for no reply.  Many providers, and Vegas is a good example of this, fall within one or the other end of the booking spectrum. Some well known, high demand ladies have to be booked well in advance.  In fact some of these ladies may require advance deposits. Others conduct their biz in 24 hour or less windows.  If by chance your ladies fall in the latter category then by all means you may not hear from them becuase 2 or 3 months is forever away  to them.      

You don't indicate if either has a web site and/or the contents of their ads in Eros or CityVibe or how you spotted them.  Sometimes these items contain explicit instructions on how to make contact.   Other times they simply say to email which of course you did.  But if there is a web site then make sure you read it to learn how she wants clients to proceed.  Also if the ad or site has a number then you can call.  Other than that I suggest that you send another message.  Introduce yourself (the short blurb is fine) and tell the dates of your visit and ask how and when it would be best to make contact for a rendezvous.  I've done this and titled the message 'Is it too early to ask?' and had good reply rates.  I would also suggest visting the Vegas discussion board of this site.  You can search for message content about your ladies (perhaps they post on that board) and/or ask for information or advice about the best way to proceed. Local knowlwdge is invaluable and you'll have a better chance of getting it there.    

Time is on your side.   Stay positive and enjoy the hunt.  It adds to the overall enjoyment of the whole experience.  Good luck...

banpei1 2125 reads
posted
7 / 10

Hmmm...I think perhaps I'll get the date when I go there set in stone, then I'll fill out a form that she has on her site.  I was hesitant to do that in the first place b/c I didn't know the exact date...

SinsOfTheFlesh See my TER Reviews 1836 reads
posted
8 / 10

I noted something you said in this post that if you also said in your e-mail might be why you did not get a response.

If the time frame you indicated in your e-mail as "within the next few months" you can be assured this is probably why you didn't get a response. The time frame is much too vague, and much too far away. I can speak only for myself of course, but I get e-mails like this quite frequently, and have learned not to invest much time or energy until you have a clearer idea of when exactly you want to see me.

My suggestion is to wait until you know exactly when you will be in Vegas, and try these two ladies again, this time being specific about what days you will be there. Something along the lines of "I will be visiting your city from November 12-16, and would like to arrange a meeting while I am there."

This gives her a concrete timeframe she can work from when it comes to planning her schedule. I strongly suspect a second attempt will be more successful if you have a specific timeframe noted.

Not4lng 58 Reviews 2127 reads
posted
9 / 10

1) DON'T mention specific sexual acts/requests
  or donation info in your email
2) DON'T give out any personal information that
  isn't specifically requested and, if it is,
  think carefully about whether you want her to
  have that piece of info.
3) DO give the provider a specific time frame
  in which you would like to see her.

midagedmm 1 Reviews 1684 reads
posted
10 / 10

These replies seem to all apply to providers who you have advance contacts with.  How does it work for a NOOB at places like AMP's?  It is a walk-in situation - certainly they are not going to check references.
And if they ask for work information, what about those of us who are self-employed, or those who are retired?  No work info to give.
So what is a NOOB to do!

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